Jury Selection Starts Today In Cheshire Slayings

Jan 19, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Hartford Courant

Jury selection will begin this morning at Superior Court in New Haven in the trial of Steven Hayes , 46, of Winsted .

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“God not a religion, but life”

Since: Mar 09

New England

#1 Jan 20, 2010
Most capital murder trials, take several years to get trial date. So, this isn't off course as mentioned. Didn't know the courts concern peoples personal summer vacations as a reason to delay a trial! With the unemployment at 10% there should be plenty willing to make ($50.) daily tax free to be a juror! Yet not blame President Bush for the delay? Oh, that's right he's not a patsy anymore. Q.Where will the trial be hold? A. New Haven Superior Court. Q. Why separate trials? A. Joshua is younger, has a different MO and took the opportunety to let the world know where he was coming from. He is alot different than Steven. He's articulate, friendly, educated, has a conscience and admits why & what he did wrong, unlike Hayes.
to tell the truth

Southington, CT

#2 Jan 26, 2010
Rena Dean wrote:
Most capital murder trials, take several years to get trial date. So, this isn't off course as mentioned. Didn't know the courts concern peoples personal summer vacations as a reason to delay a trial! With the unemployment at 10% there should be plenty willing to make ($50.) daily tax free to be a juror! Yet not blame President Bush for the delay? Oh, that's right he's not a patsy anymore. Q.Where will the trial be hold? A. New Haven Superior Court. Q. Why separate trials? A. Joshua is younger, has a different MO and took the opportunety to let the world know where he was coming from. He is alot different than Steven. He's articulate, friendly, educated, has a conscience and admits why & what he did wrong, unlike Hayes.
I think Joshua Komisarjevsky dosen't look mean - he looks sad. Steven Hayes does look mean to me.

Despite the fact that Josh dosen't look mean, he delivered (by his own admission) the coup de grace when he set them afire.

I think the reason for the separate trials is to keep the different accounts of the crime from contaminating each other. Criminals are very manipulative and will exploit any loopholes in the accounts.

What I would like to know is what the judge meant by "chilling effects". He redacted stuff to protect the investigation.
What could outchill what we already know?

“God not a religion, but life”

Since: Mar 09

New England

#3 Jan 26, 2010
Where did u read Joshua admitting he lite the match or poured gasoline around? On the contrary it was not his idea or hand that did that to get rid of evidence or witnesses, it was Hayes. Joshua never before physically hurt anyone, he was just a cat burgular. Where Hayes used force to smash & grab. Nevertheless, Joshua admitted clobbering Mr. Petit, which would be attempted murder, assualt & battery, not murder. Hayes is the murderer and Joshua an accomplice. Joshua won't change his story and his story fits and kills Hayes's chance of manipulating his own story to fit.
to tell the truth

Middletown, CT

#4 Jan 27, 2010
Rena Dean wrote:
Where did u read Joshua admitting he lite the match or poured gasoline around? On the contrary it was not his idea or hand that did that to get rid of evidence or witnesses, it was Hayes. Joshua never before physically hurt anyone, he was just a cat burgular. Where Hayes used force to smash & grab. Nevertheless, Joshua admitted clobbering Mr. Petit, which would be attempted murder, assualt & battery, not murder. Hayes is the murderer and Joshua an accomplice. Joshua won't change his story and his story fits and kills Hayes's chance of manipulating his own story to fit.
Maybe you're right. I thought I read that it was in the book that he did that.

If it's true that he wasn't involved in the fire, then I guess you're right - he didn't do the murder. Also I remember the letter he wrote to his daughter that was so tender.

I hope the truth comes out no matter who it favors. God bless the jury.
to tell the truth

Middletown, CT

#5 Jan 27, 2010
Rena Dean wrote:
Most capital murder trials, take several years to get trial date. So, this isn't off course as mentioned. Didn't know the courts concern peoples personal summer vacations as a reason to delay a trial! With the unemployment at 10% there should be plenty willing to make ($50.) daily tax free to be a juror! Yet not blame President Bush for the delay? Oh, that's right he's not a patsy anymore. Q.Where will the trial be hold? A. New Haven Superior Court. Q. Why separate trials? A. Joshua is younger, has a different MO and took the opportunety to let the world know where he was coming from. He is alot different than Steven. He's articulate, friendly, educated, has a conscience and admits why & what he did wrong, unlike Hayes.
There are quite a few interesting comments about the case at nhregister.com .

