Gun deaths and shootings for 10-15 Feb 2013

[Camden Vet]

Here's A FEW gun shootings and deaths from last week. There are HUNDREDS more. It would take about 10 pages to list them all. And just think, this goes on day after day all year long. Imagine the pain and suffering this has caused families.

Bottom line, we've got too lax gun safety laws in this country and too many guns in homes and available on the streets. Contact your elected officials ( www.contactingthecongress.org ) and tell them you support and demand sane, fair, tougher gun safety laws and you want them now.

Fort Smith, Ark.-- Early Thursday morning, a 25-year-old woman was shot and killed at her home by her 19-year-old nephew

Santa Cruz, Calif.-- A 21-year-old female college student waiting at a bus stop was shot in the head.

Searcy, Ark.-- A 24-year-old woman was found fatally shot at an apartment complex.

Clifton, Colo.-- A man attempting to commit suicide by shooting himself in the chest caused an injury to a woman in the house when she was stuck by the bullet after it exited the man’s back.

Cottage Grove, Ore.-- Two men were driving on a highway when one of them fired a shotgun at another moving vehicle rear wheels.

Clayton County, Ga.-- A man was shot to death during an argument with a woman inside a residence.

Ramsey, Minn.-- A 67-year-old woman and 65-year-old husband were found dead, apparently a murder-suicide.

Cleveland, Ohio -- A 45-year-old woman was killed after she got caught in a crossfire. She leaves behind five children.

Council Bluffs, Iowa -- A 22-year-old woman and her 19-month-old son were shot and wounded outside their apartment.

Chesterfield County, S.C.-- A 56-year-old man got out of his truck in the parking lot of a county courthouse and sprayed a 21-year-old woman’s car with gunfire.

Chicago, Ill.-- Two boys, ages 15 and 16, were shot and wounded as they walked on a sidewalk.

Kendall, Fla.-- A 13-year-old boy was shot at his home.

Hendersonville, Tenn.-- A 29-year-old man shot and wounded his 26-year-old wife.

Memphis, Tenn.-- A 4-year-old boy died after he found a gun and shot himself.

Oakdale, Minn.-- A 9-year-old boy was shot dead and his mother wounded when a man apparently began to randomly fire.

New Orleans, La.-- A 22-year-old man was shot in the head and later died.

College Park, Md.-- After a 23-year-old graduate student at a university tried to start a fire in his residence, he used a 9mm handgun to shoot and kill a 22-year-old male roommate and wound another 22-year-old male roommate before using the weapon to kill himself.

Orlando, Fla.-- Two men, ages 21 and 22, were found shot dead inside a home.

St. Louis, Mo.-- A 33-year-old man was found fatally shot on a train platform.

West Palm Beach, Fla.-- A man in his early 20s was shot on a street and killed.

Caldwell, Idaho -- A 34-year-old man was shot by his 41-year-old wife during a domestic dispute.

Chicago, Ill.-- A 16-year-old boy was shot in the back on a street.

New Orleans, La.-- Two women were shot outside a restaurant.

Akron, Ohio -- A 21-year-old woman in a van with at least five other people was shot by a gun fired from inside the vehicle.

Chelsea, Ala.-- A man with a gun entered a middle school and held several students against their will.

Middletown, Conn.-- A 56-year-old man is accused of threatening two snow-plow drivers with a loaded shotgun.

Nashville, Tenn.-- A handgun was found in a student’s backpack at a middle school.

Kiln, Miss.-- A 20-year-old woman was killed by her 21-year-old brother.

Price, Utah -- A 37-year-old man fatally shot his 32-year-old wife before shooting and killing himself.

Chicago, Ill.-- A 33-year-old man walking on a sidewalk was shot in the back when someone opened fire from a vehicle.

Conway, Ark.-- Police investigating a wrecked pick-up truck on an interstate highway discovered the driver had been shot and killed.

Riverton, Utah -- A man cleaning a handgun in a home with several friends shot one of them in the stomach.

[Camden Vet]

I forgot to mention that during the same time, 1126 people were killed in auto accidents.

