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old guy

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#1 Jan 31, 2010
It seems the FBC Pastor has been put on notice to "shape up or ship out"! It's about time the Deacons wake up and see that this man has no respect for our church, it's property or his position! He will not "shape up" so let's see if the Deacons have the "guts" to make him "ship out"!
Curious

United States

#2 Jan 31, 2010
What did he do?
Fellow Baptist

United States

#3 Jan 31, 2010
Curious wrote:
What did he do?
He preaches against sin. He's not a hireling that preaches feel-good sermons. Most elite Baptists can't tolerate good fundamental preaching. It convicts them about their life style.
First Church Lady

United States

#4 Jan 31, 2010
He dresses like a bum, he talks like a loud sailor, he took the churchís beautiful parsonage and filled it with dogs that have crapped all over every inch of it and it now stinks like a dog pound. The parsonage had just been completely remodeled when he moved in and he has raised dogs in it to sell. He had plenty of area outside to raise dogs but he has chosen to turn the parsonage into a kennel after being asked to put the dogs outdoors. He doesn't visit the church members in the hospital or when they are having surgery. He does not occupy his office in the church thereby making himself accessible to his congregation. These are just a few of the problems with him that can be aired and discussed in public where there might be children that can read them.

And by the way he makes a salary of over $75,000 a year plus a house with all utilities paid. Considering what the average salary is in Winnfield I would think one would be willing to do whatever it took to keep a job like that but apparently he doesnít see it that way. The church isnít asking to much of him for sure! Maybe he is kin to our sheriff!
dahling

AOL

#5 Jan 31, 2010
First Church Lady wrote:
He dresses like a bum, he talks like a loud sailor, he took the churchís beautiful parsonage and filled it with dogs that have crapped all over every inch of it and it now stinks like a dog pound. The parsonage had just been completely remodeled when he moved in and he has raised dogs in it to sell. He had plenty of area outside to raise dogs but he has chosen to turn the parsonage into a kennel after being asked to put the dogs outdoors. He doesn't visit the church members in the hospital or when they are having surgery. He does not occupy his office in the church thereby making himself accessible to his congregation. These are just a few of the problems with him that can be aired and discussed in public where there might be children that can read them. And by the way he makes a salary of over $75,000 a year plus a house with all utilities paid. Considering what the average salary is in Winnfield I would think one would be willing to do whatever it took to keep a job like that but apparently he doesnít see it that way. The church isnít asking to much of him for sure! Maybe he is kin to our sheriff!
Did you want cheese with that whine? The complaints you make may be valid, but I doubt he just started acting and living this way when he moved to Winnfield. Who at FBC served on the pulpit committee? It was their responsibility to check him out. Why not take them to task, too?

I suspect the Pastor will not survive the crude insinuations of impropriety you make. Trashy gossip. But it seems that the thing that bothers you most is his pay and benefits. Get real. He did not set the salary, FBC did. Think about the job. You expect him to be available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. A sermon can take hours to plan and prepare, and he has at least 2 a week to give. And then he has to deal with members like you who bellyache and complain about everything. If you do not like him, move your membership. But, I warn you, you probably will not be happy anywhere you go.

“What's that sound?”

Level 5

Since: Mar 09

Winnfield, LA

#6 Jan 31, 2010
One of the worst things they ever did was make being a man of God a paid position. The worst thing they ever did was making it a HIGH paying position.

“What's that sound?”

