Gambling battle lines drawn

Gambling battle lines drawn

There are 29 comments on the Berkshire Eagle story from Mar 31, 2010, titled Gambling battle lines drawn. In it, Berkshire Eagle reports that:

More than a thousand union workers packed the Statehouse on Wednesday to urge lawmakers to legalize casinos, saying they will bring desperately needed jobs to Massachusetts.

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tell the truth

Troy, NY

#1 Apr 1, 2010
I would like to see a survey of 100 buses leaving Foxwoods and Mohegan sun to see how many people did not lose every penny they brought with them. I am pretty sure it is near 100%. But supporters would never allow an honest survey of this nature.
DISCOURAGED

AOL

#2 Apr 1, 2010
I truly resent when other people attempt to "protect" me by denying me a perfectly legitimate activity. If there is the possibility of some people becoming problem gamblers, I maintain that this is their problem, not the government's, and certainly not to the extent that gambling is denied to everyone else. As Julie van Gestel said, "If people want to gamble, they’re going to gamble." Would they say the same about the sales of alcohol? Of course not! Yet there are millions of problem drinkers out in the world, posing a danger when driving. I'm all grown up now, and it should be left to me to decide whether to gamble or not.
Looking For Sympathy

Hartford, CT

#3 Apr 1, 2010
More than a thousand union workers packed the Statehouse on Wednesday to urge lawmakers to legalize casinos, saying they will bring desperately needed jobs to Massachusetts.

There you have it, folks! 10% unemployment, people aren't spending, but lets go ahead & build 2 casinos so we can put a 1,000 union hacks to work. And, whose asses will the hacks be wiping, sniveling & groveling for their next tip?

You know, maybe that is poetic justice!
curious

Enfield, CT

#4 Apr 1, 2010
wasn't the lottery supposed to be the panacea for shortfalls in revenue yet our school systems are in shambles financially, the conditions or our roads is horrible at best....but we keep betting that betting will solve our economic issues.
Ghost

Albany, NY

#5 Apr 1, 2010
I wish we'd get a casino or two in the Berkshires. It would help our failing economy. We already have no mills or factories left. Crane plans on down sizing. What is left in the Berkshires, but drugs and crime. Bring in two or three casinos and the hotels and theatre venues. So, people gamble everywhere anyhow. Let them gamble here. If people want to gamble, we shouldn't limit them to the state lotteries and jumping on a bus any night of the week, to go to Foxwoods and Mohican Sun. They make the $$, not the people who live here. Fix our roads and put good teachers in our schools from the tax revenues from the casinos. This has been a bitter battle since they ended gambling in the state decades ago, when it was run by the Mob.

BRING US CASINOS AND JOBS! STOP GAMBLING OUT OF STATE!
How about this

Berne, NY

#6 Apr 1, 2010
Instead of building casinos, just raise taxes on the retired, people on disability and other economically disadvantaged groups. They are the ones who lose their shirts gambling anyway. Put the money directly into the government's hands and eliminate the Indian middlemen.
you got it

Woodbury, CT

#7 Apr 1, 2010
the native americans don't have to follow federal or state laws on their own property - this means workers get screwed with no protections such as FMLA.
Another County Heard From

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#8 Apr 1, 2010
Oh for gosh sakes. Leave it in the hands of the people. Let's vote on it and stop trying to protect us from ourselves.
Nothing is perfect. I don't think it is a magic cure for the Commonwealth's economy, but many people will be able to get jobs in the construction phase. That will certainly be a financial boost for them and their families. Other jobs such as food service, security, housekeeping, maintainence, accounting, customer service etc, will be forever. Not to mention the health benefits that they will be receiving.
Yes,gambling can be a problem for some people.There is no denying that. But, this is a choice that we as free citizens should make and no one else.
Lousy odds

Montague, MA

#9 Apr 1, 2010
I've seen Vegas-style casinos; huge, showy, brightly lit establishments. I've seen their poor cousins on reservations in New Mexico/Arizona; squalid and run-down places.

Is there anyone here who doubts which kind of casino we would see in Western Mass.

Keep your casinos. Elsewhere.
histo

Haydenville, MA

#10 Apr 1, 2010
lets allow casinos in mass, limit the number of casinos in the state and use them to create economys in the struggling mill towns. Citys like Holyoke could really use the casino $ to try to clean up.