[Moreno Jay]

I love your use of the Lib euphemism "gun safety laws."

That's even better than "revenue enhancements" and "investments."

[Really]

So Camden Vet, what do you mean by gun safety laws? You can't legislate the stupid out of people. My children have been brought up around firearms and taught safety at the same time. There was no law there, it was a respect. People fear what they do not know. Teach respect and safety will follow.

[miami]

Camden Vet wrote:

Here's A FEW gun shootings and deaths from last week. There are HUNDREDS more. It would take about 10 pages to list them all. And just think, this goes on day after day all year long. Imagine the pain and suffering this has caused families.
Bottom line, we've got too lax gun safety laws in this country and too many guns in homes and available on the streets. Contact your elected officials ( www.contactingthecongress.org ) and tell them you support and demand sane, fair, tougher gun safety laws and you want them now.
Fort Smith, Ark.-- Early Thursday morning, a 25-year-old woman was shot and killed at her home by her 19-year-old nephew
Santa Cruz, Calif.-- A 21-year-old female college student waiting at a bus stop was shot in the head.
Searcy, Ark.-- A 24-year-old woman was found fatally shot at an apartment complex.
Clifton, Colo.-- A man attempting to commit suicide by shooting himself in the chest caused an injury to a woman in the house when she was stuck by the bullet after it exited the man’s back.
Cottage Grove, Ore.-- Two men were driving on a highway when one of them fired a shotgun at another moving vehicle rear wheels.
Clayton County, Ga.-- A man was shot to death during an argument with a woman inside a residence.
Ramsey, Minn.-- A 67-year-old woman and 65-year-old husband were found dead, apparently a murder-suicide.
Cleveland, Ohio -- A 45-year-old woman was killed after she got caught in a crossfire. She leaves behind five children.
Council Bluffs, Iowa -- A 22-year-old woman and her 19-month-old son were shot and wounded outside their apartment.
Chesterfield County, S.C.-- A 56-year-old man got out of his truck in the parking lot of a county courthouse and sprayed a 21-year-old woman’s car with gunfire.
Chicago, Ill.-- Two boys, ages 15 and 16, were shot and wounded as they walked on a sidewalk.
Kendall, Fla.-- A 13-year-old boy was shot at his home.
Hendersonville, Tenn.-- A 29-year-old man shot and wounded his 26-year-old wife.
Memphis, Tenn.-- A 4-year-old boy died after he found a gun and shot himself.
Oakdale, Minn.-- A 9-year-old boy was shot dead and his mother wounded when a man apparently began to randomly fire.
New Orleans, La.-- A 22-year-old man was shot in the head and later died.
College Park, Md.-- After a 23-year-old graduate student at a university tried to start a fire in his residence, he used a 9mm handgun to shoot and kill a 22-year-old male roommate and wound another 22-year-old male roommate before using the weapon to kill himself.
Orlando, Fla.-- Two men, ages 21 and 22, were found shot dead inside a home.
St. Louis, Mo.-- A 33-year-old man was found fatally shot on a train platform.
West Palm Beach, Fla.-- A man in his early 20s was shot on a street and killed.
Caldwell, Idaho -- A 34-year-old man was shot by his 41-year-old wife during a domestic dispute.
Chicago, Ill.-- A 16-year-old boy was shot in the back on a street.
New Orleans, La.-- Two women were shot outside a restaurant.
Akron, Ohio -- A 21-year-old woman in a van with at least five other people was shot by a gun fired from inside the vehicle.
Chelsea, Ala.-- A man with a gun entered a middle school and held several students against their will.
Middletown, Conn.-- A 56-year-old man is accused of threatening two snow-plow drivers with a loaded shotgun.
Nashville, Tenn.-- A handgun was found in a student’s backpack at a middle school.
Kiln, Miss.-- 20-year-old woman was killed by her 21-year-old brother.
Price, Utah -- 37-year-old man fatally shot his 32-year-old wife before shooting and killing himself.
Chicago, Ill.-- A 33-year-old man walking on a sidewalk was shot in the back when someone opened fire from a vehicle.
Conway, Ark.-- Police investigating a wrecked pick-up truck on an interstate highway discovered the driver had been shot and killed.
Riverton, Utah -- man cleaning a handgun in a home with several friends shot one of them in the stomach.