Level 5

Since: Mar 09

Winnfield, LA

#7 Jan 31, 2010
And I am talking about "preachers" in general. I don't know this man.
NO U DIDNT

Pineville, LA

#8 Jan 31, 2010
Well Said Dahling!!! FIRST CHURCH LADY... you could have talked ALL day without that last comment. Yet you want to call yourself a CHRISTIAN? You worry about children getting on here and reading what is said BUT you talk about the pastor of your church and his "faults," his home life, etc. and then the sheriff~ Last time I checked~~ they BOTH have children! Sounds to me like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth! I don't know about you, but the GOD that I worship would FROWN something aweful for that last comment! While I do not care much for the sheriff, I hardly see WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE SHERIFF!!! It is SOOO sad that even a church forum can be turned into something about the SHERIFF!! For God's sake lady this is what is WRONG with CHURCHES today. Holy rollers run thru the doors every time they are open and PRETEND to be ALL THAT then look down on everyone that does NOT conform to your WAYS or your THINKING! That is NOT Christian~~ And that sure is not the road to HEAVEN SISTER!

So this Pastor has dogs? Big deal! I have held those dogs! Have you? You talk like they are some kind of everyday run of the mill mutts - NEWS FLASH ~ THEY ARE NOT! My guess is, you are one of those people that absolutely refuses to have a dog in the house!?!?!? He also has teenage children. Guess that makes him not eligible for the GRAND PULPIT OF FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH? After all, family matters WILL take time away a church family! Is this a CRIME? I have an even better idea~~ maybe you should get your butt up there and try to lead that CHURCH! Then let ALL those GOOD, FINE, GOD-FEARING folks (such as yourself)get on here and rant and rave about you...That would make you feel good, would it not? Or let me guess? You have children? GIVE ME A BREAK~~
My Opinion

United States

#9 Jan 31, 2010
The last time I spoke with him, he was leaving to go to Shreveport to visit a church member who was in the hospital.He also has a genuine interest in our youth.So,"First Church Lady",why don't you try getting involved yourself, instead of sitting at a computer anonymously bashing the pastor!
Mo Jo

Doyline, LA

#10 Jan 31, 2010
He may earn 75,000 a year & free housing.Think again, that free housing is considerd income. When a pastor that lives in a house provided by the churc he or she has to pay tax on that house. The house is considerd income by the IRS. The church dose not pay in tax for the house. The Irs rates the rent on the house according to other rent property in the area. So that pastor (Preacher) has to pay tax
at the end of teh year when filing income tax. So
he is not living in the house for free. As for other faults, he is human. We all do & say things that not every one approves of. So live with it. You are not perfect either.
Facts

Mount Pleasant, TX

#11 Feb 1, 2010
I liked him from the first time I read his article in the Evangel, he is a person who actually tells about reality, no one over the age of 55 is gonna like him because he dosent preach it to suit a personal need, he tells it like it is, he had one article in there about body tattoos etc.. and yes God did mafk his people, i have family members with tattoos etc and they are great christian people who go to that church along with my family. Its not always gonna be roses at any church, he actually tries to relate to the upcoming members of the church and not just the older members, and about him not caring, he called me on my birthday just like all the others, when Ihad family in the hospital, he came, so go figure.
member

Mount Pleasant, TX

#12 Feb 1, 2010
Oh my goodness. It is scarey to know that someone like "First Church Lady" goes to the same church that I go. Shame on you! He is improving and he is visiting people. Instead of insulting, pray. This is a wonderful church and a very giving church. Someone like First Church Lady can ripe a church apart. I refuse to see his happen. If you don't like FBC,maybe it's time you find another.
no revote here

