Hells angels harming and murdering wo...
JerseyGirl

East Norwich, NY

#22 Jan 26, 2009
Cindy...Please don't speak for everyone when you state "we all know", because you don't have a clue. Are you sure you are in the 21st century??
While I realize the crimes in the beginning of the forum are of this century, they do not address Hells Angels "history". The news reports relate to charges involving individuals who are or were alleged members of the Hells Angels. If you bothered to read them, charges were dropped regarding the assault in one because the evidence could not be linked to the defendant or his DNA. Another who was previously charged and released was gunned down by unknown bikers reinforcing my comment that bikers Hells Angels or other do not advocate or condone rape, pedophilia or child porn. Sonny became imfamous as a result of his status, influence, tenure in the Hells Angels during his "hay day" & famous as a result of his biography and publication of his memoirs. Chuck Zito became a household name because of his role in "Oz" - The HBO series. Have they really "dropped the club like a bad case of diarrhea"? Do you know this for a fact?
Gloria...You say Hells Angels have a "scummmmmbag image", ok, but wouldn't you use that adjective to describe all of the biker "gangs"? I bet you would. You say the club does not make any money on Hells Angels merchandise except from club members and "the men that hells angels date"- In two of the crimes listed in the beginning of this forum, the defendants are stockbrokers or traders, and one is described as extremely talented with finances- what the hell are you talking about?? And, Earth to Gloria... Within the past year two Pagans were sentenced for charges stemming from an incident in NJ where they shot and killed a patron in a bar who didn't even own a motorcycle or belong to any club, because he was wearing a Hells Angels T-shirt (purchased at a swap meet), again, what are you talking about? You say any other organization would not stand behind members who committed these types of crimes yet the Catholic Church did just that for years by hiding Priests accused of crimes against young boys, moving them from parish to parish when accusations arose, rather than excommunicating or turning them in.
The point I was trying to make was to sick boy Hells Angel Fan. Hells Angels are not a bunch of Child molesting, woman raping, child porn collectors. They historically are guilty of violent crimes such as assault, murder, armed robbery, etc., but not necessarily focused on women or children, but on opportunity and potential gain. Biker gangs,not just Hells Angels, are most often arrested, charged and convicted of crimes involving drugs, the manufacturing and distribution of meth, crimes involving weapons, and conspiracy charges lumped under the RICO Act.
I was responding to Hells Angel Fan's request to support Hells Angel's involvement with child porn because of Burgess's conviction, but I couldn't help respond to the ill-informed comments by the women who missed my point and make statements as if they were facts.
PS- Bob, you could go to 3rd St., NYC clubhouse and inquire as to the NJ local.
Personally, I wish they'd all leave the state. Much like the Mob, numbers have dropped significantly but the existance of rival clubs despite size, does and will cause problems for bikers and harrassment from The Man. I don't and never did understand why any man would join any 1%'r club. The fact that the club has so much involvement in your life, love and money/possessions so that they own what you own and can and will take it if you deviate from club rules is not something I would want. I work way too hard to share.
Cindy

Cresskill, NJ

#23 Jan 26, 2009
I agree the hells angels do have the largest percent out of any club I ever heard of for harming and murdering women and children.All of those in the 9 stories were convicted of some crimes. I bet a lot of hells angels scare kids and women into not pressing rape and molestation charges. I read alot of other stories about women and children being harmed and murdered by hells angels that are not listed. I will try to find the time to add them on to this list of filthy disgusting hells angels
Candy

Cresskill, NJ

#24 Jan 26, 2009
I cannot believe this man that calls him self Jersey girl. No women would make up lies like Jersey girl to defend a gang of scumm hells angels. The funny part is this man that calls himself Jersey girl is probably a child pornography collecting hells angel pretending to be a non interested 3rd party , Yet he wrote volumes trying to defend the hells angels and changing facts . Read the stories again Jersey girl LOL hells angel fruit .
Ricky

Cresskill, NJ

#25 Jan 26, 2009
Here the hells angels go comparing them selves to priests. I am sick and tired of that argument. I have read every where there are only about 200 and some free hells angels left in the USA the rest are in jail dead or quit. No one wants anything to do with this gang of women and children harming trash anymore. People like this man that calls himself Jersey girl use false statistics to pretend the hells angels are larger then they are.The hells angels are on their way out. I have never read about a motorcycle club with as many women and children victims as the hells angels.
Steve 1percent

Cresskill, NJ

#26 Jan 26, 2009
Jersey angel man read the comments about the Pagan who killed the T shirt wearing hells angel. The Pagan only defended his own life the man that got shot came out of the bar after the Pagan was leaving. The Pagan shot in self defense. If the man did not come out and go after the Pagan as he was leaving he would not have been shot. Everyone says the dead guy was a NJ hells angel and was not allowed to wear color because people collect hells angel colors after they beat up hells angels.It appears the hells angels did not own up to their dead angel the hells angels and the dead guys friend pretended the dead man was a moron that did not know what a hells angel or Pagan was. LOL . The dead man has been going to biker parties for decades before his death but he did not know what a hells angel or Pagan was LOL . Many people said the dead man use to beat his women friends just like a hells angel because hells angels prefer men as company over women. I think the world is a better place every time a hells angel dies.
Wiki states

AOL

#27 Jan 28, 2009
The full requirements to become a Hells Angel are the following: candidates must have a valid driver's license, have a working Harley Davidson motorcycle and cannot be a child molester or have applied to become a police officer or prison guard.