Not my concern.

[miami]

Camden Vet wrote:

Here's A FEW gun shootings and deaths from last week. There are HUNDREDS more. It would take about 10 pages to list them all. And just think, this goes on day after day all year long. Imagine the pain and suffering this has caused families.
Bottom line, we've got too lax gun safety laws in this country and too many guns in homes and available on the streets. Contact your elected officials ( www.contactingthecongress.org ) and tell them you support and demand sane, fair, tougher gun safety laws and you want them now.
Fort Smith, Ark.-- Early Thursday morning, a 25-year-old woman was shot and killed at her home by her 19-year-old nephew
Santa Cruz, Calif.-- A 21-year-old female college student waiting at a bus stop was shot in the head.
Searcy, Ark.-- A 24-year-old woman was found fatally shot at an apartment complex.
Clifton, Colo.-- A man attempting to commit suicide by shooting himself in the chest caused an injury to a woman in the house when she was stuck by the bullet after it exited the man’s back.
Cottage Grove, Ore.-- Two men were driving on a highway when one of them fired a shotgun at another moving vehicle rear wheels.
Clayton County, Ga.-- A man was shot to death during an argument with a woman inside a residence.
Ramsey, Minn.-- A 67-year-old woman and 65-year-old husband were found dead, apparently a murder-suicide.
Cleveland, Ohio -- A 45-year-old woman was killed after she got caught in a crossfire. She leaves behind five children.
Council Bluffs, Iowa -- A 22-year-old woman and her 19-month-old son were shot and wounded outside their apartment.
Chesterfield County, S.C.-- A 56-year-old man got out of his truck in the parking lot of a county courthouse and sprayed a 21-year-old woman’s car with gunfire.
Chicago, Ill.-- Two boys, ages 15 and 16, were shot and wounded as they walked on a sidewalk.
Kendall, Fla.-- A 13-year-old boy was shot at his home.
Hendersonville, Tenn.-- A 29-year-old man shot and wounded his 26-year-old wife.
Memphis, Tenn.-- A 4-year-old boy died after he found a gun and shot himself.
Oakdale, Minn.-- A 9-year-old boy was shot dead and his mother wounded when a man apparently began to randomly fire.
New Orleans, La.-- A 22-year-old man was shot in the head and later died.
College Park, Md.-- After a 23-year-old graduate student at a university tried to start a fire in his residence, he used a 9mm handgun to shoot and kill a 22-year-old male roommate and wound another 22-year-old male roommate before using the weapon to kill himself.
Orlando, Fla.-- Two men, ages 21 and 22, were found shot dead inside a home.
St. Louis, Mo.-- A 33-year-old man was found fatally shot on a train platform.
West Palm Beach, Fla.-- A man in his early 20s was shot on a street and killed.
Caldwell, Idaho -- A 34-year-old man was shot by his 41-year-old wife during a domestic dispute.
Chicago, Ill.-- A 16-year-old boy was shot in the back on a street.
New Orleans, La.-- Two women were shot outside a restaurant.
Akron, Ohio -- A 21-year-old woman in a van with at least five other people was shot by a gun fired from inside the vehicle.
Chelsea, Ala.-- A man with a gun entered a middle school and held several students against their will.
Middletown, Conn.-- A 56-year-old man is accused of threatening two snow-plow drivers with a loaded shotgun.
Nashville, Tenn.-- A handgun was found in a student’s backpack at a middle school.
Kiln, Miss.-- A 20-year-old woman was killed by her 21-year-old brother.
Price, Utah -- A 37-year-old man fatally shot his 32-year-old wife before shooting and killing himself.
Chicago, Ill.-- A 33-year-old man walking on a sidewalk was shot in the back when someone opened fire from a vehicle.
Conway, Ark.-- Police investigating a wrecked pick-up truck on an interstate highway discovered the driver had been shot and killed.
Riverton, Utah -- A man cleaning a handgun in a home with several friends shot one of them in the stomach.

