Official Pay Raise

[schizo]

Can anyone tell me at what point these government officials that supposedly work for the people, obtained the rights to set their own pay?

The first thing that happened after the last City Council election was a discussion of what they thought they were worth. They voted themselves and the mayor a nice pay raise.

Tell me if I'm wrong. Bodie decides what he is worth out of his budget, or beyond his budget as the case was in this situation, and gave himself a hefty raise despite a lack of finances. When he leaves office next election. The next sheriff will find himself solidly in debt. A great portion of that debt going straight into Bodie's pocket as salary. But who pays it? We do! Like I said, if I'm wrong and someone else decides Bodie's salary as sheriff, please let me know.

Here is my question, someone help me here. What would it take to put the salaries of these public SERVANTS into the hands of the people? I think a sheriffs pay raise should go before the people, just like this 1% tax did. I don't believe men like Bodie and Deano should be able to decide their own worth, they both set their worth a great deal higher than I would! Especially in Winnfield, let's face it, we aren't exactly a clean beautiful city like Natchitoches. We aren't exactly seeing growth (even in a recession) like Ruston.

According to the 2000 Census the median HOUSEHOLD income for the people of Winn Parish was $25,462. the median personal income was of course less than that. What exactly does the mayor make? Anyone have that figure? What does the Sheriff make? Why do they make 3 and 4 times what the people of the parish make? How much do they think we can afford?

And if the pay isn't good enough, if you don't believe you can make it on the salary the people think is fair, then maybe you shouldn't apply for the job!

I know at least one person running for mayor in the next election has made the statement that he will more than double his current salary. And if it's like past elections I'm sure the first order of business will be a pay raise.

Anyone out there have any clue what it would take to get this decision into the people's hands, and out of the greedy politicians?

I keep hearing how it is time for change, it is time for change! Hey, no one agrees more than me!

If you are running a business and you find yourself short on funds to operate your business you take home less money, or you bankrupt your business! Not these guys, they see themselves short on funds and give themselves raises.

GIVE THEMSELVES RAISES!!

Am I the only one that sees a problem with this picture??? They are not self employed, they work for us! And it's past time we took charge!

[Taxbusters]

But the next sheriff will not inherit a deficit. As Sheriff Little is about to learn, he cannot operate a government agency like he has run his personal businesses. He cannot borrow and spend, borrow and spend, and not repay the money. The sheriff is personally responsible for any deficit. Failure to leave the office in the black can make the sheriff a guest in his own place upstairs.

[Scanner]

Taxbusters wrote:

But the next sheriff will not inherit a deficit. As Sheriff Little is about to learn, he cannot operate a government agency like he has run his personal businesses. He cannot borrow and spend, borrow and spend, and not repay the money. The sheriff is personally responsible for any deficit. Failure to leave the office in the black can make the sheriff a guest in his own place upstairs.

Why isn't he upstairs already. He left the assessors office broke , owed 3 monts telephone bill, owed the IRS, and some to the retirement fund, I believe it was. Nothing was done to him about that.

[recall]

Any way to recall this guy? I didn't vote for him anyway. Anyone i vote for loses. I need to quit voting.

[schizo]

Scanner wrote:

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Why isn't he upstairs already. He left the assessors office broke , owed 3 monts telephone bill, owed the IRS, and some to the retirement fund, I believe it was. Nothing was done to him about that.

His punishment for that?

We made him sheriff!!

[Recall is tough]

You have to have 1/3 of the registered voters correctly sign a petition to even get a recall election on the ballot. Then a majority of those voting must vote for the recall. But the hardest part is getting 1/3 of the registered voters to sign a public document against a sitting sheriff. I don't think that's ever happened.

[See the DA or Attn Gen]

Scanner wrote:

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Why isn't he upstairs already. He left the assessors office broke , owed 3 monts telephone bill, owed the IRS, and some to the retirement fund, I believe it was. Nothing was done to him about that.

One of them has to be willing to prosecute.

[TOMCAT]

AMEN!

[VOTER]

Scanner wrote:

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Why isn't he upstairs already. He left the assessors office broke , owed 3 monts telephone bill, owed the IRS, and some to the retirement fund, I believe it was. Nothing was done to him about that.

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mrs person is the one that cost the parish thousands of dollars for changing tthe tax assement.
I know personally that she changed property from one person to another. thisis very illegal
why is she not in the pin?
Mrs Person is the one that left all the bills not paid when she was tax assessor.
She is the one that raised the assement on the ones that has been complaining. this was a planed deal including her and the one that complaned that Mr.Boddie did it.

