Proposed ammendment

“Don't let em take ur liberties”

Since: Jul 12

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#1 Dec 30, 2012
35 states are in support.For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that members of Congress could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that passed ... in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn't seem logical. We do not have an elite that
is above the law. I truly don't care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever . The self-serving must stop.

Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States ..."
Do you support this idea?
NightRider76

United States

#2 Jan 2, 2013
HELLZ YEAH...this should've been in effect
Tired of Laziness

United States

#3 Jan 2, 2013
Do the research before you post garbage. "Many citizens had no idea that members of Congress could retire with the same pay after only one term" This is not true. They fall under the same retirement plan as all federal employees, either FERS or CSRS. Do you realize there are less than 500 former Congressman collecting retirement? Research my friend before you believe everything you read in social media!!

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf...

You are probably mad that Congress voted for a pay raise as well... what you probably don't realize is that pay raise also is for the military and federal employees. They all fall under the same umbrella. Sure, I agree Congress doesn't deserve a raise but the military sure does!!
Jack

United States

#4 Jan 2, 2013
Tired of Laziness wrote:
Do the research before you post garbage. "Many citizens had no idea that members of Congress could retire with the same pay after only one term" This is not true. They fall under the same retirement plan as all federal employees, either FERS or CSRS. Do you realize there are less than 500 former Congressman collecting retirement? Research my friend before you believe everything you read in social media!!
http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf...
You are probably mad that Congress voted for a pay raise as well... what you probably don't realize is that pay raise also is for the military and federal employees. They all fall under the same umbrella. Sure, I agree Congress doesn't deserve a raise but the military sure does!!
Just one point. Congresses 1.5% pay rais is automatic and not the same as employees. Fed employees last raise was 2010.

Under both CSRS and FERS, Members of Congress are eligible for a pension at age 62 if they have completed at least five years of service. Members are eligible for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service.
Tired of Laziness

Virginia Beach, VA

#5 Jan 2, 2013
This is the memo I'm referring to:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/20...

"Under both CSRS and FERS, Members of Congress are eligible for a pension at age 62 if they have completed at least five years of service. Members are eligible for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service." 100% in agreement with this ... but it is not at 100% of their pay as most people believe... nor do they get it for their whole life. They must meet the criteria (i.e. a 6 year Senator that is 40 will not be able to retire when he is done with office and collect it for his whole life) He will however get 6%(assuming FERS and this year) of his base pay when he turns 62 (and until he dies).
Tired of Laziness

United States

#6 Jan 2, 2013
FERS has same 5 year vesting requirement:

http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/fers/eligibilit...

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