Don't care

[Jack]

miami wrote:

<quoted text>Not my concern. Don't care.

You're a pitiful excuse for a citizen with views such as these.
Gun deaths and shootings are EVERYONE'S problem. It's at epidemic levels and increasing. Somethings must be done to help slow and eventually reverse this problem.

One simple proposal was a ring or bracelet that must be worn in order to fire a particular gun. So if you're at the store and a thief robs your home and gets your gun, it won't do them any good because it can't be fired. There are other reasonable proposals out there too.

[Redneck]

Jack wrote:

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You're a pitiful excuse for a citizen with views such as these.
Gun deaths and shootings are EVERYONE'S problem. It's at epidemic levels and increasing. Somethings must be done to help slow and eventually reverse this problem.
One simple proposal was a ring or bracelet that must be worn in order to fire a particular gun. So if you're at the store and a thief robs your home and gets your gun, it won't do them any good because it can't be fired. There are other reasonable proposals out there too.

Jack, I am more concerned with the 1100+ people killed during the same time frame. The number of deaths by guns is miniscule to the number of deaths by auto.

This up tick in gun deaths is just that and they will decrease as long as the copy cat killers keep taking their own lives. The number of auto accident deaths never seem to decrease.

[Anon]

Redneck wrote:

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Jack, I am more concerned with the 1100+ people killed during the same time frame. The number of deaths by guns is miniscule to the number of deaths by auto.
This up tick in gun deaths is just that and they will decrease as long as the copy cat killers keep taking their own lives. The number of auto accident deaths never seem to decrease.

Hey dude, saying something DOES NOT make it true. Real Americans aren't falling for that trick again.

It took less than 1-minute's research to find you're claim was false.

"While motor-vehicle deaths dropped 22 percent from 2005 to 2010, gun fatalities are rising again after a low point in 2000, according to the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Shooting deaths in 2015 will probably rise to almost 33,000, and those related to autos will decline to about 32,000, based on the 10-year average trend."

Kind of firms up why the NRA blocked any gun injury or death data collection laws don't it. There are flat out a terrorist organization as far as millions of us are concerned.

Anyway, there is no correlation between guns and cars. That's apples and oranges.

So please, for the good of the county, quit blowing smoke and work towards fixing this mess.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-19/amer...

[Jack]

Anon wrote:

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Hey dude, saying something DOES NOT make it true. Real Americans aren't falling for that trick again.
It took less than 1-minute's research to find you're claim was false.
"While motor-vehicle deaths dropped 22 percent from 2005 to 2010, gun fatalities are rising again after a low point in 2000, according to the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Shooting deaths in 2015 will probably rise to almost 33,000, and those related to autos will decline to about 32,000, based on the 10-year average trend."
Kind of firms up why the NRA blocked any gun injury or death data collection laws don't it. There are flat out a terrorist organization as far as millions of us are concerned.
Anyway, there is no correlation between guns and cars. That's apples and oranges.
So please, for the good of the county, quit blowing smoke and work towards fixing this mess.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-19/amer...

Well said! Apples and oranges is correct.

This gun mess we've got ourselves in is a correctable, manageable problem. There won't be quick fix, but the quicker we get started the better. Some states and the fed are considering mandatory insurance for gun owners. On the surface, it sounds like a good idea too.

[Redneck]

I was responding to Jacks post and the 1100+ was from the original poster statement that that number of people had died in auto crashes during the time of the gun deaths in his post.

The following is from answers.com (wiki)

"Every year just over 30,000 people die in the US from gunshot wounds.

Approximately 8,000 homicides annually occur with gunshot wounds. About 16,000 commit suicide with handguns. Nearly 1,000 die in gun related accidents each year. The number of persons shot by police is slightly elusive."

In 2010 there were 32,885 deaths attributed to vehicle crashs.