As for the union workers, they need to look at there wages if they want to get back to work. If you cut the union wages back then your open up more projects. Union contractors can only do large projects because the wages of there workers cant be supported by little projects. This create a problematic cycle, large union contractors eat up all the middle size jobs to stay in buisness, this forces the middle size union contractor to have drop down to smaller jobs, these small jobs put them in direct compatition with non-union contractors. So over time the big contractors spread thin over small jobs the middle contractors die and the non-union fill in the niches left behind.
PEDA casino

Amherst, NH

#11 Apr 1, 2010
Make the Pittsfield Economic Development Authority land into a great casino with a golf course, swimming pool, and hotels with restaurants that sell Teo's hot dogs!
- Jonathan Melle
cant hurt

Troy, NY

#12 Apr 1, 2010
PEDA casino wrote:
Make the Pittsfield Economic Development Authority land into a great casino with a golf course, swimming pool, and hotels with restaurants that sell Teo's hot dogs!
- Jonathan Melle
why not? Pittsfield is at the bottom now and can only go up. thanks Jim for all you have done in the last six years.
Sad Otis Resident

Westland, MI

#13 Apr 1, 2010
Just wondering when Mass. will wake up. Remeber the blue laws?
DISCOURAGED

AOL

#14 Apr 1, 2010
How about this wrote:
Instead of building casinos, just raise taxes on the retired, people on disability and other economically disadvantaged groups. They are the ones who lose their shirts gambling anyway. Put the money directly into the government's hands and eliminate the Indian middlemen.
I beg to differ. I spent several years working in the Casino Credit Office at Foxwoods. The people who do the most gambling, hence the most losing, are not the penny-ante spenders such as average retired people. It's the business owners, out of towners, even out of country people visiting. I've seen that sort of gambler lose up to $3 million in one year! It certainly wasn't the retired, disabled folks who left all the money behind to build and maintain that joint. The retired people take a bus down there 3 times a year. The rest of the time, they spend their small amounts on scratch and lottery tickets. Again, let's keep the government out of our entertainment venues. Of course, the owners of casinos, whoever they'd be, would pay taxes, which would shore up the shortfall here in MA. As to the Indians running the casinos, trust me, they certainly know how to do it by now, and it's much better than letting the thugs from Boston, RI, NY and Vegas get their hands into it.

Since: Mar 10

United States

#15 Apr 1, 2010
Why not keep the money in our state? You people that are against casino's are the ones with the problems. You don't need to go to them! Just think of all of the busses everyday heading to Ct. Why not have the people stay here in Ma. This state has the highest scratch ticket sales in the US. Move this into a casino and if you want to go and gamble, it's up to you. I would like to see the casino's here in Ma. then our people giving it to CT. any day. Smarten up people!!!
Low Roller

Hoosick Falls, NY

#16 Apr 2, 2010
the lottery and all gambling is a tax on stupidity
Reality check

Berne, NY

#17 Apr 2, 2010
DISCOURAGED wrote:
<quoted text>
I beg to differ. I spent several years working in the Casino Credit Office at Foxwoods. The people who do the most gambling, hence the most losing, are not the penny-ante spenders such as average retired people. It's the business owners, out of towners, even out of country people visiting. I've seen that sort of gambler lose up to $3 million in one year! It certainly wasn't the retired, disabled folks who left all the money behind to build and maintain that joint. The retired people take a bus down there 3 times a year. The rest of the time, they spend their small amounts on scratch and lottery tickets. Again, let's keep the government out of our entertainment venues. Of course, the owners of casinos, whoever they'd be, would pay taxes, which would shore up the shortfall here in MA. As to the Indians running the casinos, trust me, they certainly know how to do it by now, and it's much better than letting the thugs from Boston, RI, NY and Vegas get their hands into it.
How many of the down and outers even know where the credit office is? It's no wonder you only saw people with means. It's a known fact that the vast majority of the casino's money comes from people who can ill afford to lose it. Get real!
Lousy odds

Easthampton, MA

#18 Apr 3, 2010
DISCOURAGED wrote:
<quoted text>
I beg to differ. I spent several years working in the Casino Credit Office at Foxwoods. The people who do the most gambling, hence the most losing, are not the penny-ante spenders such as average retired people. It's the business owners, out of towners, even out of country people visiting. I've seen that sort of gambler lose up to $3 million in one year! It certainly wasn't the retired, disabled folks who left all the money behind to build and maintain that joint. The retired people take a bus down there 3 times a year. The rest of the time, they spend their small amounts on scratch and lottery tickets. Again, let's keep the government out of our entertainment venues. Of course, the owners of casinos, whoever they'd be, would pay taxes, which would shore up the shortfall here in MA. As to the Indians running the casinos, trust me, they certainly know how to do it by now, and it's much better than letting the thugs from Boston, RI, NY and Vegas get their hands into it.
Discouraged, you're the closest to a casino 'insider' I've heard from. Do you have any information on how much Connecticut makes from the casinos there?

Since: Jun 08

Mechanicville, NY

#19 Apr 3, 2010
If one want's to give their money away go to the casino's..They will be happy to take it.
disgusted

Dracut, MA

#20 Apr 3, 2010
No on Casinos... Corruption all the way...

bad enough we are dealing with high taxes.. but now they want to bring corruption into the state with casinos...

Where is President John F. Kennedy.. He did it all right...

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