Another needless gun death! Ten years old...

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Vet

Herndon, PA

#1 Jan 4, 2013
Get guns out of our communities!

More than 30 Americans die from gunshots daily!

"Aaliyah Boyer, of Lancaster, Penn., was welcoming 2013 with relatives in Elkton, Md., when, shortly after midnight, she collapsed.

The next thing I knew they carried her in and she was just limp," her mother, Crystal Blackburn, told ABC2. "I thought maybe she passed out because she did have a little bit of blood... but nothing significant.

The family never heard the gunshots over the sound of fireworks.
"The wound in her head was caused by celebratory gunfire," Michael Holmes, a spokesman for the Cecil County Sheriff's Office, told ABCNews.com .

Investigators believe that party-goers at a nearby residence who fired their guns to ring in the new year pulled the trigger on the shot that took ultimately Aaliyah's life, according to NBC Philadelphia. Aaliyah fought for two days before being taken off life-support late Thursday morning."

Support and encourage gun control, tougher gun regulations and restrictions. Thank you!

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Pa-...

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#2 Jan 5, 2013
Do you realy think that gun control of any kind would have stopped those idiots from firing into the air?

Charge everyone at the gatehring who fired a gun with negligent homicide and impose max allowable sentences.
anon

Herndon, PA

#3 Jan 5, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
Do you realy think that gun control of any kind would have stopped those idiots from firing into the air?
Charge everyone at the gatehring who fired a gun with negligent homicide and impose max allowable sentences.
let me try and help you out here dipshit. if guns are not permitted in homes then the neighbors can't kill an innocent kid with a gun they don't have. it's not that hard a thought to put together.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#4 Jan 5, 2013
anon wrote:
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let me try and help you out here dipshit. if guns are not permitted in homes then the neighbors can't kill an innocent kid with a gun they don't have. it's not that hard a thought to put together.
Fine take away the guns of people that do stupid things. Taking away my guns would have done NOTHING to prevent this and would do NOTHING to prevent future occurrences.

The second amendment is to protect the people from a government that would disarm them. You must not value your liberty very much that you would be willing to trash mine.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#5 Jan 5, 2013
anon wrote:
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let me try and help you out here dipshit. if guns are not permitted in homes then the neighbors can't kill an innocent kid with a gun they don't have. it's not that hard a thought to put together.
Personally I wish you no harm. I want to be left alone by you and your ilk. You may live as you choose but let me live as I choose without interference.

I see little difference between the active gun grabber and those who support them. Unless and until you are willing to personally risk your life to take my guns away from me I will count you a coward and a would-be petty tyrant by proxy.

Perhaps you would like to enlighten us as to why you think it so necessary to destroy the freedom and liberties of your fellow countrymen. If you will not defend our freedom why should we defend yours?

The Constitution is our organizing document as a nation and a society. The Bill of Rights contains specific lists of PERSONAL freedoms and explicit limitations on the scope and activity of the government. If the government will not recognize and abide by the supreme law of the land, why would you expect it to respect lesser laws limiting its activity? If the government will trample on one citizen what is to stop it from trampling on ANY citizen?
anon

Herndon, PA

#6 Jan 5, 2013
LonePalm wrote:
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Personally I wish you no harm. I want to be left alone by you and your ilk. You may live as you choose but let me live as I choose without interference.
I see little difference between the active gun grabber and those who support them. Unless and until you are willing to personally risk your life to take my guns away from me I will count you a coward and a would-be petty tyrant by proxy.
Perhaps you would like to enlighten us as to why you think it so necessary to destroy the freedom and liberties of your fellow countrymen. If you will not defend our freedom why should we defend yours?
The Constitution is our organizing document as a nation and a society. The Bill of Rights contains specific lists of PERSONAL freedoms and explicit limitations on the scope and activity of the government. If the government will not recognize and abide by the supreme law of the land, why would you expect it to respect lesser laws limiting its activity? If the government will trample on one citizen what is to stop it from trampling on ANY citizen?
Sorry guy, your interpretation of the Second Amendment written well over two-hundred years ago in the day of black powder & muskets, DO NOT trump the rights of the ten year girl in Pennsylvania to live.

Gun laws are going to change. Normal Americans have had enough of these senseless killings. Get on board and be part of the solution to this nationwide problem, not part of the problem.
Poloski Shumerisky

Kingsland, GA

#7 Jan 5, 2013
First: a law making private ownership of guns illegal. Second: a grace period for all private guns to be turned in at collections centers. Third: home inspections to make sure all private guns are turned in.

It can be done by beefing up the ATF with more SWAT teams and using the military if necessary. Now government would have total control and government could impliment reforms for a better society. Central planning is the only answer.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#8 Jan 5, 2013
I am reminded of Claire Wolfe's statement.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

The harder you push the faster the clock ticks. Before you know it later is now.

Jefferson's tree needs occasional watering.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#9 Jan 5, 2013
"Gun laws are going to change. Normal Americans have had enough of these senseless killings. Get on board and be part of the solution to this nationwide problem, not part of the problem."