Since: May 09

Cheshire, CT

#6 Jan 28, 2010
Strangultion- 5 yrs. jail, Execution suspended after 3 yrs. Probation 5 yrs.
Assault= same as above.
Burglary- 3 yrs. execution suspended, probation 5 yrs.
Murder- death
Concerned Cheshirite

AOL

#7 Jan 28, 2010
Rena Dean wrote:
Most capital murder trials, take several years to get trial date. So, this isn't off course as mentioned. Didn't know the courts concern peoples personal summer vacations as a reason to delay a trial! With the unemployment at 10% there should be plenty willing to make ($50.) daily tax free to be a juror! Yet not blame President Bush for the delay? Oh, that's right he's not a patsy anymore. Q.Where will the trial be hold? A. New Haven Superior Court. Q. Why separate trials? A. Joshua is younger, has a different MO and took the opportunety to let the world know where he was coming from. He is alot different than Steven. He's articulate, friendly, educated, has a conscience and admits why & what he did wrong, unlike Hayes.
"Articulate, friendly,educated, has conscience and admits why and what he did wrong."
HUH?
Are you kidding me?
Did you see the charges he is accused of?
Here they are:

One count:
First-degree assault (of William Petit)
First-degree aggravated sexual assault
First-degree burglary
First-degree arson
First-degree conspiracy to commit arson
First-degree robbery
First-degree larceny

Two counts:
Risk of Injury to a Minor
Six counts: Capital Felony
Murder of two or more persons (Hawke-Petit, Hayley, Michaela) at the same time and in the course of a single transaction
Murder of a person under 16 (Michaela Petit)
Murder of a kidnapped person (Hawke-Petit)
Murder of a kidnapped person (Hayley)
Murder of a kidnapped person (Michaela)
Murder of a person during a first-degree sexual assault (Michaela)

Six counts: First-degree kidnapping
Kidnapping of Michaela
Kidnapping of Hayley
Kidnapping of Hawke-Petit (with intention to compel third person to pay or deliver money or property as ransom)
Kidnapping of Hawke-Petit (restrained the person and abducted with the intent to accomplish or advance the commission of a felony)
Kidnapping of Hawke-Petit (restrained the person abducted with intent to terrorize her or a third person)
Kidnapping of William Petit

So the police have all this wrong? He was just an nice guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time??
Give me a break.
He is accused of sexual assault on an 11 year old.
Nothing sicker than that.
Since when do we start believing murders who are facing the death penalty?He was there, he brought this other animal into our town, he is just as much at fault as the oher animal.
I give Dr. Petit a lot of credit for not attacking these animals everytime he sees them in court, not sure I could do that.

These 2 should face the same horrible end that they brought to the Petit women. Nothing less!

“God not a religion, but life”

Since: Mar 09

New England

#8 Feb 3, 2010
Hayes may have diverted your death penalty by being diagnosed in being brain dead or incapable of standing trial. To do justice for Mrs. Petit, who was against the death penalty, abolish this barbaric act.
Concerned Cheshirite

Cheshire, CT

#9 Feb 6, 2010
So much for your insight on what is going on. Obviously you have no clue.
Can't wait till they both fry!
Glad he survived, he must die on our terms, not his.

Stop ranting about Mrs. Petit being against the death penalty. Show me the proof. Don't bring up the ficticious petition that someone said she signed.
Rena

Cheshire, CT

#10 Feb 6, 2010
Concerned Cheshirite wrote:
So much for your insight on what is going on. Obviously you have no clue.
Can't wait till they both fry!
Glad he survived, he must die on our terms, not his.
Stop ranting about Mrs. Petit being against the death penalty. Show me the proof. Don't bring up the ficticious petition that someone said she signed.
Everyone knows about Mrs. Petit signed and promoted No Death and encouraged visits to inmates through the Cheshire United Methodist Church on Academy Rd. There's a good possiblity that Hayley sign it,ntoo. Seems as though u think by killing Joshua & Hayes will be a conclusion and everything will be finished. Two negitives - doesn't equal = a positive +. This burden of killing is on ur head, a short lived feeling of satisfaction, just like the two murders. Times of this kind of punishment r changing. Even juriors don't want this on their conscience.
Cal Guy

