Inching toward another TAX?

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must not

Pineville, LA

#2 Jan 31, 2010
With the high utility bills for our homes, we certainly don't want any of our tax money going to a shelter for animals, or for the control of people.(people problem? in above post) The state requirements for housing animals in a shelter is completely ridiculous. As long as volunteers want to shelter animals that's fine, fine. But our citizens are having a hard time paying our utility bills without having to fund utilities for animals, too.
Winn Parish don't need an animal shelter paid for with tax money.
Disney

Moreauville, LA

#3 Jan 31, 2010
Can't afford anymore taxes!
what

Alexandria, LA

#4 Feb 2, 2010
They, the Heart of Louisiana Humane Society (Winn) want to be an animal control for OUR parish ? Does that mean what I think it means? The society wants taxpayers to pay them a salary, insurance, retirement and vacation benefits and furnish the facilities, vet bills and food for stray animals.
We have an animal shelter in the city.
so true

Alexandria, LA

#5 Feb 3, 2010
Disney wrote:
Can't afford anymore taxes!
Amen to that! Police Jury already asking us for more millage for Health Unit than any other parish in the state. Police jury forgets we are a poor parish, with high unemployment. NO MOE TAX FOR ANYTHING until our local governments cut back and ask us for LESS than we have been paying when times were more prosperous.
KDS

Pineville, LA

#6 Feb 4, 2010
Winn Parish Enterprise, Feb. 3, 2010, p. 23A.
The president of Heart of Louisiana Humane Society appeared before the police Jury to tell them, she believes that the time has come for a collaboration effort in obtaining animal control. Bodie's spokesman,deputy Joe Hines addressed the Jury and stated he would like to see the committee established relating to parish animal issues.
McFarland, jury president, states the Jury will set up a meeting with representative and legal counsel to discuss obligation of the parish.
Establishment of an animal contro unit willrequire MONEY from us tapayers. Don't we have enough to pay for already? NO need to add more programs. government is out of hand, wanting to control every facet of our lives.
no way

Mount Pleasant, TX

#7 Feb 9, 2010
what wrote:
They, the Heart of Louisiana Humane Society (Winn) want to be an animal control for OUR parish ? Does that mean what I think it means? The society wants taxpayers to pay them a salary, insurance, retirement and vacation benefits and furnish the facilities, vet bills and food for stray animals.
We have an animal shelter in the city.
We live in a country where a person can go and fight for his country, come home with stress disorder and other problems, lose his job, house and everything. Live on the street and we have more laws on the books as to how to treat a dog. I'm a animal lover but I dont want to be told as a taxpayer I have to build animal shelter with air conditioner, and all these animal rights, when our soldiers don't get that kind of care.
KDS

Pineville, LA

#8 Feb 9, 2010
Was reading in Alexandria paper about Rapides Police Jury president laying out how their revenue collections are down and concluded Central Louisiana is in a recession.
In another article read that many unemployed have just stopped looking for jobs because there are none available.
Citizens and voters of Winn need to refuse to vote for any more taxes, and certainly not open any new programs that will cost the taxpayers money. We haven't seen the bottom of this recession , yet. It can only get worse. During the great depression, many landowners lost their lands because they couldn't pay the taxes on it.
Government entities must scale back their spending, cut back on their retirement benefits for their part time jobs.
isee

Alexandria, LA

#9 Feb 17, 2010
Yea, the humane society (winn) has appeared before out police jury and our jury president McFarland admitted it would eventually need tax dollars if the jury took on any part of the society.
In last week's winn paper (the society is working hard to gain public support ) Mr.Mcmanus, the society president in an article said her future goals was to build a shelter and to strengthen partnerships with local law enforcement and GOVERNMENT.(government is we, the tax payers)Ms Mcmanus, the texan who came in here and was here only 6 months before she had organized the society and was speaking before civic clubs for her cause. the sheriff wants an animal shelter as well. Big bucks that would take . All us unemployed people need to vote against any juror memeber who votes to support yet another entity that wants our tax dollars.
No more tax