NO, you have it wrong. YOUR elimination by true "normal Americans" may will be an unavoidable part of the solution.
anon

Herndon, PA

#10 Jan 5, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
"Gun laws are going to change. Normal Americans have had enough of these senseless killings. Get on board and be part of the solution to this nationwide problem, not part of the problem."
NO, you have it wrong. YOUR elimination by true "normal Americans" may will be an unavoidable part of the solution.
this pretty well cements the case why guns should not be kept in homes. this nutcase has professed to owning multiple guns. it's only a matter of time before he tires of only touching them and himself and decides to test them for real on his neighbors that don't think exactly like him as he says above. it's time to fix our gun laws people. help out.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#11 Jan 6, 2013
anon wrote:
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this pretty well cements the case why guns should not be kept in homes. this nutcase has professed to owning multiple guns. it's only a matter of time before he tires of only touching them and himself and decides to test them for real on his neighbors that don't think exactly like him as he says above. it's time to fix our gun laws people. help out.
It seems to me that you and the other gun grabbers would be the proximate cause of Jay using his guns in this case.

Neat rhetorical trick you've got there. Using a potential problem that you created as a pretext for denying someone their Constitutional Rights.
Vet

Herndon, PA

#12 Jan 6, 2013
LonePalm wrote:
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It seems to me that you and the other gun grabbers would be the proximate cause of Jay using his guns in this case.
Neat rhetorical trick you've got there. Using a potential problem that you created as a pretext for denying someone their Constitutional Rights.
You can't be serious.

I'm pretty darn sure the parents and friends of the dead 10-year old don't think this is merely "a potential problem" as you say.

And I'm 100-percent sure the dead 10-year old lying cold and lifeless in a morgue with a toe tag would not agree and say, this is only "a potential problem."

And if something as simple as my speaking out would cause Jay to come out guns blazing, do you honestly think it's wise for him and others to have guns in our communities?

You really need to rethink your position as it's dangerous and life-threatening to the rest of us.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#13 Jan 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
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You can't be serious.
I'm pretty darn sure the parents and friends of the dead 10-year old don't think this is merely "a potential problem" as you say.
And I'm 100-percent sure the dead 10-year old lying cold and lifeless in a morgue with a toe tag would not agree and say, this is only "a potential problem."
And if something as simple as my speaking out would cause Jay to come out guns blazing, do you honestly think it's wise for him and others to have guns in our communities?
You really need to rethink your position as it's dangerous and life-threatening to the rest of us.
Please pay attention. The potential treat being referred to was Jay shooting up his neighbors. And, no, I don't think words would cause Jay to shoot up his neighbors.

Nice trick. Now somehow my political position and Constitutional rights are life-threatening to others? By your argument, because some bloggers post inflammatory statements we need to restrict the freedom of others because they might write something inflammatory and hurt some liberal's fragile ego. As I wrote to Anon, you are another would be petty tyrant by proxy.

Since: Dec 12

Kingsland, GA

#14 Jan 6, 2013
I think Jay would shoot his neighbor, if they didn't look like him. Savage.
Frustrated

Saint Marys, GA

#15 Jan 6, 2013
All of you clown shoes that say that taking guns away will solve the problem is ludicrous. Granted all the accidental deaths will hopefully go away but why are people not raising a stink about alcohol. bet if you look up those stats a shit ton more than 30 a day die in alcohol related incidents. You can't pick the parts of the constitution you like and forget about the rest. The freedom of speech and freedom of the press has cost lives but no one is standing up to take that away....YET. The point is that if we give on this one part who is to say that is where it will stop. History as shown that it won't stop until we a dictated too.

“It's comong.”

Since: Nov 12

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#16 Jan 6, 2013
anon wrote:
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let me try and help you out here dipshit. if guns are not permitted in homes then the neighbors can't kill an innocent kid with a gun they don't have. it's not that hard a thought to put together.
I have a problem with legislating stupidity. As Gump said, "Stupid is as stupid does"is something that education or institutionalizing can fix. I guess stupid is just that. Ignorance is correctable. When I was young I was taught if you shoot a bullet straight up, it will come straight down. This idea that it will not hit anything or do damage is flat wrong.
From what you wrote above, I would hope that you give up all your weaponry and let the bureaucracy take care of you.

“It's comong.”

Since: Nov 12

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#17 Jan 6, 2013
anon wrote:
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let me try and help you out here dipshit. if guns are not permitted in homes then the neighbors can't kill an innocent kid with a gun they don't have. it's not that hard a thought to put together.
Hey, I have a question for you. If legislation was written to ban all civilian ownership of guns, what would be the constitutional authority?
zontormasterof1

United States

#18 Jan 7, 2013
I have owned a shotgun for over thirty years, never fired anywhere but at a range. How does my ownership pose a danger to anyone? There are owners of cars that pose far more danger and that danger is demonsrtable by review of thier records, should we ban private ownership of cars?
How bout this

Herndon, PA

#19 Jan 7, 2013
3100 hundred children are ABORTED everyday. Should we make that illegal? Tobacco kills 300,000 Americans a year should we ban that? Death by automobile accident outweighs gun deaths 10 to one, lets get rid of them too. Oh wait we don't want to get rid of those. We just want to eliminate the 50 million arme people who may get fed up with our form of government oneday so we can do whatever we want. It has nothing to do with dead children, your politicians care about dissarming the flock. Cattle are much easier to herd to the slaughter if they dont have horns.

“Commander & Chef”

Since: Sep 11

Saint Marys, GA

#20 Jan 7, 2013
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

Any public official who is afraid to be surrounded by armed constituents is a public official the constituents need to be armed against.-- LonePalm

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