AOL

#11 Feb 15, 2010
While there is a lot of thought going on about the attempted suicide of Steven Hayes, I see some remarks seeping in about Joshua Komisarjevsky being a "not mean" guy who was just a cat burglar. I do want to see Steven suffer and fry for his unfathomable brutality. However, I also believe that Joshua is as guilty of all of this, and is trying to look like the sad guy who was just a cat burglar who was in the killings. In fact, Joshua is worse than Steven ... by his own account in the book where he spoonfed his views to an author in an effort to manipulate public opinion into thinking that he is not as gulity as Steven, it is clear that the horrific crime was in fact his idea. It was Joshua who spotted Jennifer and Michaela in the grocery shop, and who devised his heinous plans to Steven, as soon as Steven called his cellphone. In fact, it was an instantaneous plan ... as soon as he saw Michaela and felt some liking for her, Joshua immediately answered "Maybe" to Steven about plans that they had for that night. Joshua is the instigator and the evil mastermind of these crimes.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#12 Feb 15, 2010
Cal Guy wrote:
While there is a lot of thought going on about the attempted suicide of Steven Hayes, I see some remarks seeping in about Joshua Komisarjevsky being a "not mean" guy who was just a cat burglar. I do want to see Steven suffer and fry for his unfathomable brutality. However, I also believe that Joshua is as guilty of all of this, and is trying to look like the sad guy who was just a cat burglar who was in the killings. In fact, Joshua is worse than Steven ... by his own account in the book where he spoonfed his views to an author in an effort to manipulate public opinion into thinking that he is not as gulity as Steven, it is clear that the horrific crime was in fact his idea. It was Joshua who spotted Jennifer and Michaela in the grocery shop, and who devised his heinous plans to Steven, as soon as Steven called his cellphone. In fact, it was an instantaneous plan ... as soon as he saw Michaela and felt some liking for her, Joshua immediately answered "Maybe" to Steven about plans that they had for that night. Joshua is the instigator and the evil mastermind of these crimes.
I think that is what is going to be proved at the trial. Joshua seems to me like a developing Ted Bundy. Hayes, even though he has a long criminal record, was little more than a petty thief who did smash and grabs from parked cars to support his crack habit. Joshua, with his various acts of arson, and his Manson Family-like creepy crawling of people's homes during the night seems to be far more dangerous and disturbed. Well, it's going to be up to the jury to decide guilt or innocence, and then to decide if either or both of them will get the death penalty.
Concerned Cheshirite

Cheshire, CT

#13 Feb 15, 2010
Rena wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone knows about Mrs. Petit signed and promoted No Death and encouraged visits to inmates through the Cheshire United Methodist Church on Academy Rd. There's a good possiblity that Hayley sign it,ntoo. Seems as though u think by killing Joshua & Hayes will be a conclusion and everything will be finished. Two negitives - doesn't equal = a positive +. This burden of killing is on ur head, a short lived feeling of satisfaction, just like the two murders. Times of this kind of punishment r changing. Even juriors don't want this on their conscience.
"Everyone knows about Mrs. Petit signed and promoted No Death"

You keep saying this, yet fail to show any proof...please show me how you have so much insight.

Mrs. Petit also had a strong faith and never imagined tat 2 animals would invade her home while she and her family slept. They would brutally beat her husband, rape her and her 11 year old daughter and then tie them to their beds before they lit the house on fire. I guarantee you she would not want anything less then death to these animals.

