School Lunches

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#42 Sep 5, 2012
To starve to death means to starve until you are dead. I don't think a changed menu at school will cause this. Now if a child is so spoiled that they won't eat what is set before them ,then that is their own fault(or the parents.) What entity do you suspect controlled school lunches before this?.....the same one. Only now it's an issue.
They also decide what the military eats.

Undoubtedly no one typing here has ever known hunger. If they did, perhaps they would be thankful that their children are fed a somewhat healthy meal for a fairly low price, everyday while in someone else's care. Unless people just prefer that their children eat unhealthy food based on taste, I don't see a rational argument here.

It's not like you have to send them to public school. There are countless private schools and the option to home school. If homeschooling is the chosen route you could let the children hand select all their own food at the grocery store, or just feed them Twinkies all day.

Then just do less and less as a parent as the spoiled child slowly becomes a self centered burden on you and society. Take out that second mortgage to keep them out of prison(where they have a totally different menu.)
confused

Powhatan, LA

#43 Sep 5, 2012
simple wrote:
i think you may be eating alot at home and have whatever you want to eat handy in your fridge....it aint like that for all people....school children are getting fed enough and thats healthy,nobody said you cant send them an apple or something for later
I'm confused by your post. How does what is at home in the fridge relate to school lunches?

“It's all in your head”

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#44 Sep 5, 2012
ElephantFly wrote:
What entity do you suspect controlled school lunches before this?.....the same one.)
But before, it wasn't being strong-armed by that lunatic with the man-arms. Seeing her more and more on the kiddy channels telling the kids' favorite little actors what to eat; with the little actors lapping up everything she says-and serves. That wasn't enough, though. They don't have to take the suggestions she makes on tv; so she imposes her rules in the schools. If her kids were to come home hungry, they have a well-stocked white house refrigerator full of food for them. Not all kids have that, though. If they aren't fed well at school, and don't have much food at home, then they are being hurt by her making this her president-wife project. I suppose food police is part of the whole "remake America as it should be" thing.

“It's all in your head”

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#45 Sep 5, 2012
I was disagreeing with you in a most friendly way, ElephantFly. Funny about the spoiled kids. When I first saw "second mortgage", I thought you were going to say something about bankrolling refusals to move out once grown. Not because of the lack of jobs; but because they "don't wanna".

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#46 Sep 5, 2012
http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodschools.html#...
Only a fool would think everybody had the same opinions. I don't expect everybody or anybody to agree with me. It's nice when we can keep cool about something as simple as a difference of opinion. And yes the second mortgage very much applies to those that "Don't wanna."
simple

Winnfield, LA

#47 Sep 5, 2012
confused wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm confused by your post. How does what is at home in the fridge relate to school lunches?
i thought you would be,children can make a habbit of grabbing unhealthy food from the fridge or parent's make bad choices for supper,ex.I am glad that the school is making a healthy effort
confused

Powhatan, LA

#48 Sep 5, 2012
simple wrote:
<quoted text>i thought you would be,children can make a habbit of grabbing unhealthy food from the fridge or parent's make bad choices for supper,ex.I am glad that the school is making a healthy effort
Thanks for explaining, but still, if the children are at school from say 8 am to 3 pm , or however long the school day is, the food at home , good or bad, is not available to a hungry child at school. And no matter the contents of a home refrigerator,it is the decision of the parents of their own child to provide for them as they choose. I don't feel it is Michell Obama's role to set school lunch rules. I think we have qualified local people to plan nutritious meals for our local children. Home rule is just better. Government is too big and too many decisions are being made in Washington.
Just Saying

