Teen who stole guns sentenced

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A teenager charged with breaking into a Richland gun shop and stealing more than 80 weapons was sentenced to probation this week.

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2light

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Jun 13, 2009
 
Why weren't federal charges also bought against this criminal?
Onlyonesane

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Jun 13, 2009
 
Just as I figured from the beginning - A SLAP ON THE WRIST!!!!! SICK,SICK,SICK. And why do we have soooo many crimes. I would guess because the wonderful judicial system that we live by lets criminals do it and get away with it. Who did the boys or parents know in the court house to get off so easy? Really makes me wonder!!!! Really good judgement by Eby. We need REAL judges to give REAL consiquences for actions and not slaps on the wrist, no matter how old you are. Nice to see Eby is at least making one graduate, so maybe he can be smarter next time when he does a crime. This judicial system sucks bad!!!!!!!!
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Lancaster, PA

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#3
Jun 13, 2009
 
What do the gun shop owners think of this sentence ?

Ha. When the restitution is paid in full....
THAT will be a NEWS STORY.

Who else is holding their breath ?
josh

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Jun 13, 2009
 
2light wrote:
Why weren't federal charges also bought against this criminal?
he was a minor when it happend, and Federal Statutes dont apply to minors
josh

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Jun 14, 2009
 
You have got to be kidding!! Stealing 80 guns to sell on the street burglary, conspiracy,theft , receiving stolen property,and possession of firearms and he gets prohbation, he should have gotten 20 years.No wonder crimanls come to lebanon county and are crime rate is going through the roof . Its because of judges like this!!Judge eby you need to resign you have totally lost touch with reality!!!!!!
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Jun 14, 2009
 
Probation??? Seriously?? WOW!!!! No one needs to wonder why this world is the way it is!!!! Among other punishments he should never be allowed to purchase OR own Firearms...EVER...PERIOD!!!!!
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Jun 15, 2009
 
josh wrote:
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he was a minor when it happend, and Federal Statutes dont apply to minors
And WHAT exactly does in this case - obviously NOTHING!!!! I've seen kids do crimes way less than this and had a harsher consiquence. Again - it just goes to show how screwed up our system is. Let the crime rate rise - way to go!!
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Jun 15, 2009
 
scizzorchik wrote:
Probation??? Seriously?? WOW!!!! No one needs to wonder why this world is the way it is!!!! Among other punishments he should never be allowed to purchase OR own Firearms...EVER...PERIOD!!!!!
No kidding - EXACTLY why the world is the way it is!!! And yeah - good point - what about never being allowed to purchase or own a firearm? I guess Eby thinks why bother because he'll steal or get one in another way any way - so why not just hand it to him. People learn by having to face and deal with an actual REAL consiquence - they DON'T learn by a slap on the wrist.
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Jun 15, 2009
 
If this kid's last name was Gonzales he would never see the light of day again
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Jun 15, 2009
 
Eby asked Parker what he thought people would do with the stolen guns once they reached the streets.

-No response to this? Why even put it...

“There are consequences for what you do,” Eby told Parker.

-Yeah the kid found out the consequence...He has to sit in his house for 90 days!!!! Then he has to see a PO every so often! Damn the harshness!!!!!!

In addition to his sentence, Eby ordered Parker to remain in school and graduate. If he does not complete that requirement, it will be considered a probation violation, and Parker will be sent to jail, Eby said.

-Hmm, steal 80 guns you get probation... But if you don't finish school and graduate; JAIL!!!! HAHAHA!!!!!!! WHAT A F!@$ING JOKE!!!! I am definitely not one to write congressman or political figures (probably because its a waste of paper and my time) but this needs something... This judicial system is a joke!! I don't care if the kid was 10 damn years old, he needs a maximum punishment through the federal government, not this piddly s!@t that Lebanon county is giving him. You don't steal 80 frickin guns with the best of intentions! You stole them to do harm. He should be charged with 80 counts of accessory to a probable homicide!!!! STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!
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Jun 15, 2009
 
Oh and to Racism, shut the hell up. The same ridiculousness would have happened no matter what!!! You douche bag...
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Jun 15, 2009
 
So much stupidity on this forum.