Please provide some documentation for your rhetoric or stop spouting false statements.
Cal Guy

AOL

#14 Feb 16, 2010
Just another poster wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that is what is going to be proved at the trial. Joshua seems to me like a developing Ted Bundy. Hayes, even though he has a long criminal record, was little more than a petty thief who did smash and grabs from parked cars to support his crack habit. Joshua, with his various acts of arson, and his Manson Family-like creepy crawling of people's homes during the night seems to be far more dangerous and disturbed. Well, it's going to be up to the jury to decide guilt or innocence, and then to decide if either or both of them will get the death penalty.
Yes ... I concur that Joshua Komisarjevsky paints the picture of the evil and remorseless psycoptah who is now trying to hide behind his boyish looks (by trying to flutter sad-looking eyes in his mug shot) and scribbling emoticons in his notes to that author. He was the brains behind the crimes while Steven was the braun. I do hope the jury sees behind his cowardly pretentions. At the end of the day, we have no choice but to let our human and imperfect justice system takes its course. No matter how beastly and animalistic these 2 criminals are, the reality is that our justice system will still treat them as humans ... even if this justice system may seem unjust at times. Nothing will bring the wonderful Petit ladies back to life and our world will forever be darker and sadder because of these two evil criminals. Regardless of these sad facts and even if the death penalty indeed ends up taking decades before it is carried out, I do hope that justice will be rendered and that these two criminals are convicted and exposed to the world for who they are.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#15 Feb 16, 2010
Cal Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes ... I concur that Joshua Komisarjevsky paints the picture of the evil and remorseless psycoptah who is now trying to hide behind his boyish looks (by trying to flutter sad-looking eyes in his mug shot) and scribbling emoticons in his notes to that author. He was the brains behind the crimes while Steven was the braun. I do hope the jury sees behind his cowardly pretentions. At the end of the day, we have no choice but to let our human and imperfect justice system takes its course. No matter how beastly and animalistic these 2 criminals are, the reality is that our justice system will still treat them as humans ... even if this justice system may seem unjust at times. Nothing will bring the wonderful Petit ladies back to life and our world will forever be darker and sadder because of these two evil criminals. Regardless of these sad facts and even if the death penalty indeed ends up taking decades before it is carried out, I do hope that justice will be rendered and that these two criminals are convicted and exposed to the world for who they are.
I believe if you go onto the Hartford Courant website and check the archives, you'll find a transcript of the pre-sentencing report for Joshua Komisarjevsky when he was sentenced for a series of night time burglaries in Central Connecticut. It's really chilling, and when you read it, you can understand his motivations behind the jailhouse interviews and the blaming of Steven Hayes for the murders. The Courant also has pdf files of the search warrants that were issued relative to both accused right after the Petit murders. Even though they are heavily redacted, they are interesting when compared to JK's story to the book author.
CheshireCat

Cheshire, CT

#16 Feb 19, 2010
Burglaries committed during from 6/2001 through 3/2002 was not listed for his arrest. He gave them the dates of all his burglaries when he was arrested for just one burglary. Why, so he could get back to living his life with his daughter & family. His motive was good & clear, sensible and within reason. Ironic to be a honest burglar. Don't to different than being a corrupted policeman. But, this home invasion went wrong with Hayes being involved. Who cares about search warrants when he gave himself up to all his dealings & involvement. On 5/20 the arrests came down on other burglaries he gave them. Then on 5/24/2002 more arrests while in jail, that the detectives had to investigate from his admissions and lastly 11/14/02 while in jail for a 3/1/02 burglary. It's impossibly to be arrested for so many burglaries unless he helped solve & cooperated in the investigations. Same thing with this. He has not reason to lie, but to tell the truth. If jury selection included people who didn't believe in the death penalty, he just might make it to life inprison. but, the jury will be fixed to have only people who have no problem with the death penalty. I call that discrimination & segregation, which is unconstitutional.
Sorghum_Remember s

Cheshire, CT

#17 Feb 19, 2010
CheshireCat wrote:
Burglaries committed during from 6/2001 through 3/2002 was not listed for his arrest. He gave them the dates of all his burglaries when he was arrested for just one burglary. Why, so he could get back to living his life with his daughter & family. His motive was good & clear, sensible and within reason. Ironic to be a honest burglar. Don't to different than being a corrupted policeman. But, this home invasion went wrong with Hayes being involved. Who cares about search warrants when he gave himself up to all his dealings & involvement. On 5/20 the arrests came down on other burglaries he gave them. Then on 5/24/2002 more arrests while in jail, that the detectives had to investigate from his admissions and lastly 11/14/02 while in jail for a 3/1/02 burglary. It's impossibly to be arrested for so many burglaries unless he helped solve & cooperated in the investigations. Same thing with this. He has not reason to lie, but to tell the truth. If jury selection included people who didn't believe in the death penalty, he just might make it to life inprison. but, the jury will be fixed to have only people who have no problem with the death penalty. I call that discrimination & segregation, which is unconstitutional.
Do you understand that this is a capital murder case so the death penalty is a possible punishment?
How could they have someone on the jury who is against the death penalty?