Shreveport, LA

#49 Sep 5, 2012
ElephantFly wrote:
To starve to death means to starve until you are dead. I don't think a changed menu at school will cause this. Now if a child is so spoiled that they won't eat what is set before them ,then that is their own fault(or the parents.) What entity do you suspect controlled school lunches before this?.....the same one. Only now it's an issue.
They also decide what the military eats.
Undoubtedly no one typing here has ever known hunger. If they did, perhaps they would be thankful that their children are fed a somewhat healthy meal for a fairly low price, everyday while in someone else's care. Unless people just prefer that their children eat unhealthy food based on taste, I don't see a rational argument here.
It's not like you have to send them to public school. There are countless private schools and the option to home school. If homeschooling is the chosen route you could let the children hand select all their own food at the grocery store, or just feed them Twinkies all day.
Then just do less and less as a parent as the spoiled child slowly becomes a self centered burden on you and society. Take out that second mortgage to keep them out of prison(where they have a totally different menu.)
I don't think that people not agreeing with the school menu is going to doom our kids to prison in the wind up. I have stood up for many things for kids and others. I do not own any twinkies or plan on buying them anytime soon. I still think that for the dollar public education is the best we can get at this time. I just think it is a shame that just because Ms. Bama wants to get a cause she chooses to tell us how to best care for our kids. I'm not sure this is really her idea, sounds like a political thing to me. She has to make herself look good after all of our money she spent on round the world vacations for her and the kids. So someone told her they had a plan. She could become the champion Mom that would save our kids. None of my kids are fat and never have been. Neither am I. I think I know a thing or two about feeding kids and what they like. I do not need anyone, including the Presidents ole lady to tell me what to do with kids.
simple

Winnfield, LA

#50 Sep 7, 2012
confused wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for explaining, but still, if the children are at school from say 8 am to 3 pm , or however long the school day is, the food at home , good or bad, is not available to a hungry child at school. And no matter the contents of a home refrigerator,it is the decision of the parents of their own child to provide for them as they choose. I don't feel it is Michell Obama's role to set school lunch rules. I think we have qualified local people to plan nutritious meals for our local children. Home rule is just better. Government is too big and too many decisions are being made in Washington.
i think the first lady has done a great job....to many parents do not teach their children properly and the child will have to pay for it in the long run...learning to eat healthy is a good thing

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#51 Sep 7, 2012
They wouldn't be up in arms if it was the wife of the candidate they voted for. End of story.
Michelle

Deville, LA

#52 Sep 7, 2012
-Spartan- wrote:
They wouldn't be up in arms if it was the wife of the candidate they voted for. End of story.
Pardon me and your attitude, but YES I would. I have read your comments for a long time and you are pompus and think you are a bit smarter than the rest of us, but I can assure you, you do not have the ability to read minds. So please refrain from assuming how I think or feel. I have a problem with ANYONE, including you, who think it is ok to tell me how to raise my children. I PAY for my children's lunches and expect to get what I pay for. I have to work, so I don't have the extra time to prepare them a good hot lunch and deliver it to the school. I was raised on school lunches, that my parents paid for, and along with my siblings, turned out just fine, without the interference of you and you socialist agenda. That is all.
why now

Powhatan, LA

#53 Sep 7, 2012
simple wrote:
<quoted text>i think the first lady has done a great job....to many parents do not teach their children properly and the child will have to pay for it in the long run...learning to eat healthy is a good thing
From a seat in Washington D.C. decreeing what a person should be served in the local school is far exceeding the bounds of a non-elected (or even elected ) individual. Health classes have been taught in local schools for as long as we have had public schools. If parents haven't learned to feed their children properly,then forcing unpalatable food in a school lunch room won't teach healthy choices, in fact it may turn them away from what Michell calls "healthy".