The HAMC is a group of mtorcycle enthusiasts who organize social events such as fundraisers, road trips, parties and motorcycle rallies.

http://hpn.asu.edu/archives/2003-July/007451....

http://enews.ttnet.net/cgi-bin/enews.cgi...

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/sep/04/u...
Steve 1percent

Cresskill, NJ

#28 Jan 28, 2009
The hells angels should just pay representations to all the women and children their gang has harmed and murdered. I guess that would not make for a good publicity. I guess the hells angels looking for publicity from sponsoring events shows that they will use any scam to gain support and to help cover up all the innocent women and children victims of their gang. I read in a hells angels porn bust hundreds maybe thousands of pictures of children were uncovered as events . With all those child victims from just one hells angels bust I think the hells angels owe much more then the meager donations they give.
Steve 1percent

Cresskill, NJ

#30 Jan 28, 2009
Only a scumbag Hells angel or a man that dates hells angels would think some stupid charity run would make up for any of the Horrid crimes the hells angels commit against the most innocent of Victims Children.
The Star Ledger

AOL

#31 Jan 28, 2009
Pagan gang member gets 28 years in killing

by Nyier Abdou/The Star-Ledger
Monday December 03, 2007

A member of the Pagans motorcycle gang was sentenced this morning to 28 years in prison for the 2005 murder of a Hillsborough man who was wearing a t-shirt supporting the rival Hell's Angels motorcycle gang.

As part of a plea deal with the state, William Martin, 35, of North Plainfield, pleaded guilty to fatally shooting John Grover, 40, of Hillsborough, at Gatto's Sports bar in Manville. Grover was not a member of any motorcycle gang, family members said.

Martin's co-defendant, Peter Ciarletta, 30, of Warren, was due to be sentenced on weapons charges later today, but the matter was delayed because his attorney is tied up in a federal case in Philadelphia.

Martin, who was facing a life sentence without the possibility of parole for the April 2005 murder, stopped his trial in September after he and Ciarletta reached seperate deals with the state.

Martin apologized to the victim's family in the courtroom, saying he had not gone to the bar to kill Grover.

"You may not accept these words, but they are from the heart," Martin told Grover's family, his hands shackled in front of him. "I wish I could take back that tragic day."

But Grover's sister, Carol Collins, speaking on behalf of the family, said their lives were irrevocably harmed. She said the family believed Grover's father's death was due, in part, to a "broken heart."

"Who are you to play god and take a life?" Collins told Martin, several framed pictures of Grover placed on the table in front of her. "You are the one who aimed, shot and killed our loved one."

"John is dead. He will never smile again, laugh, never age, never get married," Collins said. "An entire life has been stolen from him."
Steve 1percent

Cresskill, NJ

#32 Jan 28, 2009
I think its great a pagan's member was trying to keep the Sewage of the hells angels from seaming into New Jersey Hells angels known as chicken heads are the lowest level of the 15 biker world. Hells angels seem to have a very large percent of members harn and murder women children and old men. hells angels are looked down upon by all real Bikers that care about women and children.Its a shame the more Pagan had to go to jail for helping keep NJ a safe place for women and children.
Steve 1percent

Cresskill, NJ

#33 Jan 28, 2009
Hells angels are the scum of the biker world and as you can see they like to play to the media and put down other innocent men because scuum bags hells angels have no defense for all the crimes hells angel members commit on women and children.Chuck Zito got out of the hells angels I guess he did not want his fake rep spoiled by a gang of sewage in the hells angels that harm and murder women and children.
Tony

Cresskill, NJ

#34 Jan 28, 2009
It is a shame a man had to go to prison for trying to keep the sewage of the hells angels for seeping into NJ.I guess it looks like to most bikers the hells angels cut a deal with the dead mans family and police to put an innocent man in prison that the police did not like and in return the police and somerset county prosecutors opened the NJ door and Welcomed the cum of the hells angels and put all the NJ women and children at extra risk by allowing Hells angels in NJ.
Raymond

Cresskill, NJ

#35 Jan 28, 2009
Its a shame the somerset county prosecutor sided with the hells angels and opened the door for the Newark new jersey hells angels. The police and prosecutor should stay out of things they do not understand.If that case was called self defense like it should have been the hells angels would have been to frightened to stay in NJ because Nj has real man that will not tolerate hells angels sewage coming in and harming women and children. but when the hells angels have the power of the state and local police and courts on the hells angels side they must feel untouchable.
UPI

AOL

#36 Jan 29, 2009
LOS ANGELES, Oct. 21 (UPI)-- Southern California authorities say they have arrested more than 60 members of the Mongols motorcycle gang and are seeking to take over the group's name.