Just because they believe in the death penalty doesn't mean they will give that sentence.

If the judge allowed people who were against the death penalty to be on the jury, that would be wrong.
"Discrimination and segregatio"??Huh??
You can't be that naive can you?
The jury would be fixed if they had 1 person on it who didn't believe in the death penalty. How would they ever be able decide the fair punishment?
Use some common sense here.
CheshireCat

Cheshire, CT

#18 Feb 19, 2010
Sorghum_Remembers wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you understand that this is a capital murder case so the death penalty is a possible punishment?
How could they have someone on the jury who is against the death penalty?
Just because they believe in the death penalty doesn't mean they will give that sentence.
If the judge allowed people who were against the death penalty to be on the jury, that would be wrong.
"Discrimination and segregatio"??Huh??
You can't be that naive can you?
The jury would be fixed if they had 1 person on it who didn't believe in the death penalty. How would they ever be able decide the fair punishment?
Use some common sense here.
Yes, the death penalty is a jot topic and is still used in a some states. A jury is suppose to represent the populous, not bias and if believing in killing criminals instead of life in prison isn't bias to human life, than selection of those who only agree with the death penalty are no better than be killers with no conscience. It's suppose to be made up of ordinary people from the State in which the case in tried and not all people think as you do or me. But the state is excusing people who may not be able to condemn to death. Obviously, a just jury would include these conscious people. Hah back at U! It is uncommon to have all citizens wanting the death penalty or not. Nevertheless, both won't even to be able to hurt anyone again.
Sorghum_Remember s

Cheshire, CT

#19 Feb 20, 2010
CheshireCat wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the death penalty is a jot topic and is still used in a some states. A jury is suppose to represent the populous, not bias and if believing in killing criminals instead of life in prison isn't bias to human life, than selection of those who only agree with the death penalty are no better than be killers with no conscience. It's suppose to be made up of ordinary people from the State in which the case in tried and not all people think as you do or me. But the state is excusing people who may not be able to condemn to death. Obviously, a just jury would include these conscious people. Hah back at U! It is uncommon to have all citizens wanting the death penalty or not. Nevertheless, both won't even to be able to hurt anyone again.
"A just jury would include these conscious people"
??????
Do you understand the law of this state?
How could it be a fair(just) jury if they even had 1 person who, no matter what, would not be able to give the highest punishment allowed by this state?
You are being ignorant to the law...
Can't make it any clearer than that.
Please read up on criminal law and educate yourself so you will stop making ridiculous, unsubstantiated, comments like that.
CheshireCat

Cheshire, CT

#20 Feb 21, 2010
I see it as the lowest degraceful darkest impulse of human nature, not unlike the killer himself. Guilty or not guilty comes before sentencing. A lesser degree could happen, too! It is not uncommon to have a hung jury because of the states death penalty. This could of been all over with, if the prosecuation accepted their plead of guilty for life in prison, but oh no that wasn't good enough. So, here is everything at everyones expense & time. If, Mr. Petit can last through the emotional turmoil, regain his senses of being happy & whole, return to his practice and no one ever kills again because of the death penalty, then killing in CT legally would stand the highest penalty. But, unfortunately, killing someone for killing others doesn't do anything else but tried by war rather than tried by goodness. The cost is mounting. Is it worth it? Worth satisfaction that lasts a short time. The pain, sorrow doesn't heal or over throw it by killing. Meanwhile, the innocent family & love ones of the condemn suffer the same. But what does anyone care about them, or jurors with a conscience? You could say the evil ends up ruling and controlling everyone involved.

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