Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Are there any cases where it was an issue regarding marriage?
I'll give you the Frankie Rizzo answer: show me proof of the thing we're arguing over the existence of.

You may now feel confused.

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The people of California voted this down. I voted for gay marriage but I have since changed my mind on it. Should gays be allowed to get married? Yes. But marriage isn't a right and none of the government's business to be in. People wanted it put to a vote and they lost, they should of moved on.
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JoshCham wrote:
The people of California voted this down. I voted for gay marriage but I have since changed my mind on it. Should gays be allowed to get married? Yes. But marriage isn't a right and none of the government's business to be in. People wanted it put to a vote and they lost, they should of moved on.
Historically, no rights activist movements have ever put the decision over whether to extend the rights to a general ballot. If this had been the case, we might still have slavery in effect today.
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That's one of the most radical hypotheticals I've ever heard, and there's no logic to it. Thusly, I'm not even going to bother responding to it.
If you desire a response, I suggest you express your point in a much more comprehensible way.
Giving up already Fruitcake?

Fact is prop 8 says marriage is "a man and a woman", That means exactly what it says, not 2 men and a woman, not two women, not two men. What don't you understand about that? It bans polygamy and same sex marriage EQUALLY.

You are not any more a victim of prop 8 than polyamorists are.
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Historically, no rights activist movements have ever put the decision over whether to extend the rights to a general ballot. If this had been the case, we might still have slavery in effect today.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner.

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Hey Frank come on tell us all about jumping out of a Chopper in Nam.
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I'll give you the Frankie Rizzo answer: show me proof of the thing we're arguing over the existence of.
You may now feel confused.
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner.
But we aren't a democracy. We're a democratically representative republic.
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Giving up already Fruitcake?
Fact is prop 8 says marriage is "a man and a woman", That means exactly what it says, not 2 men and a woman, not two women, not two men. What don't you understand about that? It bans polygamy and same sex marriage EQUALLY.
You are not any more a victim of prop 8 than polyamorists are.
I am not a victim of prop 8 because I am not gay.

You assume too much.

Because a loophole in prop 8 adds (in some miniscule, insignificant way) to the crapload of other laws denying you the right to poly marriage, you assume that prop 8 was equally addressing poly marriage alongside gay marriage.

Nowhere in the ballot statement did it mention poly marriage.

You're losing.

Sorry.

Must suck.
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You're absolutely insane.
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JoshCham wrote:
The people of California voted this down. I voted for gay marriage but I have since changed my mind on it. Should gays be allowed to get married? Yes. But marriage isn't a right and none of the government's business to be in. People wanted it put to a vote and they lost, they should of moved on.
People should get equal rights, even when that's not popular with the knuckle dragging mob. People shouldn't stop going after equal rights because they lose one battle.
Marriage is a right.(Loving v VA)

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<quoted text>Why its still two people.
It still effects those laws, and to pretend it doesn't is not helping your case.
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<quoted text>Hey Frank come on tell us all about jumping out of a Chopper in Nam.
I was scared and pumped on adrenaline. I jumped too soon. I misjudged how high we were. Maybe 12 feet. It hurt for a while and a little ever since but nothing debilitating until recently. Now I cannot walk and the docs aren't giving me a good prognosis. I had another surgery yesterday. Laposcopic surgery. Modern medicine is a blessing.

My age and the old injury combined, and here I am.

You're a real jerk and a creep, but I wouldn't wish it on you or anyone, Well maybe my ex wife...naaah. No one. Not even you or her.
Not being able to stand or walk is a life changing challenge. I'm up for it. I follow docs orders religiously.
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That's not a change in laws, just a change in who the laws apply to. You're really quick to make people out as idiotic, aren't you?
Also, why wouldn't we want to extend those things?
You should look up the definition of CHANGE. You just said nothing changing but.... which means it changed.

And I am not that quick at calling people idiots, I have been here quite some time as have the others, I guess the fact that you just arrived to the party has confused you.

BTW, none of the items I mentioned that require changes in the law are "rights".
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People should get equal rights, even when that's not popular with the knuckle dragging mob. People shouldn't stop going after equal rights because they lose one battle.
Marriage is a right.(Loving v VA)
Tell Big D. He thinks polygamists should give up. Without a fight.
Says it's futile.
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Have you ever made any kind of actual argument in this forum? Seems all you do is call people names.
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I was scared and pumped on adrenaline. I jumped too soon. I misjudged how high we were. Maybe 12 feet. It hurt for a while and a little ever since but nothing debilitating until recently. Now I cannot walk and the docs aren't giving me a good prognosis. I had another surgery yesterday. Laposcopic surgery. Modern medicine is a blessing.
My age and the old injury combined, and here I am.
You're a real jerk and a creep, but I wouldn't wish it on you or anyone, Well maybe my ex wife...naaah. No one. Not even you or her.
Not being able to stand or walk is a life changing challenge. I'm up for it. I follow docs orders religiously.
Well crap, I almost want to apologize for being heavy on you now.

I mean, this is a debate forum, but my god...woah. I was not aware of this, man.
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Edgar wrote:
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I am not a victim of prop 8 because I am not gay.
You assume too much.
Because a loophole in prop 8 adds (in some miniscule, insignificant way) to the crapload of other laws denying you the right to poly marriage, you assume that prop 8 was equally addressing poly marriage alongside gay marriage.
Nowhere in the ballot statement did it mention poly marriage.
You're losing.
Sorry.
Must suck.
Prop 8 says marriage is a man and a woman ONLY. Not 2 men and a woman. Not 2 men, not 2 women. It EFFECTIVELY and EQUALLY bans polygamy as well as SSM.

Look Jerky. The bottom line is I support marriage equality and you do not.

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