First, the judge sentences based on a plea bargain negotiated by the district attorney's office. The D.A. routinely consults with the victims during negotiations.

Second, there were three people involved in this situation. Two of them broke into the store and took the guns. This guy was a driver who apparently didn't enter the building.

Third, judges are restricted in sentencing by state sentencing guidelines, set by the legislature. If they go outside the guidelines, the sentence is subject to appeal.

Fourth, sentencing this guy now gives the D.A. additional leverage against the other juvenile and the adult involved.

You legal experts should go watch another episode of Judge Judy or Law and Order.
Chatty Cathy

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Jun 15, 2009
 
One can only hope he, and others like him, make(s) the mistake of entering the wrong building at the wrong hour and meets destiny there. As far as being a minor, may his actions speak for themselves. Even trash knows its trash and wrong is wrong, but he didn't. Was he waiting at the Dairy Queent window in the car, or waiting for the spoils of a crime? Damend well right he knew. If someone had been killed would it still be ok for a minor to steal and claim the "I was a kid" defense? Perhaps if he stolen the virginity of someones daughter, the state sentencing guidelines would have prevented his purchasing of Viagra for 90 days...a fitting punishement.
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Jun 15, 2009
 
here is a solution everyone will whine about. STOP PRODUCING HANDGUNS!!!!!!! Only people who should be armed with handguns are police and registered carriers. There are currently in production, enough guns to arm every man woman and child in the entire world twice over. Why? Because it's a job to manufacture the weapons and we wouldn't want to get rid of jobs? If you're a hunter, you don't need a handgun, you need a rifle, not an automatic, high powered weapon, a single shell shotgun is sufficient if you're any good at hunting. Hell my ancestors hunted with sticks and rocks and they ate pretty well. If you can't kill a deer with a single shell shotgun, you shouldn't be in posession of a weapon.
Stop manufacturing guns, stop media glorification of them, stop acting like Charleton Heston was some supreme leader of a revolutionary nation, and get a grip. To the kid who stole the guns, nice work, good effort. To the judge, you're a moron, stop pussyfootin around with our lebanon county criminals. To the people who just find something to say to make themselves feel good, open your mind and look at where the problem starts instead of the end result.
Racism

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Jun 15, 2009
 
I hate politics wrote:
Oh and to Racism, shut the hell up. The same ridiculousness would have happened no matter what!!! You douche bag...
Would you still call me a Douche bag if you knew I was white. Ya' all are racist pigs the whole Lebanon county white kid gets off with slap on the wrist welcome to the 1950's. Racist I tell ya. Racist!
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Jun 15, 2009
 
think about this wrote:
So much stupidity on this forum.
First, the judge sentences based on a plea bargain negotiated by the district attorney's office. The D.A. routinely consults with the victims during negotiations.
Second, there were three people involved in this situation. Two of them broke into the store and took the guns. This guy was a driver who apparently didn't enter the building.
Third, judges are restricted in sentencing by state sentencing guidelines, set by the legislature. If they go outside the guidelines, the sentence is subject to appeal.
Fourth, sentencing this guy now gives the D.A. additional leverage against the other juvenile and the adult involved.
You legal experts should go watch another episode of Judge Judy or Law and Order.
Boy your a quick one! I don't care if the kid was sitting in the car reading a dora the explorer book, he is guilty just the same!!!! The whole judicial system is messed up not just the judge. However, good attempt at being so well versed on the legal system. It's a "no sh!t stupid" remark that should be used at this point in time...
Racism wrote:
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Would you still call me a Douche bag if you knew I was white. Ya' all are racist pigs the whole Lebanon county white kid gets off with slap on the wrist welcome to the 1950's. Racist I tell ya. Racist!
Yes, I would definitely still call you a douche bag. Beside the obvious reason of you really being a douche, it is you and everyone else like you that (no matter what color, creed, or ethnicity you are) wants to instantaneously cry racism constantly. You are more of a douche bag because you think that I would change my thought because you are white... What the hell does that matter? Oh I see, your trying to say that I assumed you were not white, because only people who are not white cry about racism. Douche bag I tell ya, Douche bag!!!!
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Jun 15, 2009
 