Mount Pleasant, TX

#10 Feb 17, 2010
No more tax. NONE NADA for anyone, especially the sheriff. GO VOTE PEOPLE! They'll get the message some day. Take care of your pet. Keep your guns loaded. We don't really need any of these overbloated sucks.
HLHS

Shreveport, LA

#11 Feb 17, 2010
Iíve been volunteering with the humane society since it began, and Iíd like to weigh in here. HLHS has been operating in the parish since early 2008, and we are an all-volunteer group. We have no plans, now or in the future, to hire employees. The idea that we want salaries and benefits is ridiculous. None of us are in this for money, recognition, fame or power. We just want to help the helpless.

Yes, our president and founder spoke before the police jury (this isnít the first time) but we arenít asking them for money. What we want is to form an advisory committee, made up of people from all walks of Winn Parish life, to help us progress. Nothing happens in a vacuum, and we volunteers can do only so much. Most of our time is spent in actual grunt-work, in the trenches. We havenít the time or resources, or experience in a lot of cases, to write policy. We need help with learning where the issues lie and where our time and funds will be best spent.

Speaking of funds: We operate 100% on membership fees and donations.

I myself wrote the article referenced in the last post. Yes, I said we want to strengthen bonds with government. This doesnít automatically translate into grabbing tax dollars. Truth is, we canít operate at all without the permission of governing bodies. We canít just go to the pound and take dogs for adoption. We have to have permission. We canít do half of what we do without having the sheriffís department and police department on our side, and these are government bodies. Of course we have to partner with the government.

Tell you what. If you have questions about the way HLHS operates, just contact us and ask. Come to a meeting (second Monday of the month, 6:30 pm at Foxís), email us, call us, visit our website, Friend us on Facebook, or come to Adoption Day this coming Saturday morning.

If you want to know whatís really going on, or want to help affect change instead of hurling baseless criticisms, come and get involved.
isee

Jena, LA

#12 Feb 17, 2010
I read the paper. I make decisions on information.
Winn Paper 1-27-2010, headlines read: Humane Society, POLICE JURY discuss forming committee at meeting
In the body of the article, Mr. McFarland , president of OUR police jury stated, "Some of us are aware of the direction you would like to go with the humane society, but there are also OBLIGATIONS of the PARISH and what we are obligating ourselves to. When we begin this, it is going to take FUNDING" Well, police jury funding comes from taxpayers and we have too many taxes now without adding another entity to fund. such as the Humane Society!

Hurling BASELESS CRITISM, you say??? McFarland further states: " BEFORE WE ESTABLISH A COMMITTEE, THERE WOULD BE SOME LEGAL CHALLENGES TO THAT. Further, my criticism is not baseless, as you state.
And I'm not critical of your organization, I'm concerned about these meetings with our tax supported bodies eventually leading to the use of TAX monies and I don't want to see that happen. Government must be cutting back; not adding to.

You say" We havenít the time or resources, or experience in a lot of cases, to write policy. We need help with learning where the issues lie and where our time and funds will be best spent."

So? You want help where you don't have the TIME or RESOURCES to write policy? So you go to OUR Police Jury asking for our parish body paid with our tax money to come to the aid of your organization?. You want YOUR time and YOUR FUNDS to be be spent in the best manner! Well, as a taxpayer, I want OUR tax moneys to be spent in the best manner doing the job the Jury is supposed to do.. Their duty is not to spend research time,or policy writing time for your non-governmental organization. Whether you see it or not, it would take tax dollars to do what you are seeking from the jury.
NO MORE TAXES!!!!!

“What's that sound?”

Level 5

Since: Mar 09

Winnfield, LA

#13 Feb 17, 2010
I have to say that I agree with isee's post 100%. This looks like something that will eventually turn into a parish supported endeavor. Support means funding.
HLHS wrote:
we volunteers can do only so much... We havenít the time or resources
Volunteers can only do so much, so eventually we will have to provide a salary to someone so they can devote their full time and attention to the problem, but we haven't the resources... So we are meeting with government bodies to find the answers to these problems.

