Obama wants to increase minimum wage
Simplistic dolt

Cumming, GA

#21 Feb 13, 2013
facts wrote:
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This has nothing to do with the Gov trying to interfere with free enterprise by dictating wages.
If you'd rather the government take no action and allow real wages to continue to drop, until US workers' standard of living is comparable to those in the third world, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. Personally, I don't think that's a good idea. We'll just agree to disagree on that.
The Taxman

Herndon, PA

#22 Feb 13, 2013
Here is the bottom line on the proposed minimum wage increase.

President Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, made it law in 1938.

Republicans have been trying to kill it ever since.

President Obama has proposed raising the rate from the current $7.25 to $9.00 per hour in stages by the end of 2015.

Seems reasonable. It will help lift up roughly 15-million of our poorest citizens.

Democrats in both the House and Senate will work very hard to get this enacted.

Republicans, as usual, will side with the corporate and wealthy lobbyist and work to defeat it.

Once again it plain to see who looks after ALL citizens, not just the wealthy and connected. Vote Democratic.
Real Simple

Saint Marys, GA

#23 Feb 13, 2013
Peanuts for Votes. Less hiring, less advancement opportunities, less business for all. Obamas socialist war marches on.
facts

United States

#24 Feb 13, 2013
Simplistic dolt wrote:
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If you'd rather the government take no action and allow real wages to continue to drop, until US workers' standard of living is comparable to those in the third world, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. Personally, I don't think that's a good idea. We'll just agree to disagree on that.
Gov interference in free market dynamics has proven to be problematic. Just look at the CRA impact on our economy. Raising the minimum wage will have unintended consequences and is widely accepted as a foolish thing to do.
facts

United States

#25 Feb 13, 2013
The Taxman wrote:
Here is the bottom line on the proposed minimum wage increase.
President Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, made it law in 1938.
Republicans have been trying to kill it ever since.
President Obama has proposed raising the rate from the current $7.25 to $9.00 per hour in stages by the end of 2015.
Seems reasonable. It will help lift up roughly 15-million of our poorest citizens.
Democrats in both the House and Senate will work very hard to get this enacted.
Republicans, as usual, will side with the corporate and wealthy lobbyist and work to defeat it.
Once again it plain to see who looks after ALL citizens, not just the wealthy and connected. Vote Democratic.
You really have no clue what you are talking about and spew forth nothing but tired and incorrect rhetoric.

“Make St. Marys great again! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#26 Feb 13, 2013
Simplistic dolt wrote:
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If you'd rather the government take no action and allow real wages to continue to drop, until US workers' standard of living is comparable to those in the third world, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. Personally, I don't think that's a good idea. We'll just agree to disagree on that.
Oky, let's assume you are correct. That being said, why not a minimum wage of $90.00 per hour rather than a measely $9.00?

You would not mind paying the Walmart prices engendered by $90.00 per hour grocery cart retrievers, would you? I mean, with your progressive moral superiority and all, that would not bother you, right?
Blu by u

United States

#27 Feb 13, 2013
The Taxman wrote:
Here is the bottom line on the proposed minimum wage increase.
President Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, made it law in 1938.
Republicans have been trying to kill it ever since.
President Obama has proposed raising the rate from the current $7.25 to $9.00 per hour in stages by the end of 2015.
Seems reasonable. It will help lift up roughly 15-million of our poorest citizens.
Democrats in both the House and Senate will work very hard to get this enacted.
Republicans, as usual, will side with the corporate and wealthy lobbyist and work to defeat it.
Once again it plain to see who looks after ALL citizens, not just the wealthy and connected. Vote Democratic.
Bleeding heart. Roosevelt was a Socialist too.
Simplistic dolt

Cumming, GA

#28 Feb 13, 2013
facts wrote:
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Gov interference in free market dynamics has proven to be problematic. Just look at the CRA impact on our economy. Raising the minimum wage will have unintended consequences and is widely accepted as a foolish thing to do.
The CRA had nothing to do with the financial crisis. In 2006, the peak of the bubble, private institutions not subject to the CRA wrote 84% of the sub-prime loans.

It was a lack of regulation in the financial markets, not over-regulation that caused the crisis. That is a fact widely accepted.
Anon

United States

#29 Feb 14, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
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Oky, let's assume you are correct. That being said, why not a minimum wage of $90.00 per hour rather than a measely $9.00?
You would not mind paying the Walmart prices engendered by $90.00 per hour grocery cart retrievers, would you? I mean, with your progressive moral superiority and all, that would not bother you, right?
I think $9.00 instead of $90.00 is appropriate. But this may tap into the corporate profits of Wal-Mart. However $9.00 a hour will be of great importance to the hourly worker.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#30 Feb 14, 2013
Simplistic dolt wrote:
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The CRA had nothing to do with the financial crisis. In 2006, the peak of the bubble, private institutions not subject to the CRA wrote 84% of the sub-prime loans.
It was a lack of regulation in the financial markets, not over-regulation that caused the crisis. That is a fact widely accepted.
No, not true. It was indeed the CRA that was the proximate cause of the problem. If you are going to force people into making risky loans they are going to do whatever they can to mitigate that risk.

No CRA -> very few bad loans -> no derivatives -> no financial crisis. It is a very simple trail to follow.

If you force people to act against their interest you should not be surprised if they do things to ease the economic injury you have forced upon them.

This is why a truly fair, open, and free market is so superior to a planned economy. People act in their interest as they buy and sell each to their own benefit and not injury. Resources flow to where they are needed or wanted and away from where they are not.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#31 Feb 14, 2013
Anon wrote:
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I think $9.00 instead of $90.00 is appropriate. But this may tap into the corporate profits of Wal-Mart. However $9.00 a hour will be of great importance to the hourly worker.
Changing the minimum wage will not tap the profits of Wal*Mart or any other business, large or small. It will only harm the wage earner who loses their job or the consumer who must pay for the increased wages with higher priced goods. In the process there is one more drag placed on an already overburdened and regulated economy.

