New Minnesota law to help track missi...

New Minnesota law to help track missing persons faster through cell...

There are 26 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jun 27, 2010, titled New Minnesota law to help track missing persons faster through cell.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A new law taking effect in Minnesota this summer is designed to help local authorities track missing persons faster.

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Jinn4u

Nashville, TN

#1 Jun 27, 2010
"Starting Aug. 1, authorities will get immediate access to a missing person's cell phone records. " Thats Evasion of Privacy, I didn't consent to that. Is this minnesota or russia? maybe
Theresa

Maple Grove, MN

#2 Jun 27, 2010
Jinn4u wrote:
"Starting Aug. 1, authorities will get immediate access to a missing person's cell phone records. " Thats Evasion of Privacy, I didn't consent to that. Is this minnesota or russia? maybe
Get over yourself. If you were missing and in danger, you'd want the authorities to have that info. That girl that went missing didn't give consent to be murdered now did she. There are times when law enforcement need all the help they can get.
Jinn4u

Nashville, TN

#3 Jun 27, 2010
Kelsey Ann Smith (May 3, 1989 – June 2, 2007) was 18 years old when she went missing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kelsey... Cell phones have as an option to turn on a "GPS feature" so they can locate the phone. I fear the gov and cops will abuse this law-to much opportunity. Maybe that is why they are giving free cell phones to poor people to track them.
dum dums

Duluth, MN

#4 Jun 27, 2010
Isn't this an invasion of privacy?
dum dums

Duluth, MN

#5 Jun 27, 2010
Theresa wrote:
<quoted text>Get over yourself. If you were missing and in danger, you'd want the authorities to have that info. That girl that went missing didn't give consent to be murdered now did she. There are times when law enforcement need all the help they can get.
I would never want ANY government authority to have accesst o ANYTHING of mine..
Theresa

Maple Grove, MN

#6 Jun 27, 2010
dum dums wrote:
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I would never want ANY government authority to have accesst o ANYTHING of mine..
Again, if it was you or a loved one missing, what would you want? God forbid you would ever be put in that situation.
Mary

Maple Grove, MN

#7 Jun 27, 2010
Three days is a long time for a loved one to be missing. We need to utilize all of our resources, and as quickly as possible. Look at how effective the amber alert has been. Why are so many of you against this. This is a good tool that may indeed save someone's life.
Theresa

Maple Grove, MN

#8 Jun 27, 2010
dum dums wrote:
Isn't this an invasion of privacy?
I wouldn't consider this an invasion of privacy, if I am missing.
RightOn

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Jun 27, 2010
This is the classic Orwellian concern. These things always start out as being good ideas. Then the devious or power hungry get hold of it and it goes bad and usually big. There was a doctor in the 1860's that wanted to stop the killing in the Civil War. He figured if he could invent a really great gun for the North, they would force the South to surrender. The war ended soon without the gun. His name was Dr. Gatling. That gun spawned all other machine guns which granted helped win WW2 but look at all the other bad uses. This stuff will never stop. Neither will human nature, both the good and the bad. What it comes down to is everyone is on his own.
Hal 9000

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Jun 27, 2010
How many more laws can be made? I guess when everything is illegal then they get to crime you instead of tax you.

Since: Jun 08

Apple Valley, MN

#11 Jun 28, 2010
Calm down people. Like RightOn says, some of the worst things imaginable were started with good intentions.

The supposed reason for this is good, but the devil is in the details as they say. The key to whether this is a good law depends on the legal or bureaucratic hurdles that need to be conquered in order to exercise this new power.

If it's only where there is a documented missing persons report submitted by an immediate relative and that information is not then given that relative I think we might be in good shape.

My biggest concern here would not be the police (heh that's a first!), but an abusive spouse but if the police retain the information and find the person themselves I think we're still on good ground.

Since: Mar 10

STP

#12 Jun 28, 2010
Good Lord, people - freak out a little more! the cops will only have access to your cell records AFTER you go missing. This isnt going to be a free-for-all where any cop can check anyones phone record. Your cell provider will still be the only one with access until you are reported missing.

W-T-H are all of you doing with your cell phones that even if you were to go missing you wouldnt want local police to use your history to find you?!?!?
dum dums

Cook, MN

#13 Jun 28, 2010
Theresa wrote:
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Again, if it was you or a loved one missing, what would you want? God forbid you would ever be put in that situation.
It wouldn't matter who was lost, the government should not be able to force a cell phone company to turn over records for anyone without their perssion or the permission of a legal guardian.
dum dums

Cook, MN

#14 Jun 28, 2010
Theresa wrote:
<quoted text>I wouldn't consider this an invasion of privacy, if I am missing.
I would.