I don't see the need for an increase in gun regulations or reduction in firearm ownership.

[Jack]

Redneck wrote:

I don't see the need for an increase in gun regulations or reduction in firearm ownership.

I disagree. When you see a train wreck coming, you take action to minimize the damage. Gun deaths and shootings in this country are spiraling out of control. The problem cannot be left unchecked. There are numerous actions which will help minimize the problem, regulations and reductions being only two. And until the Supreme Court provides a reinterpretation of "well regulated militia" which I believe they will, we've got to take action.

Colorado is on the verge of passing some sensible gun laws and restrictions today or tomorrow. Other states have as well. More will follow.

[anon]

Jack wrote:

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I disagree. When you see a train wreck coming, you take action to minimize the damage. Gun deaths and shootings in this country are spiraling out of control. The problem cannot be left unchecked. There are numerous actions which will help minimize the problem, regulations and reductions being only two. And until the Supreme Court provides a reinterpretation of "well regulated militia" which I believe they will, we've got to take action.
Colorado is on the verge of passing some sensible gun laws and restrictions today or tomorrow. Other states have as well. More will follow.

amen.

[Redneck]

I guess we are just gonna have to agree to disagree.

In my opinion a armed society is a free society.

When seconds count the police are minutes away! No truer words were ever said.

[Dr_Lecter]

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"- by Burke, Edmund.

[Moreno Jay]

That's exactly why all good men should be armed and carrying at all times.

[anon]

Moreno Jay wrote:

That's exactly why all good men should be armed and carrying at all times.

fortunately there little fella, the vast majority of men and women have good brains and therefore feel no compulsion such as yourself to act like a child and play cops and robbers with real guns in the public on a daily basis.

[Really]

anon wrote:

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fortunately there little fella, the vast majority of men and women have good brains and therefore feel no compulsion such as yourself to act like a child and play cops and robbers with real guns in the public on a daily basis.

Well anon, I can say from personal experience that it had saved my life. Cops are never close enough when you need them. Everything boils down to responsibility and respect. Just because you have no interest doesn't mean others don't. Hold people responsible for their actions not the tools.

[anon]

Really wrote:

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Well anon, I can say from personal experience that it had saved my life. Cops are never close enough when you need them. Everything boils down to responsibility and respect. Just because you have no interest doesn't mean others don't. Hold people responsible for their actions not the tools.

well in my sixty some years all over the world i've never had the need for gun although in the military i shot plenty. and thinking of my entire family, aunts uncles grands etc, plus all our friends, i can't recall any of them ever telling me a story of them needing or pulling a gun to solve something. so i'd have to say your story is the exception.

that said, georgia population is 9,919,945 as of july 2012 and there were approximately 600,000 concealed weapon permits at that time. using this calculator, that means only 1.53 percent of georgians feel the compulsion to carry a gun in daily life. so i'll still with my story of the vast majority of men and women have good brains and don't need to carry to prove anything.

like the man said at the beginning, there are too many guns around and a minority vocal few opposing much needed change.

[Really]

anon wrote:

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well in my sixty some years all over the world i've never had the need for gun although in the military i shot plenty. and thinking of my entire family, aunts uncles grands etc, plus all our friends, i can't recall any of them ever telling me a story of them needing or pulling a gun to solve something. so i'd have to say your story is the exception.
that said, georgia population is 9,919,945 as of july 2012 and there were approximately 600,000 concealed weapon permits at that time. using this calculator, that means only 1.53 percent of georgians feel the compulsion to carry a gun in daily life. so i'll still with my story of the vast majority of men and women have good brains and don't need to carry to prove anything.
like the man said at the beginning, there are too many guns around and a minority vocal few opposing much needed change.

So based on your biased opinion you take away the rights of others. I don't drink or smoke but have been affected by those that do why don't we take those rights away. Just because someone carries a firearm does not make them brainless or mean that they are trying to prove something. If you are over sixty then you should have seen a thing or two in your day and unless you are some tree huggin hippy then you also know that rights whether you agree with them or not should be respected.