Markets, whether for goods, money, or labor, work best then they are the freest. Over regulation only serves to perturb the markets to everyone's injury.
facts

United States

#32 Feb 14, 2013
Simplistic dolt wrote:
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The CRA had nothing to do with the financial crisis. In 2006, the peak of the bubble, private institutions not subject to the CRA wrote 84% of the sub-prime loans.
It was a lack of regulation in the financial markets, not over-regulation that caused the crisis. That is a fact widely accepted.
You are wrong. The CRA was the root cause and this is widely known and accepted. You really should stop counting on Chris Matthews for your information.
facts

United States

#33 Feb 14, 2013
LonePalm wrote:
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No, not true. It was indeed the CRA that was the proximate cause of the problem. If you are going to force people into making risky loans they are going to do whatever they can to mitigate that risk.
No CRA -> very few bad loans -> no derivatives -> no financial crisis. It is a very simple trail to follow.
If you force people to act against their interest you should not be surprised if they do things to ease the economic injury you have forced upon them.
This is why a truly fair, open, and free market is so superior to a planned economy. People act in their interest as they buy and sell each to their own benefit and not injury. Resources flow to where they are needed or wanted and away from where they are not.
Well stated. The law of unintended consequences is always in play when the Gov tries to effect behavior.
WTF

Kingsland, GA

#34 Feb 14, 2013
Simplistic dolt wrote:
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Alternatively, management could invest in more efficient hamburger equipment, providing good jobs for those who make, install, and service that equipment.
You're not very good at this are you?
So what you are saying is for management to go buy cheaper in China. Because we all know the American worker will never take a pay-cut. Look at Hostess union said no way cut our pay so company said ok you have no job at all.
redneck math work for 1 dollar less per hour or sit at home with no dollars. I would of took the paycut
Really

Saint Marys, GA

#35 Feb 14, 2013
Sure in the old days. Now those workers will have unemployment checks deposited into their accounts, trade adjustment assistance, and a whole bunch of other programs for years to come. All this while watching afternoon television. The Obama socialist movement marches on.
Pie Hole

United States

#36 Feb 14, 2013
WTF wrote:
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So what you are saying is for management to go buy cheaper in China. Because we all know the American worker will never take a pay-cut. Look at Hostess union said no way cut our pay so company said ok you have no job at all.
redneck math work for 1 dollar less per hour or sit at home with no dollars. I would of took the paycut
Raising the min wage helps companies decide to move their businesses out the US.
And if they will never accept a pay cut just don't give them a raise. It is about causing inflation.
Simplistic dolt

Cumming, GA

#37 Feb 14, 2013
LonePalm wrote:
<quoted text>
No, not true. It was indeed the CRA that was the proximate cause of the problem. If you are going to force people into making risky loans they are going to do whatever they can to mitigate that risk.
No CRA -> very few bad loans -> no derivatives -> no financial crisis. It is a very simple trail to follow.
If you force people to act against their interest you should not be surprised if they do things to ease the economic injury you have forced upon them.
This is why a truly fair, open, and free market is so superior to a planned economy. People act in their interest as they buy and sell each to their own benefit and not injury. Resources flow to where they are needed or wanted and away from where they are not.
Bovine excrement. 84% of subprime loans were made by institutions not subject to the CRA, and the real crap loans weren't even made in areas subject to the CRA. Look at the default rates in Osprey Cove, Cumberland Harbour, and my favorite, Timberland Estates. They weren't even subprime loans.
The Taxman

Herndon, PA

#38 Feb 14, 2013
Wow, what a bunch of loony's we have on this topic.

Here is the truth:

The Federal Minimum Wage has been raised 22 times since 1938.

For each raise, Republican loony's like we have here today, always say the same scary crazy lies.

And in EACH of the 22 cases, the scary lies and gloom predictions told by Republicans DO NOT EVER COME TRUE.

America is still the greatest country in the world.

America is still growing it's GDP.

The sky has NOT fallen in any of the 22 cases.

We will survive this 23rd phased increase just fine too.
Dontmakemepuke

United States

#39 Feb 14, 2013
The Taxman wrote:
Wow, what a bunch of loony's we have on this topic.
Here is the truth:
The Federal Minimum Wage has been raised 22 times since 1938.
For each raise, Republican loony's like we have here today, always say the same scary crazy lies.
And in EACH of the 22 cases, the scary lies and gloom predictions told by Republicans DO NOT EVER COME TRUE.
America is still the greatest country in the world.
America is still growing it's GDP.
The sky has NOT fallen in any of the 22 cases.
We will survive this 23rd phased increase just fine too.
TaxmanBlue, yaint got no learninz in economix.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#40 Feb 14, 2013
The Taxman wrote:
Wow, what a bunch of loony's we have on this topic.
Here is the truth:
The Federal Minimum Wage has been raised 22 times since 1938.
For each raise, Republican loony's like we have here today, always say the same scary crazy lies.
And in EACH of the 22 cases, the scary lies and gloom predictions told by Republicans DO NOT EVER COME TRUE.
America is still the greatest country in the world.
America is still growing it's GDP.
The sky has NOT fallen in any of the 22 cases.
We will survive this 23rd phased increase just fine too.
Just because it has been done before doesn't mean that it was a good thing. The minimum wage needs to be abolished and not raised.

We are the greatest country in the world because of the wisdom of our founders. We are still the greatest country despite the current administration. If we continue down the road to big government socialism we will lose that status. We will certainly have our freedoms crushed one by one.

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