I hate politics wrote:
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Boy your a quick one! I don't care if the kid was sitting in the car reading a dora the explorer book, he is guilty just the same!!!! The whole judicial system is messed up not just the judge. However, good attempt at being so well versed on the legal system. It's a "no sh!t stupid" remark that should be used at this point in time...
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Yes, I would definitely still call you a douche bag. Beside the obvious reason of you really being a douche, it is you and everyone else like you that (no matter what color, creed, or ethnicity you are) wants to instantaneously cry racism constantly. You are more of a douche bag because you think that I would change my thought because you are white... What the hell does that matter? Oh I see, your trying to say that I assumed you were not white, because only people who are not white cry about racism. Douche bag I tell ya, Douche bag!!!!
And you are an even Douche Bag because I am just screwing with people here becuase of the fact that someone always cries racism, your reply to my post only makes you King of the Douche Bags.

I bow to you your Highness..Sorry...Your Douchness
Racism

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Jun 15, 2009
 
Sorry left out BIGGER, I'm sure we understand each other

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OnlyOneSane

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Jun 15, 2009
 
think about this wrote:
So much stupidity on this forum.
First, the judge sentences based on a plea bargain negotiated by the district attorney's office. The D.A. routinely consults with the victims during negotiations.
Second, there were three people involved in this situation. Two of them broke into the store and took the guns. This guy was a driver who apparently didn't enter the building.
Third, judges are restricted in sentencing by state sentencing guidelines, set by the legislature. If they go outside the guidelines, the sentence is subject to appeal.
Fourth, sentencing this guy now gives the D.A. additional leverage against the other juvenile and the adult involved.
You legal experts should go watch another episode of Judge Judy or Law and Order.
Thats the problem - there is to much legal bullshit which is NOTHING but bullshit. Straight and narrow - they did a crime - they knew what they ALL where doing and willing (which should be EQUAL punishment)- now they should pay. All us taxpayers do is pay these idiots to make up these ridiculous laws and levels in the system which is absolutely unnecessary. Sounds your one of those legal experts that has that unnecessary job.
Chatty Cathy

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Jun 15, 2009
 
LostThruTranslation wrote:
here is a solution everyone will whine about. STOP PRODUCING HANDGUNS!!!!!!! Only people who should be armed with handguns are police and registered carriers. There are currently in production, enough guns to arm every man woman and child in the entire world twice over. Why? Because it's a job to manufacture the weapons and we wouldn't want to get rid of jobs? If you're a hunter, you don't need a handgun, you need a rifle, not an automatic, high powered weapon, a single shell shotgun is sufficient if you're any good at hunting. Hell my ancestors hunted with sticks and rocks and they ate pretty well. If you can't kill a deer with a single shell shotgun, you shouldn't be in posession of a weapon.
Stop manufacturing guns, stop media glorification of them, stop acting like Charleton Heston was some supreme leader of a revolutionary nation, and get a grip. To the kid who stole the guns, nice work, good effort. To the judge, you're a moron, stop pussyfootin around with our lebanon county criminals. To the people who just find something to say to make themselves feel good, open your mind and look at where the problem starts instead of the end result.
I'll open my mind if you go get one. I'll drivecthe car and wait for you to break in and steal one. Stop handgun manufacture. Lets see, no guns manufactured, no morons to break in and take them...brilliant. Oh, hunting with SEMI-automatic weapons is already restricted in PA. Uh, I use handgun to HUNT. Crawl back into the hole you came from and start thinking. Not one gun in that store left on its own and not one gun in that store moved on its own. You make me sick with your making of liberal, dumbass coentary when those who committed the crime are responsible for their own actions. I guess you are not responsible for how dumb a retort you offered...your parents are for not supporting aborton of an obviously flawed fetus. I think we should stop manufacturing condoms...Jeezzzz

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