Enough with the guns already!

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Anon

Kingsland, GA

#1 Dec 8, 2012
MERCER, Pa.(AP) A man's handgun went off while he was holding it as he got into his truck in the parking lot of a western Pennsylvania gun store Saturday, and the shot killed his 7-year-old son, authorities said.

Joseph V. Loughrey, 44, of Sharpsville, was getting into the truck when the 9 mm handgun discharged, wounding Craig Allen Loughrey in the chest, according to state police. The boy died at the scene at Twigs Reloading Den in East Lackawannock Township, 60 miles north of Pittsburgh.

Investigators said Loughrey told them he didn't realize there was a bullet still in the chamber. "This happens all too often where people think the gun was empty," Lt. Eric Hermick told The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

Loughrey was trying to sell two guns at the store one a scope rifle and the other, the handgun, state police said. The owners told Loughrey the store doesn't buy guns so Loughrey and his son returned to the truck with them. Loughrey put the boy in the passenger seat and loaded the rifle into the truck, state police said. He was attempting to get inside and reached to put the handgun in the center storage console when it fired, they said.
Loughrey was questioned by state police, who said he was cooperative and distraught. The shooting is being investigated as an accident, although Loughrey could face charges, including manslaughter and negligence, Hermick told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

"I know that little kid was everything to him," Mark McLaughlin of Fredonia, a friend and co-worker of Loughrey's at Superior Well Services in Fredonia, told the Tribune-Review.
Messages left for the coroner's office and at a listing in Loughrey's name were not immediately returned.

Support sane gun laws and restrictions please!
George

United States

#2 Dec 8, 2012
GLYNN COUNTY, Ga.-- The Glynn County Police Department is investigating a shooting at Townsend Park.

Captain Marissa Tindale, spokesperson for the Glynn County Police Department, said officers were dispatched to the park located on Townsend Street after reports of gunshots.

Tindale said arriving officers found Tyler Scott Harris who had been shot twice.

Emergency personnel transported Harris to Southeast Georgia Health System and later transferred him to Savannah Memorial. Tindale said Harris is listed in critical condition.

Tindale said witnesses told police Harris had gone to the park to sell a firearm to a black male.

While Scott was at the park allegedly selling the firearm, Tindale said the black male tried to take the firearm from Harris. When he did, police said he allegedly shot Harris before fleeing the park. Tindale said Harris was not shot with the gun he was attempting to sell.

Officers investigated the shooting, Tindale said, and eventually arrested three people in connection with the shooting.

Police arrested 18-year-old Ladarrius Lawrence and his 20-year-old brother Lorenzo Lawrence. Tindale said police also arrested a 16-year-old juvenile. All three are from Brunswick.

Tindale said the three are charged with possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime, armed robbery and aggravated assault.

The investigation is still ongoing, Tindale said.

MAYBE this is the Gun control you are talking about?
George

United States

#3 Dec 8, 2012
JACKSONVILLE, Fla.-- The Jacksonville Sheriff's Office homicide unit is investigating a man's death from an apparent shooting in the 5500 block of Playa Way on Friday night.

The victim is a black male, who is not being identified pending next of kin notification, according to Sgt. Lonnie Mills with JSO.

The shooting stemmed from a confrontation outside of an apartment complex. After the shooting, everyone fled, Mills said. It was not yet known how many times the victim was shot.

The only suspect information that was given by Mills was that of a black male wearing a mask. The investigation is still in the early stages.

Witnesses to the incident have been taken downtown for questioning.

MORE Gun Control for you.
Duck

Saint Marys, GA

#5 Dec 9, 2012
Anon wrote:
MERCER, Pa.(AP) A man's handgun went off while he was holding it as he got into his truck in the parking lot of a western Pennsylvania gun store Saturday, and the shot killed his 7-year-old son, authorities said.
Joseph V. Loughrey, 44, of Sharpsville, was getting into the truck when the 9 mm handgun discharged, wounding Craig Allen Loughrey in the chest, according to state police. The boy died at the scene at Twigs Reloading Den in East Lackawannock Township, 60 miles north of Pittsburgh.
Investigators said Loughrey told them he didn't realize there was a bullet still in the chamber. "This happens all too often where people think the gun was empty," Lt. Eric Hermick told The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.
Loughrey was trying to sell two guns at the store one a scope rifle and the other, the handgun, state police said. The owners told Loughrey the store doesn't buy guns so Loughrey and his son returned to the truck with them. Loughrey put the boy in the passenger seat and loaded the rifle into the truck, state police said. He was attempting to get inside and reached to put the handgun in the center storage console when it fired, they said.
Loughrey was questioned by state police, who said he was cooperative and distraught. The shooting is being investigated as an accident, although Loughrey could face charges, including manslaughter and negligence, Hermick told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
"I know that little kid was everything to him," Mark McLaughlin of Fredonia, a friend and co-worker of Loughrey's at Superior Well Services in Fredonia, told the Tribune-Review.
Messages left for the coroner's office and at a listing in Loughrey's name were not immediately returned.
Support sane gun laws and restrictions please!
No, the friggin gun did not go off. The trigger was pulled. Unless the gun is proven defective, it's manslaughter.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#6 Dec 9, 2012
Perhaps it should be unlawful to sell a semi-automatic pistol without having the seller read a written explanation to the buyer explaining how removing the magazine from a semi-automatic pistol does not necssarily render the weapon safe.

