Abortion debate comes to Capitol

Abortion debate comes to Capitol

There are 83 comments on the www.dglobe.com story from Jan 22, 2009, titled Abortion debate comes to Capitol. In it, www.dglobe.com reports that:

ABORTION ANNIVERSARY: Both abortion opponents and supporters of abortion rights talked about their priorities on the anniversary of the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision that made the procedure legal.

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Starlina

United States

#1 Jan 22, 2009
NO to abortion!!

Since: Jan 09

knox

#2 Jan 22, 2009
I totally agree:)
Starlina

San Francisco, CA

#3 Jan 22, 2009
Abortion is murder!!

Im retired

Since: Dec 08

Lousiville

#4 Jan 22, 2009
Abortion sucks no matter what party you give your vote too. Its too bad they cant pass laws that encourage personal responsibility.
Init

Rockville, MD

#5 Jan 22, 2009
Oh, knock it off, you moronic monkeys. Abortion isn't going away, and you're looking sillier than ever.

Since: Jan 09

knox

#6 Jan 22, 2009
Im retired wrote:
Abortion sucks no matter what party you give your vote too. Its too bad they cant pass laws that encourage personal responsibility.
You know there has always been something that i have always wondered about.
Lets say a woman 4 months pregnant is driving on her way to an abortion clinic,on here way she is hit by a drunk driver and her and the unborn baby are killed.
Did you know that the drunk driver could get arrested and charged with vehicular manslaughter not only for killing the woman,but also the unborn baby.

Does this make any sense to anyone?
olio

Rockville, MD

#7 Jan 22, 2009
blondie_28 wrote:
<quoted text>You know there has always been something that i have always wondered about.
Lets say a woman 4 months pregnant is driving on her way to an abortion clinic,on here way she is hit by a drunk driver and her and the unborn baby are killed.
Did you know that the drunk driver could get arrested and charged with vehicular manslaughter not only for killing the woman,but also the unborn baby.
Does this make any sense to anyone?
Since your little fantasy is not even close to reality in all states, what doesn't make any sense is you, pretending to have an actual thought. It's just a brain fart, dear. Try Beano.
olio

Rockville, MD

#8 Jan 22, 2009
Oh, and by the way, it's "she and the fetus", not "her", simpleton. But then, you're probably so dumb that you say, "Her and I went to the store."

Not exactly the sort of educated person I would want making any decisions for me.

Since: Jan 09

knox

#9 Jan 22, 2009
olio wrote:
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Since your little fantasy is not even close to reality in all states, what doesn't make any sense is you, pretending to have an actual thought. It's just a brain fart, dear. Try Beano.
well considering no,i think it is you that actually needs a brain...lol
Thing is is that if the fetus is considered viable meaning can survive outside the fetus,then charges can be made.But who are we to say when a fetus can survive,here is an actual video of a baby surviving at 19 weeks.

Oh and youre proof is below.

A South Florida man involved in a DUI-related crash last summer is now charged with vehicular homicide in the death of a woman's unborn child.

William Altier

William Altier, 24, of Boca Raton is reportedly the first person in Palm Beach County to face a new state law making it a criminal offense to kill a "viable fetus" – that is to say, a child who can survive outside the womb – in a reckless driving crash.

Arrest records state Altier had a blood-alcohol level of .10, surpassing the legal intoxication threshold of .08, as he drove his Porsche 911 through city streets the night of Aug. 13.

Witness Theresa Utterback told police Altier was "cutting people off with no safe distance," as he was speeding and changing lanes in rainy conditions. "He really scared me in his driving."

Altier's car smashed into a Nissan driven by 23-year-old Marie Fabiano, who was nearly eight months pregnant at the time. Fabiano's mother, Teresa, was killed in the crash, and Marie was rushed to a local hospital where some eight hours later she gave birth to a stillborn child named Valente Rose.