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#54 Sep 7, 2012
Michelle wrote:
<quoted text>Pardon me and your attitude, but YES I would. I have read your comments for a long time and you are pompus and think you are a bit smarter than the rest of us, but I can assure you, you do not have the ability to read minds. So please refrain from assuming how I think or feel. I have a problem with ANYONE, including you, who think it is ok to tell me how to raise my children. I PAY for my children's lunches and expect to get what I pay for. I have to work, so I don't have the extra time to prepare them a good hot lunch and deliver it to the school. I was raised on school lunches, that my parents paid for, and along with my siblings, turned out just fine, without the interference of you and you socialist agenda. That is all.
Hi pot. I'm kettle. Nice to meet you.
Just Saying

Shreveport, LA

#55 Sep 7, 2012
-Spartan- wrote:
They wouldn't be up in arms if it was the wife of the candidate they voted for. End of story.
It really does not have anything to do with whose wife she is. This is not a political issue. But I don't think she has a a degree in any kind of food or medicine. I do believe though had this been a registered dietician from lets say LSU that the idea would not have been given a second thought. Sort of like me telling the guy at the Space Center how to build a rocket. But when it comes down to it I still believe it is really about money and someone linning their pockets at the expense of our kids. I don't care who the person is, I think when the make drastic changes in any area of our school system that more study needs to be done first. Your reply seems to be based on race and not knowledge.

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#56 Sep 7, 2012
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>It really does not have anything to do with whose wife she is. This is not a political issue. But I don't think she has a a degree in any kind of food or medicine. I do believe though had this been a registered dietician from lets say LSU that the idea would not have been given a second thought. Sort of like me telling the guy at the Space Center how to build a rocket. But when it comes down to it I still believe it is really about money and someone linning their pockets at the expense of our kids. I don't care who the person is, I think when the make drastic changes in any area of our school system that more study needs to be done first. Your reply seems to be based on race and not knowledge.
You don't need a degree in nutrition to know whether or not you're eating crap.

Is she making legislation? No. It's not even in her power to do so. Is it so wrong to campaign for healthier eating? Re read this thread. They're speaking like this is some type of orwellian future. People have been campaigning for healthier eating for decades. Why is it such an issue now?

And who said anything about race?

Show me documented evidence of Michelle Obama mandating changes in school lunch food.
rersults of obama lunch

Powhatan, LA

#57 Sep 7, 2012
About 32 million children participate in school meal programs each day. The new rules are a major component of Mrs. Obama’s campaign to reduce the number of overweight children through exercise and better nutrition.

So here's Michelle Obama trying to co-opt and take over the school lunch program for healthful eating and just like everywhere else in the free market, if people can find a way around what's dictated to them, they will do it, and a black market ends up being created. Now, the Los Angeles Unified School District, second largest in the country, it's the largest to try a government-approved school lunch menu that was championed by Michelle Obama. They bragged about this three months ago. The only problem is the kids are refusing to eat the stuff

“Escaped to The North”

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#58 Sep 7, 2012
Cite your sources, please.
school boy

Powhatan, LA

#59 Sep 8, 2012
-Spartan- wrote:
Cite your sources, please.
Juast Google Michell Obama and school lunches and you will find plenty sources.

“Escaped to The North”

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#60 Sep 8, 2012
school boy wrote:
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Juast Google Michell Obama and school lunches and you will find plenty sources.
It is not my charge to do so. The burden of proof lies with the person who makes the claim. If you make a statement that you claim to be true, you should be able to back it up with documentation.

Telling me to research your claim severely discredits the validity of your argument because it leaves it up to me to find the evidence. I could easily say "oh, well I didn't find anything to support your statement!"

That's not how the world of debate works. You make a statement you claim to be true, you back it up with facts. Do your own homework.
Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#61 Sep 13, 2012
-Spartan- wrote:
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It is not my charge to do so. The burden of proof lies with the person who makes the claim. If you make a statement that you claim to be true, you should be able to back it up with documentation.
Telling me to research your claim severely discredits the validity of your argument because it leaves it up to me to find the evidence. I could easily say "oh, well I didn't find anything to support your statement!"
That's not how the world of debate works. You make a statement you claim to be true, you back it up with facts. Do your own homework.
Let me be clear!! Stop watching MSLSD and your favorite anchor Rachael Madcow clown!!

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