After the reading, the seller would have to demonstrate by insertig a mag loaded with dummy rounds, chamber one, then remove the mag, then show the buyer that there still a round in the chamber. Seller would sign certifying it had been done and buyer would sign acknowledgement.

Something has to be done to protect idiots from themselves - and the rest of us from them. The overwhelming majority of these cases you read about involve a semi-auto with the mag removed but a round left in the chamber.

It is such a widespead problem that some gunshops will not let you bring a semi-auto into the store until you come in and get a caliber appropriate plug, lock the slide back, and insert the highly visible plug into the chamber.
21st Century

Kingsland, GA

#7 Dec 9, 2012
All hand guns should have a flashing red led built in the handle of the weapon indicating a round is loaded.
Wally

Anniston, AL

#8 Dec 9, 2012
Automobiles and alcohol have killed more people than all the wars since time began. You want to save lives? Outlaw booze. You want to make sure only crooks are armed? Outlaw guns.
how about

Kingsland, GA

#9 Dec 9, 2012
How about less gun sales. How about not every swinging di*k walking around with a gun. How about hunting guns only. How about actual trigger locks on guns. There are lots of ways to get a handle on this mess if Republicans would just grow a set and the NRA get out of the way.
George

United States

#10 Dec 9, 2012
MORE Gun control is going to fix this too, huh?

COLUMBIA COUNTY, Fla.-- The Columbia County Sheriff's Office is looking for a suspect involved in an armed robbery Saturday morning at Stop and Go Food Store in Lake City on State Road 47.

The suspect entered the convenience store located just south of I-75 at 7:15 a.m., armed with a handgun.

Police descried the suspect as a black male, 6 feet tall with a thin to medium build. He was wearing dark colored pants, a white t-shirt under a gray hooded sweatshirt, and light colored Nike athletic sneakers. The suspect also wore a black ski type mask over his face.

After robbing a clerk at gunpoint, he left the store.

He was seen entering the passenger side of a light green mini van, which was last seen traveling south on State Road 47.

Anyone with information about this crime is asked to call the Columbia County Sheriff's Office or Crime Stoppers of Columbia County. Callers to Crime Stoppers will always remain anonymous and may be eligible for a cash reward.

First Coast News
Really

Kingsland, GA

#11 Dec 9, 2012
I really want to legally shoot a bad guy right between the eyes before he harms me or any other bystander. I don't want an accidental firing for whatever reason. Technology can make a difference.

I would also like to see gps tracking chips installed, eliminating the stolen gun crap.
George

United States

#12 Dec 9, 2012
SHOULD have owned a Gun and knew how to use it. TRY it at my house!!!!

PALATKA, Fla.-
Three men were arrested in connection with a home invasion robbery of a 69-year-old woman Thursday night in Palatka.

Police said the men forced their way into a home in the 2000 block of Kate Street about 7:40 p.m. and demanded money from the woman.

Police said one of the men struck the woman in the face, and they said the three suspects stole two purses, which contained numerous items of value, including an undisclosed amount of cash. They then fled the home on foot.

Officers were able to find the men at the intersection of Cleveland and President streets. Two suspects were detained while the third took ran off. A K9 and an officer were able to track him to the 1000 block of Husson Avenue, where he was apprehended.

The suspects were identified as Tomas McKnight, 18, Torriano Brooks, 21, and Devon Pope, 20, all of Palatka. All three were arrested on charges of home invasion robbery, theft and battery. They were being held without bail.

The victim in the case received minor injuries and was treated at the scene.
Redneck

Woodbine, GA

#13 Dec 9, 2012
Moreno Jay wrote:
Perhaps it should be unlawful to sell a semi-automatic pistol without having the seller read a written explanation to the buyer explaining how removing the magazine from a semi-automatic pistol does not necssarily render the weapon safe.
After the reading, the seller would have to demonstrate by insertig a mag loaded with dummy rounds, chamber one, then remove the mag, then show the buyer that there still a round in the chamber. Seller would sign certifying it had been done and buyer would sign acknowledgement.
Something has to be done to protect idiots from themselves - and the rest of us from them. The overwhelming majority of these cases you read about involve a semi-auto with the mag removed but a round left in the chamber.
It is such a widespead problem that some gunshops will not let you bring a semi-auto into the store until you come in and get a caliber appropriate plug, lock the slide back, and insert the highly visible plug into the chamber.
Jay - the man had tried to sell the rifle and pistol to the gun dealer.