Since: Jan 09

knox

#10 Jan 22, 2009
olio wrote:
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Since your little fantasy is not even close to reality in all states, what doesn't make any sense is you, pretending to have an actual thought. It's just a brain fart, dear. Try Beano.
Who the hell said it was in all states.
Oh and usually people that correct youre spelling and grammar are doing so because they actually have nothing else to say or nothing interesting to say.
And as i see in youre case it is both.
olio

Rockville, MD

#11 Jan 22, 2009
blondie_28 wrote:
<quoted text>well considering no,i think it is you that actually needs a brain...lol
Thing is is that if the fetus is considered viable meaning can survive outside the fetus,then charges can be made.But who are we to say when a fetus can survive,here is an actual video of a baby surviving at 19 weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =5q1YVFHIA8EXX
Oh and youre proof is below.
A South Florida man involved in a DUI-related crash last summer is now charged with vehicular homicide in the death of a woman's unborn child.
William Altier
William Altier, 24, of Boca Raton is reportedly the first person in Palm Beach County to face a new state law making it a criminal offense to kill a "viable fetus" – that is to say, a child who can survive outside the womb – in a reckless driving crash.
Arrest records state Altier had a blood-alcohol level of .10, surpassing the legal intoxication threshold of .08, as he drove his Porsche 911 through city streets the night of Aug. 13.
Witness Theresa Utterback told police Altier was "cutting people off with no safe distance," as he was speeding and changing lanes in rainy conditions. "He really scared me in his driving."
Altier's car smashed into a Nissan driven by 23-year-old Marie Fabiano, who was nearly eight months pregnant at the time. Fabiano's mother, Teresa, was killed in the crash, and Marie was rushed to a local hospital where some eight hours later she gave birth to a stillborn child named Valente Rose.
Moron, do you not understand the phrase "some states"? And do you really think "YouTube" is proof of something, idiot? Rub those two brain cells together, dear.
olio

Rockville, MD

#12 Jan 22, 2009
"A fetus can survive outside the fetus"? Yeah, I'm surely going to listen to some nutjob who thinks she actually makes sense when writing nonsense.

Since when is an 8-month-old fetus comparable to one that's at 19 weeks, dear? Did you fail math class as well as English? "Youre proof"? Puhleeze. You're a joke.

“Mommy I ate to much turkey!!!!”

Since: May 07

Lake City MI

#14 Jan 22, 2009
blondie_28 wrote:
<quoted text>well considering no,i think it is you that actually needs a brain...lol
Thing is is that if the fetus is considered viable meaning can survive outside the fetus,then charges can be made.But who are we to say when a fetus can survive,here is an actual video of a baby surviving at 19 weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =5q1YVFHIA8EXX
Oh and youre proof is below.
A South Florida man involved in a DUI-related crash last summer is now charged with vehicular homicide in the death of a woman's unborn child.
William Altier
William Altier, 24, of Boca Raton is reportedly the first person in Palm Beach County to face a new state law making it a criminal offense to kill a "viable fetus" – that is to say, a child who can survive outside the womb – in a reckless driving crash.
Arrest records state Altier had a blood-alcohol level of .10, surpassing the legal intoxication threshold of .08, as he drove his Porsche 911 through city streets the night of Aug. 13.
Witness Theresa Utterback told police Altier was "cutting people off with no safe distance," as he was speeding and changing lanes in rainy conditions. "He really scared me in his driving."
Altier's car smashed into a Nissan driven by 23-year-old Marie Fabiano, who was nearly eight months pregnant at the time. Fabiano's mother, Teresa, was killed in the crash, and Marie was rushed to a local hospital where some eight hours later she gave birth to a stillborn child named Valente Rose.
We have that here to. If you kill a pregnant woman you are charged with two murders.

“Mommy I ate to much turkey!!!!”

Since: May 07

Lake City MI

#15 Jan 22, 2009
olio wrote:
"A fetus can survive outside the fetus"? Yeah, I'm surely going to listen to some nutjob who thinks she actually makes sense when writing nonsense.
Since when is an 8-month-old fetus comparable to one that's at 19 weeks, dear? Did you fail math class as well as English? "Youre proof"? Puhleeze. You're a joke.
Any baby that can survive outside the womb is equal to any baby. It doesn't matter if it was born at 19 weeks 28 weeks or 40 weeks. If it is alive it deserves a chance. Who are you to say oh well it is only 19 weeks don't bother to save it or count it when her murderer is on trail.
zzzzz

Rockville, MD

#16 Jan 22, 2009
momof3soon2b4 wrote:
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Any baby that can survive outside the womb is equal to any baby. It doesn't matter if it was born at 19 weeks 28 weeks or 40 weeks. If it is alive it deserves a chance. Who are you to say oh well it is only 19 weeks don't bother to save it or count it when her murderer is on trail.
It's not 19 weeks. The fetuses (NOT a baby) were 22 and 23 weeks. And not all states have fetal homicide laws. What part of that sentence escapes you?
lmnop