Since: Jun 08

Apple Valley, MN

#15 Jun 28, 2010
lexibone wrote:
Good Lord, people - freak out a little more! the cops will only have access to your cell records AFTER you go missing. This isnt going to be a free-for-all where any cop can check anyones phone record. Your cell provider will still be the only one with access until you are reported missing.
W-T-H are all of you doing with your cell phones that even if you were to go missing you wouldnt want local police to use your history to find you?!?!?
Well I think there is some reason for concern. Even assuming everything you say is correct and that the police and phone companies have only good intentions. Note we're already in fantasy land but let's assume that for this scenario.

A wife, we'll call her Sally, is undergoing a horrific divorce from her abusive husband, let's say Bob. Now Bob has repeatedly made threats against Sally and he has beat her rather badly in the past. He has stalked her in the past but she managed to move in with distant relatives out of state without her husband finding out.

Sally is beginning to think she might be able to make a new start without always worrying that Bob is spying on her waiting for a chance to hurt her. Bob is pissed that she skipped town and he's worried he wont' be able to figure out where she went. So he fills a missing persons report with the local police department. Local police thinks it's perfectly reasonable for a husband to be looking for his wife and she's clearly not in the area.

They get the information and find out where she is. Again, perfectly reasonably, they give the location to Bob, who is playing the role of a distraught and desperate husband. Bob then tracks Sally down and starts his terror again anew.....thanks to a legislature that was just "trying to help".

Since: Mar 10

STP

#16 Jun 28, 2010
kecker wrote:
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Well I think there is some reason for concern. Even assuming everything you say is correct and that the police and phone companies have only good intentions. Note we're already in fantasy land but let's assume that for this scenario.
A wife, we'll call her Sally, is undergoing a horrific divorce from her abusive husband, let's say Bob. Now Bob has repeatedly made threats against Sally and he has beat her rather badly in the past. He has stalked her in the past but she managed to move in with distant relatives out of state without her husband finding out.
Sally is beginning to think she might be able to make a new start without always worrying that Bob is spying on her waiting for a chance to hurt her. Bob is **** that she skipped town and he's worried he wont' be able to figure out where she went. So he fills a missing persons report with the local police department. Local police thinks it's perfectly reasonable for a husband to be looking for his wife and she's clearly not in the area.
They get the information and find out where she is. Again, perfectly reasonably, they give the location to Bob, who is playing the role of a distraught and desperate husband. Bob then tracks Sally down and starts his terror again anew.....thanks to a legislature that was just "trying to help".
No where does it say the police are going to release that information to anyone - including family. And, chances are "Sally" and "Bob" are already on the same phone plan and he can access her records at any computer at any time.
Theresa

Chaska, MN

#17 Jun 28, 2010
lexibone wrote:
Good Lord, people - freak out a little more! the cops will only have access to your cell records AFTER you go missing. This isnt going to be a free-for-all where any cop can check anyones phone record. Your cell provider will still be the only one with access until you are reported missing.
W-T-H are all of you doing with your cell phones that even if you were to go missing you wouldnt want local police to use your history to find you?!?!?
Finally, someone with some common sense. I think the cops have enough to do without randomly checking someone's phone to see where you are at.
Theresa

Chaska, MN

#18 Jun 28, 2010
kecker wrote:
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Well I think there is some reason for concern. Even assuming everything you say is correct and that the police and phone companies have only good intentions. Note we're already in fantasy land but let's assume that for this scenario.
A wife, we'll call her Sally, is undergoing a horrific divorce from her abusive husband, let's say Bob. Now Bob has repeatedly made threats against Sally and he has beat her rather badly in the past. He has stalked her in the past but she managed to move in with distant relatives out of state without her husband finding out.
Sally is beginning to think she might be able to make a new start without always worrying that Bob is spying on her waiting for a chance to hurt her. Bob is **** that she skipped town and he's worried he wont' be able to figure out where she went. So he fills a missing persons report with the local police department. Local police thinks it's perfectly reasonable for a husband to be looking for his wife and she's clearly not in the area.
They get the information and find out where she is. Again, perfectly reasonably, they give the location to Bob, who is playing the role of a distraught and desperate husband. Bob then tracks Sally down and starts his terror again anew.....thanks to a legislature that was just "trying to help".
If she has fled from him, then she needs to no trace to her where abouts. That would include getting a new cell phone number registered to a relative.What about all the innocent young people that have gone missing, or an elderly person that took a wrong turn, or got lost or stuck in a snow storm? Get a grip on reality people. There are some positive things that can out of this.
Theresa

Chaska, MN

#19 Jun 28, 2010
dum dums wrote:
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I would.
Then you can stay missing
dum dums

Cook, MN

#20 Jun 28, 2010
Theresa wrote:
<quoted text>Then you can stay missing
Thank you because that is my choice, not some corrupt pig or government official.

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