Let me clarify what I meant. In the example of the railroads, it started out private, but soon the government was involved because of course land was needed for the railways, but government also realized how important railroads would be for transportation of mail, military, etc. But there was also a need for the citizens; same with the car, electricity. There was a want and a need, especially from the public. Everyone was getting a benefit from these new inventions. So when I say aren’t we putting the cart before the horse, I mean that what the government is doing now is something it has never done. It is guaranteeing loans and subsidizing alternative energy which is something that the public isn’t demanding and really doesn’t want and the alternative energy we are investing in has not been proven to be successful in replacing what we have. Like I said, it feels like we have been set up to fail. If no one wants to buy these products, then we are just wasting money.<quoted text>
Take the development of the West:
Although few Americans think about this, much of the Western United States as we know it today is the creation of various federal programs. It has been that way from the very beginning, starting with government-sponsored explorations of the West in the early and mid-19th century. It continued with the federal government providing the money and troops for the depressingly efficient program of “Indian removal.” The government also sold public land to settlers for low prices and sometimes even gave it away. The RAILROADS, which spurred so much growth in the West, would not have been built without massive SUBSIDIES from the federal government. And today, much of the farming in many Western areas is made possible by federal water projects, substantial parts of the ranching are subsidized by the artificially low grazing fees on federal property, and much of the mining is made more profitable by dirt cheap access to federal land. Cities like Los Angeles and Las Vegas would dry up and blow away without the federally funded dam and canal projects that provide water to those arid regions. So it is ironic that while anti-big government sentiment is very strong in parts of this region, the West literally would not and could not exist as it does today without the sustained help of the federal government.
Get over it. The government has played a major role in everything from large water projects to space exploration. Space exploration itself led to many innovative inventions that has spurred the economy in many sectors. I could go on for hours. Government is good. It is our friend. What would we do withour it?
So what to do? You have to get the public to buy into the alternative energy plan and you do that through guilt and fear. You all do that every day on this thread. You post every article you can find that shows what will happen if we don’t do anything. I’m sure gcaveman has tons of stuff on his flash drive that will scare the crap out of everyone. The media does it every day, and in fact, just this week 2 articles came out that were highly touted by the media: 1) that 50 billion tons of methane will be released from the Arctic in the next 2 decades and 2)global warming will lead to increased barroom brawls, rapes, civil wars, and international disputes.
Just some advice, the public, I’m sure would love cheap alternative energy, nobody is against that. We would like a nice transition from fossil fuels to something that is dependable and will work for a nation of 300 million. But instead the scare tactics are getting more and more outrageous and the public is totally going to tune all this out while rolling their eyes. I do believe AGW science is in the midst of “jumping the shark.”