Looks to me like the OP was dead on.
HLHS

Shreveport, LA

#14 Feb 17, 2010
You forget that we humane society volunteers are taxpayers too.:) I think we can all agree that nobody wants to pay more taxes.

What we're asking the PJ to do is make recommendations for a committee to assist us in deciding where to spend our money (donations and membership fees, and eventually, maybe grants from national charities and corporations).

I don't know if you're aware, but every parish is required to provide animal control. Winnfield does have a city pound, but it only operates within the city limits. There is no parish animal control at all. The service HLHS is providing, funded by our membership fees and donations, is the only animal-control service in Winn Parish.

I say your criticisms are baseless because you are assuming two things:
1) That HLHS has gone to the PJ with our hands out asking for tax money, and that is simply not true.

2) That the PJ has committed time or resources to HLHS, which is also not true.

I extend my invitation again, to you, isee, or anyone else reading this. Come and get involved. Maybe you'll bring experience, resources, talent, skill, time, expertise, or any combination of these things that every volunteer organization desperately needs. You certainly have passion. Why not put it to work to positively impact your community?

:)
look it up

United States

#15 Feb 17, 2010
You can talk about this all day, but the fact is the parish is required by state law to provide an animal shelter. End of discussion. Look it up!

http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp...

ß2774. Parishes to provide animal facilities

Each parish shall provide suitable shelters or facilities for dogs seized under the provisions of this Part.

Acts 2003, No. 133,ß1, eff. May 28, 2003.
MissLady

Shreveport, LA

#16 Feb 17, 2010
I also volunteer for the humane society, and I voted against the tax last year. I never believed the rumors that it was going to be used for a shelter.

“What's that sound?”

Level 5

Since: Mar 09

Winnfield, LA

#17 Feb 17, 2010
HLHS wrote:
I don't know if you're aware, but every parish is required to provide animal control.
look it up wrote:
the fact is the parish is required by state law to provide an animal shelter. End of discussion.
They can't convince us, so now they are going to bully us.

“What's that sound?”

Level 5

Since: Mar 09

Winnfield, LA

#18 Feb 17, 2010
Am I the only one that finds it funny that this is such a big deal now? This is one of the things Bodie was going to put the 1% tax toward. The 1% tax was defeated now this is coming up, and all of a sudden it's a big deal that the state requires it.
KDS wrote:
Bodie's spokesman,deputy Joe Hines addressed the Jury and stated he would like to see the committee established relating to parish animal issues.
Bodie's spokesman... Bodie has figured out some way to make money off this, and it just hasn't come up yet.
HLHS

Shreveport, LA

#19 Feb 17, 2010
schizo wrote:
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They can't convince us, so now they are going to bully us.
Let me nip a misunderstanding in the bud. We (HLHS) are not and have no interest in ever becoming a government-run/supported entity. We're not trying to "bully" anyone into anything. We have spotted a need and are trying to fill it.

We have no control over the laws the state passes, especially those passed years before we were ever organized.

Honestly, I can see where this can get confusing, but (again) come to a meeting, call, email, post and ask. Please don't read a newspaper article and assume you know exactly what's going down.

We're happy to answer any questions. It's kind of difficult to get our policies, goals, and interests across in a format like this one.

“What's that sound?”

Level 5

Since: Mar 09

Winnfield, LA

#20 Feb 17, 2010
HLHS,

I love your posts. You'd convince me. My post was really aimed at the other one I quoted, and had more to do with that posts tone. I only quoted yours where the words agreed. Maybe I shouldn't have even done that. I'm sorry.

schizo
isee

Pineville, LA

#21 Feb 17, 2010
schizo wrote:
Am I the only one that finds it funny that this is such a big deal now? This is one of the things Bodie was going to put the 1% tax toward. The 1% tax was defeated now this is coming up, and all of a sudden it's a big deal that the state requires it.
<quoted text>
Bodie's spokesman... Bodie has figured out some way to make money off this, and it just hasn't come up yet.
Schizo, you are brilliant! Got an import from Texa that was here 6 months and started the society!!

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