[schizo]

VOTER wrote:

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mrs person is the one that cost the parish thousands of dollars for changing tthe tax assement.
I know personally that she changed property from one person to another. thisis very illegal
why is she not in the pin?
Mrs Person is the one that left all the bills not paid when she was tax assessor.
She is the one that raised the assement on the ones that has been complaining. this was a planed deal including her and the one that complaned that Mr.Boddie did it.

There are very few here that believe this.

[Matt]

VOTER wrote:

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mrs person is the one that cost the parish thousands of dollars for changing tthe tax assement.
I know personally that she changed property from one person to another. thisis very illegal
why is she not in the pin?
Mrs Person is the one that left all the bills not paid when she was tax assessor.
She is the one that raised the assement on the ones that has been complaining. this was a planed deal including her and the one that complaned that Mr.Boddie did it.

Bodie left office with the tax rolls in a mess. He illegally raised the assessments of many beyond 15% which by law requires him to notify the property owners in writing and by law it must be done in time for the owners to legally protest. Bodie did this after the leagal time to raise taxes so ther ewas no chance to protest and failed to notify property owners as required. Therefore, Margaree was left with a lot of work to do when the TAX COMMISSION orderd her to roll back those illegal taxes Bodie had recorded.

[Mr Obvious]

If any public officials in Winn Parish deserve a pay raise it is the School Board Members. They make $350.00 per month.

[abc]

That was about 5 years ago. They make much more now. Also, they are eligible for retirement and health benefits. They can usually keep the health benefits after they leave office.

[often]

Mr Obvious wrote:

If any public officials in Winn Parish deserve a pay raise it is the School Board Members. They make $350.00 per month.

And how many tmes do they meet per month? And how many times do they not show up for the meetings? Ithought they got a pay raise a year ago. People on SS didn't get a cost of living raise and some live on very small checks and many in the parihs don't have a job. Unemployment will run out soon,then What? The people who pay the salaries for public officials are not getting raises. So no more raises. The school board members knew when they took the job what the pay was. Some have well paing jobs and are not dependent on school board pay. If they dont' think itis enough--resign! Don't be asking us for more money!!

[dahling]

schizo wrote:

Tell me if I'm wrong. Bodie decides what he is worth out of his budget, or beyond his budget as the case was in this situation, and gave himself a hefty raise despite a lack of finances. When he leaves office next election. The next sheriff will find himself solidly in debt. A great portion of that debt going straight into Bodie's pocket as salary. But who pays it? We do! Like I said, if I'm wrong and someone else decides Bodie's salary as sheriff, please let me know.
Here is my question, someone help me here. What would it take to put the salaries of these public SERVANTS into the hands of the people? I think a sheriffs pay raise should go before the people, just like this 1% tax did. I don't believe men like Bodie and Deano should be able to decide their own worth, they both set their worth a great deal higher than I would! Especially in Winnfield, let's face it, we aren't exactly a clean beautiful city like Natchitoches. We aren't exactly seeing growth (even in a recession) like Ruston.

I believe the city government controls its own salaries. As for Bodie, his salary is set by the state. I have looked without sucess to find exactly how it is set and if it is a fixed salary or a salary range. What I have found indicates the sheriff's salary is set as a percentage of the state judges's pay. So, if the state judges get a raise, it triggers an increase in the sheriff's pay. Yes, it is ridiculous. Why should Bodie make pretty close to the sheriffs in Caddo and Bossier parishes? Those parishes are wealthier, have many more people who depend on them, and have more deputies and staff.

[conserned christan]

schizo wrote:

Can anyone tell me at what point these government officials that supposedly work for the people, obtained the rights to set their own pay?
The first thing that happened after the last City Council election was a discussion of what they thought they were worth. They voted themselves and the mayor a nice pay raise.
Tell me if I'm wrong. Bodie decides what he is worth out of his budget, or beyond his budget as the case was in this situation, and gave himself a hefty raise despite a lack of finances. When he leaves office next election. The next sheriff will find himself solidly in debt. A great portion of that debt going straight into Bodie's pocket as salary. But who pays it? We do! Like I said, if I'm wrong and someone else decides Bodie's salary as sheriff, please let me know.
Here is my question, someone help me here. What would it take to put the salaries of these public SERVANTS into the hands of the people? I think a sheriffs pay raise should go before the people, just like this 1% tax did. I don't believe men like Bodie and Deano should be able to decide their own worth, they both set their worth a great deal higher than I would! Especially in Winnfield, let's face it, we aren't exactly a clean beautiful city like Natchitoches. We aren't exactly seeing growth (even in a recession) like Ruston.
According to the 2000 Census the median HOUSEHOLD income for the people of Winn Parish was $25,462. the median personal income was of course less than that. What exactly does the mayor make? Anyone have that figure? What does the Sheriff make? Why do they make 3 and 4 times what the people of the parish make? How much do they think we can afford?
And if the pay isn't good enough, if you don't believe you can make it on the salary the people think is fair, then maybe you shouldn't apply for the job!
I know at least one person running for mayor in the next election has made the statement that he will more than double his current salary. And if it's like past elections I'm sure the first order of business will be a pay raise.
Anyone out there have any clue what it would take to get this decision into the people's hands, and out of the greedy politicians?
I keep hearing how it is time for change, it is time for change! Hey, no one agrees more than me!
If you are running a business and you find yourself short on funds to operate your business you take home less money, or you bankrupt your business! Not these guys, they see themselves short on funds and give themselves raises.
GIVE THEMSELVES RAISES!!
Am I the only one that sees a problem with this picture??? They are not self employed, they work for us! And it's past time we took charge!

nice?? its it out ragus.

it is under what charter we are governed under.
the elected officials has us under a charter that allows them to take a rase when they want.
the state is the one that sets a limit on the judge. sheriff, police jury, the states puts it higher than is needed for our parish.
we are paying for service not rendered. this is i under stand to be illegal
All this is out of control. There are changes that needs to be made.

[Here ya go]

dahling wrote:

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I believe the city government controls its own salaries. As for Bodie, his salary is set by the state. I have looked without sucess to find exactly how it is set and if it is a fixed salary or a salary range. What I have found indicates the sheriff's salary is set as a percentage of the state judges's pay. So, if the state judges get a raise, it triggers an increase in the sheriff's pay. Yes, it is ridiculous. Why should Bodie make pretty close to the sheriffs in Caddo and Bossier parishes? Those parishes are wealthier, have many more people who depend on them, and have more deputies and staff.

this is direct from state law:

RS 33:1421

CHAPTER 3. PUBLIC OFFICERS
PART I. SHERIFFS
SUBPART A. GENERAL PROVISIONS

§1421. Compensation

NOTE: Paragraph (A)(1) eff. until July 1, 2010. See Acts 2007, No. 422,§2.

A.(1) Sheriffs and ex officio tax collectors of the various parishes, including the civil and criminal sheriffs for the parish of Orleans, shall establish their own rates of annual compensation for all services required of them by law which rates shall not exceed the following amounts based on the applicable population of the respective parishes, according to the latest decennial United States census as follows:

Population

Compensation

(a) greater than 400,000

Same as judges of Criminal District Court, Orleans Parish

(b) 400,000 or less

$20,000 less than the salary of sheriffs with populations greater than 400,000

[Here ya go]

He can pay himself 0, the maximum established by the law, or anything in between.

This is to ensure sheriffs are adequately compensated and to allow flexibility for smaller, poorer parishes. The state DOES NOT set the rate of pay. The sheriff does, up to the maximum. Sheriff Jordan payed himself substantially less than the maximum.

Sheriff Little has chosen to pay himself the maximum allowed by law, which is why he earns the same are sheriffs in very large parishes.

[Larry the Cable Guy]

Man this here's funny. If ya could buy him for what he's worth and sell him for what he thought he's worth you could turn a heck of a profit. Lord forgive me but that theres funny.

[dahling]

Here ya go wrote:

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this is direct from state law:
RS 33:1421
CHAPTER 3. PUBLIC OFFICERS
PART I. SHERIFFS
SUBPART A. GENERAL PROVISIONS
§1421. Compensation
NOTE: Paragraph (A)(1) eff. until July 1, 2010. See Acts 2007, No. 422,§2.
A.(1) Sheriffs and ex officio tax collectors of the various parishes, including the civil and criminal sheriffs for the parish of Orleans, shall establish their own rates of annual compensation for all services required of them by law which rates shall not exceed the following amounts based on the applicable population of the respective parishes, according to the latest decennial United States census as follows:
Population
Compensation
(a) greater than 400,000
Same as judges of Criminal District Court, Orleans Parish
(b) 400,000 or less
$20,000 less than the salary of sheriffs with populations greater than 400,000

Thanks so much. I knew it was somehow tied to judges pay, but was not sure exactly how. So, if Bodie says he has cut all he can out of the budget, just ask how much he has cut his own salary. What he takes is scandalous in Winn Parish. I say takes, because IMHO he does not earn it.