The impression I get is the gun dealer did not even touch the guns. Just told the man he did not buy guns.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#15 Dec 9, 2012
Red, I think you may ave read something into my post that was not there. Your statments are absolutely correct and I was fully aware of that.

I'm talking about future sales of semi-auto pistols by licensed gun dealers.

By the way, I just remembered a nice feature on my late father's 30-something year old S&W 9MM.
At first I thought the thing had an internal malfunction but soon figured it out.

When you drop out the magazine, the pistol will not fire until you put it back in. If you slip in an empty mag, you can dry fire. If you drop the mag but a round is left in the chamber and you are an idiot who does not realize there is possibly a round still in the chamber, the gun's feature protects you from your own ignorance by not being fireable until the mag - empty for loaded - is reinserted into the weapon.

Another peculiar feature is that when the safety thumb lever is DOWN, it's safe. You push it UP to fire it.

6+1 capacity kind of sucks, though.
J the Jerk

Woodbine, GA

#16 Dec 9, 2012
Moreno Jay wrote:
Red, I think you may ave read something into my post that was not there. Your statments are absolutely correct and I was fully aware of that.
I'm talking about future sales of semi-auto pistols by licensed gun dealers.
By the way, I just remembered a nice feature on my late father's 30-something year old S&W 9MM.
At first I thought the thing had an internal malfunction but soon figured it out.
When you drop out the magazine, the pistol will not fire until you put it back in. If you slip in an empty mag, you can dry fire. If you drop the mag but a round is left in the chamber and you are an idiot who does not realize there is possibly a round still in the chamber, the gun's feature protects you from your own ignorance by not being fireable until the mag - empty for loaded - is reinserted into the weapon.
Another peculiar feature is that when the safety thumb lever is DOWN, it's safe. You push it UP to fire it.
6+1 capacity kind of sucks, though.
It would only take one to kill you, dumb ass. You act as if you could be shot point blank with a 9mm and live to tell about it. Idiot. Granted, if shot in the leg,yes, maybe. But, if one were to level off a 9mm pistol at that skull of yours an pull the trigger, you would drop like a sack of potatoes.
You Are A Sick Bastard

Herndon, PA

#17 Dec 9, 2012
J the Jerk wrote:
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It would only take one to kill you, dumb ass. You act as if you could be shot point blank with a 9mm and live to tell about it. Idiot. Granted, if shot in the leg,yes, maybe. But, if one were to level off a 9mm pistol at that skull of yours an pull the trigger, you would drop like a sack of potatoes.
We have a jerk, here and it aint Jay.
You sir

Saint Marys, GA

#18 Dec 9, 2012
Are the sick bastard. you condone Morenos terroristic threats. Then slam someone else. Are you Moreno?
Tools

West Palm Beach, FL

#19 Dec 9, 2012
Guns are tools. Improper use of any tool can cause harm. Without the human element tools are harmless.
Doc

Kingsland, GA

#20 Dec 9, 2012
We need less guns in this country. We need tougher laws and regulations. We need to incorporate high technology into the manufacturing process as it relates to firing, safety and locking. Not everybody should be permitted to own a gun or store a gun. We need gun and ammunition tracking features. We need registration and licensing.

Otherwise we get these kind of statistics year after year:

82 percent of youth firearm suicide victims used a firearm belonging to a family member, usually a parent (Harvard School of Public Health, 2002).

In 2007, 683 children and teens ages 0-19 committed suicide with guns (NCIPC).

In 2008, 411 children and teens ages 0-19 were injured in a suicide attempt with a gun (NCIPC).

More at: http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/gunviolenc...
caution

Saint Marys, GA

#21 Dec 9, 2012
Everyone should be on notice during the holiday season of all the breakin's accuring buy a scanner and listen to what the officer's in our area are having to deal with and they are short handed the way the calls sound. Nightly people are having doors kicked in or breakin's while they are gone shopping or to local functions. If you heard the amount going on you would be in shock, I do want my protection if I need it. I believe we need more officers the way it is getting in Kingsland and St. Marys, keep a watch on your communities.
George

United States

#22 Dec 9, 2012
Doc wrote:
We need less guns in this country. We need tougher laws and regulations. We need to incorporate high technology into the manufacturing process as it relates to firing, safety and locking. Not everybody should be permitted to own a gun or store a gun. We need gun and ammunition tracking features. We need registration and licensing.
Otherwise we get these kind of statistics year after year:
82 percent of youth firearm suicide victims used a firearm belonging to a family member, usually a parent (Harvard School of Public Health, 2002).
In 2007, 683 children and teens ages 0-19 committed suicide with guns (NCIPC).
In 2008, 411 children and teens ages 0-19 were injured in a suicide attempt with a gun (NCIPC).
More at: http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/gunviolenc...
SO THEY USE A ROPE.

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