One mom vs. junk food

One mom vs. junk food

There are 67 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Mar 9, 2008, titled One mom vs. junk food. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Susan Pag n is the mom who took on fast-food giant McDonald's -- and won. The Winter Springs woman complained that McDonald's ads on Seminole's elementary school report cards, which offered free meals for good ...

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cgw

United States

#70 Mar 14, 2008
BLANTONA1 wrote:
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Yeah, I actually thought that to begin with. The woman that raised such a ruckus probably got mad because her kids didn't get one so she's gonna make sure none of the kids get it. So, instead of using it to reinforce the need to do well in school....she just ruins it for everyone. SAD.
Oh, I think it's pretty obvious that the woman is smart, so her kids are likely to be smart, too. At least they now know that the school's job is to educate, not to advertise.:)

Do you seriously believe that Happy Meals(TM) are needed to reinforce the need to do well in school? Most schools find other ways to provide that reinforcement.
Chow

El Paso, TX

#71 Mar 14, 2008
BLANTONA1 wrote:
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I agree with you on those points. I'm not sure who is in charge of working with different retailers/organizations but as you said, I'm sure there are others who would be willing to step up and offer something else. I LOVE the idea of The Yearling vs. field trip. Wish more teachers would try this type of incentive.
However I disagree about the soda machines. The difference between soda machines in school and this situation is that the kids have UNLIMITED access to those machines whereas the happy meal coupons were given to the kids only 3-4 times a year and only if they earned them. So you couldn't walk into Mc'Ds with all f's on your report card and get a happy meal....with the machines any kid with a buck could have one at will. I personally think they should put in the machines but only offer fruit juices or waters....kids will still buy them, it's a vending machine thing that kids have....seems it's irresistible to them:)
How crazy were those people that think the cop should just stand there and let ANYONE hit him?
I stand corrected on the soda machine argument. Although I agree with CGW that advertising junk foods in school is not a great idea on principle alone. I'm trying real hard to teach my kids not to associate food as rewards because this may cause eating disorders later in life. When my kids would come home with the fast food coupon (we get them 8 times a year), I would allow them to trade it in for a trip to Target/Walmart to buy a toy or arts supplies. I'm lucky that my kids are easily persuaded but it costs me a lot more (time/money) to choose this option. Not every parent can be in my position. Therefore, I still can see the point of view of the contesting parent in the article.

pss. I totally agree. If a woman is irrational enough to hit a cop, she has no business being on the road. He probably did her a favor. Some people need to be saved from themselves. I know he is protecting and serving all the other drivers out there who will no longer be in danger of her driving.
BLANTONA1

Winter Garden, FL

#72 Mar 14, 2008
cgw wrote:
I had already read the comments, and I believe that woman had a good point. Schools do not need to give out candy. A good teacher would prioritize the needs of every student in the class over the wants of some.(Though I admit I have never heard of a sugar allergy before, and I personally wouldn't constrain other parents who want to send in candy w/their kids.)
Schools do not need to advertise for McDonald's. When I was a kid, we didn't get junk food from our teachers and we didn't get ads for McDonald's or pizza or whatever company wanted a captive audience to shill to. We got an education anyway.
Schools are entirely unlike restaurants, so that analogy doesn't persuade me.
I am not sure why you (or anyone) would get so upset by someone's not wanting the school to advertise for a junk food company. Like I said, feed your kids whatever you want. I truly don't think it is my business. And I'm sure you are a thoughtful, excellent parent--I can tell from what you've written here, if nothing else.
It just isn't the school's job to advertise junk to students.
You're right, the schools don't NEED to hand out candy. They also don't NEED to hand out food coupons. However, both are good incentives for children, if done on a restricted basis.

I can't believe that throughout school you never had a teacher who upon having a really good day with the kids or upon the class reaching some goal, did not pass out a piece of candy to your class. I had it happen several times throughout school and I don't think I am really worse for wear.

I don't have the problem with a mother who does not wish her children to be exposed to advertising....lord knows, with 4 kids I'm inundated with it. What I do have a problem with is that this woman PREVIOUSLY stated she didn't want to have to argue with her kids about it when she said no. In other words she doesn't want to step up and be the parent and stick by the choices SHE has made for her children. I feel she has USED "advertising" as the scape goat for her unwillingness to parent and in the process cost the taxpayers the printing costs, cost the kids a relatively harmless incentive (3-4 times a year). They only get them every nine weeks, and there is 36 "school" weeks a year.

As another poster stated, there are certainly BETTER things the school could offer, maybe they couldn't get any of the retailers to offer anything, I don't know.

This coupon didn't just supply the kid with food, it made that kid think they were doing so well that even the school noticed. For a kid (especially the younger ones) thrown into such a large environment, and feeling like a speck, that recognition had to feel great. It instilled pride and self esteem. It puts them on the path of understand that it is a good thing to do well in school. And now, because of one woman's refusal to accept HER responsibilities....who knows how long if ever again, the school will even try this type of program because the sad fact is....you can't please all the people all the time, no matter what someone will complain.
BLANTONA1

Winter Garden, FL

#73 Mar 14, 2008
Chow wrote:
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I stand corrected on the soda machine argument. Although I agree with CGW that advertising junk foods in school is not a great idea on principle alone. I'm trying real hard to teach my kids not to associate food as rewards because this may cause eating disorders later in life. When my kids would come home with the fast food coupon (we get them 8 times a year), I would allow them to trade it in for a trip to Target/Walmart to buy a toy or arts supplies. I'm lucky that my kids are easily persuaded but it costs me a lot more (time/money) to choose this option. Not every parent can be in my position. Therefore, I still can see the point of view of the contesting parent in the article.
pss. I totally agree. If a woman is irrational enough to hit a cop, she has no business being on the road. He probably did her a favor. Some people need to be saved from themselves. I know he is protecting and serving all the other drivers out there who will no longer be in danger of her driving.
I too try not to associate rewards with foods. But I also think the school had good intentions with this program and as I stated to CGW who knows when, if ever, the schools will even attempt another program as I'm sure much work goes into it and with fcat....who has the time? Not to mention, once they've been burned, they are not likely to even try as they can't possibly please everyone.

I too have a problem with advertisements (don't get me started on piping music/advertisements onto buses) talk about a captive audience....parents can't throw that away :(

The problem I have with this parent is her original statement was she didn't want to tell her kids no when they brought them home. So, she doesn't want to be the parent. Her children will be exposed regardless and this fight WILL come about....all she has done is put off the inevitable at the expense of all. Now that she is the "spotlight" article....it's all about advertising and health....but she will take her kids to subway. Go figure.

pss. Just a shame that someone whom I'm sure is a lovely lady had to have this type of incident happen before anyone noticed she was having problems. I loved the response from the "old goats" :)
Heather

Southampton, UK

#74 May 26, 2008
Rewards are linked with food too much. Even something simple as finish your dinner and you can have desert is in a sense rewarding children with food for eating. Food needs to be treated more like feul and nobody is saying it can't still be enjoyable.
Ciara

Cork, Ireland

#75 Nov 21, 2008
I read earlier that the school had a fundraiser in Mc Donalds. Ive heard it all now ! There shouldn't have to be fundraising for such a basic necessity as education. Particularly in a country which gives water for free. We have our priorities wrong. Anyway from what I see its generally the poorer classes who tend to eat fast food and buy pre prepared meals. The ones who can least afford it and who are too lazy to cook.

Since: Jul 10

United States

#76 Jul 31, 2010
Seems like the junk food restaurants never promise what they advertise anyway. Look at this
http://foodequalslife.com/food/fast-junk-food...

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