Rockville, MD

#17 Jan 22, 2009
blondie_28 wrote:
<quoted text>You know there has always been something that i have always wondered about.
Lets say a woman 4 months pregnant is driving on her way to an abortion clinic,on here way she is hit by a drunk driver and her and the unborn baby are killed.
Did you know that the drunk driver could get arrested and charged with vehicular manslaughter not only for killing the woman,but also the unborn baby.
Does this make any sense to anyone?
You don't make any sense, that's for sure. No fetus that is 16 weeks old is viable. The minimum age of viability is older--I believe it's closer to 23 weeks. Furthermore, unless the state has laws regarding fetal homicide, the driver would not be prosecuted for such a crime.

“Mommy I ate to much turkey!!!!”

Since: May 07

Lake City MI

#18 Jan 22, 2009
zzzzz wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not 19 weeks. The fetuses (NOT a baby) were 22 and 23 weeks. And not all states have fetal homicide laws. What part of that sentence escapes you?
I was replying to this statement by olio,

Since when is an 8-month-old fetus comparable to one that's at 19 weeks, dear? Did you fail math class as well as English? "Youre proof"? Puhleeze. You're a joke.

That is where I got the 19 week old baby so next time please see who and what I'm replying to don't just ASSume.

Since: Jan 09

knox

#19 Jan 22, 2009
momof3soon2b4 wrote:
<quoted text>
Any baby that can survive outside the womb is equal to any baby. It doesn't matter if it was born at 19 weeks 28 weeks or 40 weeks. If it is alive it deserves a chance. Who are you to say oh well it is only 19 weeks don't bother to save it or count it when her murderer is on trail.
Yes i totally agree,and Now Obama is for partial birth abortion,that means babies can be aborted all the way up to six months.Babies have over a 50% chance of surviving at 6 months.
Here is a description of a baby that age.
Week 24-The fetus can now inhale, exhale and even cry. Eyes have completely formed, and the tongue has developed taste buds. Under intensive medical care the fetus has a over a 50% chance of surviving outside the womb.
Fine hair grows on eyebrows and head
Eyelash fringe appears
Weight is about 1lb 6 oz
Height is about 9 inches
Babies can be born at this age and survive

“Mommy I ate to much turkey!!!!”

Since: May 07

Lake City MI

#20 Jan 22, 2009
zzzzz wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not 19 weeks. The fetuses (NOT a baby) were 22 and 23 weeks. And not all states have fetal homicide laws. What part of that sentence escapes you?
And yes I know not all states have this law but the one in question does. Keep up dear you trailing behind.
Matthew

Hanover Park, IL

#21 Jan 22, 2009
Amid protests, Obama backs 'right to choose' on Roe anniversary

WASHINGTON (CNN)-- President Obama affirmed his support for a woman's "right to choose" on Thursday, the 36th anniversary of the Supreme Court decision that led to the legalization of abortion, as thousands of anti-abortion activists descended on the National Mall to challenge his position.

Roe v. Wade "not only protects women's health and reproductive freedom, but stands for a broader principle: that government should not intrude on our most private family matters," Obama said in a statement.

The landmark 1973 decision held that a woman's right to abortion was protected by the right to privacy under the Constitution's 14th Amendment, voiding most state laws against abortion at the time.

Nellie Gray, who helped organize the anti-abortion March for Life on the Mall, invited Obama to speak at the rally.

"America needs your strong leadership as president of all the people to stop the intentional killing of an estimated 3,000 pre-born boys and girls each day and the brutalizing of mind, heart and body of pregnant mothers."

Kim Gandy, president of the National Organization for Women, said she believes that while abortion should remain an option, increasing the availability and affordability of birth control and reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies is the real solution.

"I think what everyone ought to be interested in doing, whether they are or not, is reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies," Gandy told CNN. "Because if we reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies, it will by definition reduce the number of abortions and reduce a lot of the pain and despair that has befallen women in these economic times, who cannot afford to enlarge their families when they don't have a job and they don't have a way to put food on the table for the kids that they have now.

"If we could all work together to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies, it would dramatically change the debate on this issue."

Obama has so far not struck down rules reinstated by the Bush administration eight years ago, prohibiting U.S. money from funding international family planning groups that promote abortion or provide information, counseling or referrals about abortion services.

The "Mexico City policy" was initially put in place by President Ronald Reagan and suspended during Bill Clinton's presidency. Its opponents refer to it as the "global gag order."

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