A three-year undercover investigation led by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms culminated with an 86-count federal racketeering indictment naming 70 individuals, announced Tuesday in Los Angeles.

Tuesday's massive raids included 162 search warrants in eight states and the arrest of several chapter presidents along with former national president Doc Cavazo.

The U.S. Attorney's office in Los Angeles said that the Mongols engaged in murder, hate crimes and drug trafficking and recruited a number of its members from notorious Latino street gangs.

The indictment could truly mean the end of the Mongols as a visible organization, officials said. Prosecutors plan to seek control of the Mongol name, which is a registered trademark and part of the identifying patch worn by members.

"For the first time ever, we are seeking to forfeit the intellectual property of a gang," said U.S. Attorney Thomas O'Brien. "If the court grants our request for this order, then if any law enforcement officer sees a Mongol wearing his patch, he will be authorized to stop that gang member and literally take the jacket right off his back."
NJGIA

AOL

#37 Jan 29, 2009
Good to know this exists...

http://www.njgia.org/2009conference.asp
Hells angel women killers

Cresskill, NJ

#38 Jan 29, 2009
Tony wrote:
It is a shame a man had to go to prison for trying to keep the sewage of the hells angels for seeping into NJ.I guess it looks like to most bikers the hells angels cut a deal with the dead mans family and police to put an innocent man in prison that the police did not like and in return the police and somerset county prosecutors opened the NJ door and Welcomed the cum of the hells angels and put all the NJ women and children at extra risk by allowing Hells angels in NJ.
Its a shame the somerset county prosecutor sided with the hells angels and opened the door for the Newark new jersey hells angels. The police and prosecutor should stay out of things they do not understand.If that case was called self defense like it should have been the hells angels would have been to frightened to stay in NJ because Nj has real man that will not tolerate hells angels sewage coming in and harming women and children. but when the hells angels have the power of the state and local police and courts on the hells angels side they must feel untouchable.
Hells angel women killers

Cresskill, NJ

#39 Jan 29, 2009
Hells angels are known as the only big motorcycle club that has many members that harm molest and murder women children and old men.None of the real motorcycle clubs would take men that are angels thats why the hells angels exist to take the sewage that no real club wants.
Hells angel women killers

Cresskill, NJ

#40 Jan 29, 2009
Steve 1percent wrote:
Hells angels are the scum of the biker world and as you can see they like to play to the media and put down other innocent men because scuum bags hells angels have no defense for all the crimes hells angel members commit on women and children.Chuck Zito got out of the hells angels I guess he did not want his fake rep spoiled by a gang of sewage in the hells angels that harm and murder women and children.
Yes the hells angels are the Scumm bottom of the biker world.
Safer

AOL

#41 Jan 29, 2009
UPI wrote:
LOS ANGELES, Oct. 21 (UPI)-- Southern California authorities say they have arrested more than 60 members of the Mongols motorcycle gang and are seeking to take over the group's name.
A three-year undercover investigation led by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms culminated with an 86-count federal racketeering indictment naming 70 individuals, announced Tuesday in Los Angeles.
Tuesday's massive raids included 162 search warrants in eight states and the arrest of several chapter presidents along with former national president Doc Cavazo.
The U.S. Attorney's office in Los Angeles said that the Mongols engaged in murder, hate crimes and drug trafficking and recruited a number of its members from notorious Latino street gangs.
The indictment could truly mean the end of the Mongols as a visible organization, officials said. Prosecutors plan to seek control of the Mongol name, which is a registered trademark and part of the identifying patch worn by members.
"For the first time ever, we are seeking to forfeit the intellectual property of a gang," said U.S. Attorney Thomas O'Brien. "If the court grants our request for this order, then if any law enforcement officer sees a Mongol wearing his patch, he will be authorized to stop that gang member and literally take the jacket right off his back."
Good job ATF!!! Good to know you're going after ALL the MC gangs!!!
Hells angel women killers

Cresskill, NJ

#42 Jan 29, 2009
Steve 1percent wrote:
Hells angels are the scum of the biker world and as you can see they like to play to the media and put down other innocent men because scuum bags hells angels have no defense for all the crimes hells angel members commit on women and children.Chuck Zito got out of the hells angels I guess he did not want his fake rep spoiled by a gang of sewage in the hells angels that harm and murder women and children.
It is a shame a man had to go to prison for trying to keep the sewage of the hells angels for seeping into NJ.I guess it looks like to most bikers the hells angels cut a deal with the dead mans family and police to put an innocent man in prison that the police did not like and in return the police and somerset county prosecutors opened the NJ door and Welcomed the cum of the hells angels and put all the NJ women and children at extra risk by allowing Hells angels in NJ.

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