Mount Pleasant, TX

#13 Feb 1, 2010
First Church Lady wrote:
He dresses like a bum, he talks like a loud sailor, he took the churchís beautiful parsonage and filled it with dogs that have crapped all over every inch of it and it now stinks like a dog pound. The parsonage had just been completely remodeled when he moved in and he has raised dogs in it to sell. He had plenty of area outside to raise dogs but he has chosen to turn the parsonage into a kennel after being asked to put the dogs outdoors. He doesn't visit the church members in the hospital or when they are having surgery. He does not occupy his office in the church thereby making himself accessible to his congregation. These are just a few of the problems with him that can be aired and discussed in public where there might be children that can read them.
And by the way he makes a salary of over $75,000 a year plus a house with all utilities paid. Considering what the average salary is in Winnfield I would think one would be willing to do whatever it took to keep a job like that but apparently he doesnít see it that way. The church isnít asking to much of him for sure! Maybe he is kin to our sheriff!
He wears coat and tie on Sunday, slacks and polo style shirt on Sunday night. He talks loud so people can hear. Was at their house and it was not trashy and did not see ANY poo and did not stink. He has been to hospitals, nursing homes, etc... ya know, no one has to prove anything to you. How dare you be so vicous to these people. Do you know them. Did you go to church yesterday and see all the YOUTH there. Age wise, you are an adult. You should be out there getting all these young kids in to church. You know better. You should know how to act. Kids look up to adults and all you do is sit back and complain. Oh and the salary also includes expenses , insurance, etc.... Get off your butt and do something to serve God.
a question

Jonesville, LA

#14 Feb 1, 2010
Facts wrote:
I liked him from the first time I read his article in the Evangel, he is a person who actually tells about reality, no one over the age of 55 is gonna like him because he dosent preach it to suit a personal need, he tells it like it is, he had one article in there about body tattoos etc.. and yes God did mafk his people, i have family members with tattoos etc and they are great christian people who go to that church along with my family. Its not always gonna be roses at any church, he actually tries to relate to the upcoming members of the church and not just the older members, and about him not caring, he called me on my birthday just like all the others, when Ihad family in the hospital, he came, so go figure.
Just curious if your preacher thinks body tattoos are OK? Or if you think they are OK? Any scripture to condone this?
bible 101

Mount Pleasant, TX

#15 Feb 1, 2010
a question wrote:
<quoted text>
Just curious if your preacher thinks body tattoos are OK? Or if you think they are OK? Any scripture to condone this?
I think that the Bible tells us to treat our body like our temple. What do you think? How would you treat your temple. God knows you regardless of what it marked on your body. The big question would be, "Are you and do you act like a Christian?".
Facts

Mount Pleasant, TX

#16 Feb 1, 2010
Its not my place to judge anyone and yes I do think its ok if that is what you wanna do and yes he had the scripture that he quoted to back it up it was a long time ago and I dont remember the exact one
Boo Boo

Mount Pleasant, TX

#17 Feb 1, 2010
I don't go to this church but I would think anything is an improvement over Calvin Phelps. That man did not do anything unless he got paid for it. That includes visiting people in the hospital. That's just my opinion. I do not know the man that is there now. I have never met him and would not know who he is if he walked up to me.
No More

United States

#18 Feb 1, 2010
no revote here wrote:
<quoted text>He wears coat and tie on Sunday, slacks and polo style shirt on Sunday night. He talks loud so people can hear. Was at their house and it was not trashy and did not see ANY poo and did not stink. He has been to hospitals, nursing homes, etc... ya know, no one has to prove anything to you. How dare you be so vicous to these people. Do you know them. Did you go to church yesterday and see all the YOUTH there. Age wise, you are an adult. You should be out there getting all these young kids in to church. You know better. You should know how to act. Kids look up to adults and all you do is sit back and complain. Oh and the salary also includes expenses , insurance, etc.... Get off your butt and do something to serve God.
What you are saying just isn't true. I have seen him dressed like a slop on many occations. He had to get someone to come in to clean the house this past week before he could host any of the kids there. You are just one of those at the church that follows his ways blindly because you want to be a slop right along with him I'm sure. You probably have dog mess all over your house and dress like a bum.

People keep taking about how it's only the old people that don't care for him but that's not true either and if it weren't for those old people the FBC would go broke!
Sensible

Shreveport, LA

#19 Feb 1, 2010
The nonsense in this thread is the reason many people avoid organized religion.
I am in shock

AOL

#20 Feb 1, 2010
This forum should not be public. This matter should be taken care of behind the church doors. I have flagged this entire forum inappropriate.

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