Kenilworth trustees vote to push bid ...

Kenilworth trustees vote to push bid for historic status

There are 16 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Aug 5, 2008, titled Kenilworth trustees vote to push bid for historic status. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

A controversial plan to place the Village of Kenilworth on the National Register of Historic Places inched closer to becoming reality when trustees voted Tuesday night to override an attempt to delay action ...

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James

Hanover Park, IL

#1 Aug 5, 2008
Will there be a plaque on the town hall noting how minorities weren't allowed to live there?
Joseph Sears'(The founder) ideals: "Large lots, high standards of construction, no alleys, and sales to Caucasians only."
jak

Melrose Park, IL

#2 Aug 5, 2008
James wrote:
Will there be a plaque on the town hall noting how minorities weren't allowed to live there?
Joseph Sears'(The founder) ideals: "Large lots, high standards of construction, no alleys, and sales to Caucasians only."
It was a racist town, just like the area around it. Evanston and a small section of southwestern Glencoe were notable exceptions. However, there were activists in a few surrounding towns who spoke out against housing discrimination. Martin Luther King spoke about housing discrimination at Village Green in Winnetka, and thousands turned out to listen. Times have changed. Jews were also prohibited from real estate purchases by many real estate agents in the area. Back then, housing discrimination was legal, and some print ads explicitly stated the racial prohibitions.

Back to the topic...I don't believe in historic preservation. My preference is to take pictures for future generations to learn about the history. But older edifices should be replaced with structures that utilize modern, efficient, and green technologies. The residents should be allowed to vote on the issue.
u gotta be kidding

Melrose Park, IL

#3 Aug 5, 2008
these folks are gonna put themselves in a box. LOL!
Mark

Melrose Park, IL

#4 Aug 5, 2008
jak wrote:
<quoted text>
It was a racist town, just like the area around it. Evanston and a small section of southwestern Glencoe were notable exceptions. However, there were activists in a few surrounding towns who spoke out against housing discrimination. Martin Luther King spoke about housing discrimination at Village Green in Winnetka, and thousands turned out to listen. Times have changed. Jews were also prohibited from real estate purchases by many real estate agents in the area. Back then, housing discrimination was legal, and some print ads explicitly stated the racial prohibitions.
Back to the topic...I don't believe in historic preservation. My preference is to take pictures for future generations to learn about the history. But older edifices should be replaced with structures that utilize modern, efficient, and green technologies. The residents should be allowed to vote on the issue.
So let the residents vote. If you don't live there, then why do you care? Also, if you have the money to live in Kenilworth, you can buy there now regardless of your color or religion. So get over the fact that there was housing discrimination in the past. I wonder if the people in England and Ireland would prefer to take pictures of their two thousand year old castles, or keep them around for historical purposes. It is too bad that you don't believe in historical preservation. As far as "modern" and "green" goes, old homes can be renovated to encorporate those aspects. You can't tell people they can do whatever they want and tear down their properties to build something new, but say, "oh, it must be GREEN and MODERN". You can't have your cake and eat it too. Of course unless you're buying for the rest of us.

Since: Aug 08

United States

#5 Aug 5, 2008
Jak -
Right on - historic preservation is largely bogus. OK, let's keep the Parthenon and Wrigley Building, but just keeping old houses and calling them 'historic'( when they are really just old) is stupid.
Robyn

Chicago, IL

#6 Aug 5, 2008
These preservationists are nuts. It is their way or the highway. They dont care whose lives they affect.
Doug

Highland Park, IL

#7 Aug 6, 2008
For a good example of preservationists-gone-wild, check out the townhouse development across from Northbrook Court. There are some sleek modern townhouses which look like they would be very nice if they weren't across from a shopping center. Smack in the middle of the development is what the HP city council calls a "historic farmhouse" - basically an old pile of bricks - the preservation of which was a condition for approval of the rest of the development. Old, yes; historic, no; ugly - beyond belief.
don

Evanston, IL

#8 Aug 6, 2008
Welcome to Kenilworth, where we elected some of the STUPIDEST people to represent us.
daffy

Seattle, WA

#10 Aug 6, 2008
Mark wrote:
<quoted text> So let the residents vote. If you don't live there, then why do you care? Also, if you have the money to live in Kenilworth, you can buy there now regardless of your color or religion. So get over the fact that there was housing discrimination in the past. I wonder if the people in England and Ireland would prefer to take pictures of their two thousand year old castles, or keep them around for historical purposes. It is too bad that you don't believe in historical preservation. As far as "modern" and "green" goes, old homes can be renovated to encorporate those aspects. You can't tell people they can do whatever they want and tear down their properties to build something new, but say, "oh, it must be GREEN and MODERN". You can't have your cake and eat it too. Of course unless you're buying for the rest of us.
I agree. In addition, people are always complaining about lily white suburbs and their country club policies of no minorities, I don't hear about too many caucasians complaining about not being welcome in certain neighborhoods and suburbs. Do yourself a favor and make a left turn onto the two-way street of life. To those people I ask, why would you want to live in Kenilworth? Do you want to live there to make a statement, or to mingle with the rest of the socialist elite? I'm perfectly content living among and socializing with people just like my average self.
And Kenilworth is more than welcome to the registry. If those people earned their right to live there, or at least one of their forefathers earned their right to live there, they are entitled to all of the luxuries Kenilworth and it's historical status has to offer. Rich people have rights too (albeit more of them). Sure the rest of us can't afford them, but maybe we should have studied a little harder in school (or brown-nosed a little more).
Englewood has every chance in the world to be just like Kenilworth. Historical structures included.
richard moe

Lisle, IL

#11 Aug 6, 2008
Do you know what the National Register is? It is merely a list of our country's historic assets. There are no restrictions, reviews or regulatory bodies associated with it. Google "National Register of Historic Places" to access the National Park Service website for more information.

The National Register is not like a restrictive LOCAL historic district. There are National Register districts up and down the North Shore and all over the Chicago area.

Designation is purely honorary and educational, and the nomination includes pictures, as well as some interesting history.
YourKidding_Righ t

Chicago, IL

#12 Aug 8, 2008
I will not reiterate Mr. Moe's synopsis but add that the only restrictions a national register designation puts on a property are not on the owner. It just makes it that much harder for the government to use imminent domain to put a highway through or something (not that I think Kenilworth is in any danger of that happening). It also may give some tax advantages to the owners. The only thing the national register itself can do is to remove the designation as is did in the case of Soldier Field.
Now as to Jak's comment
"My preference is to take pictures for future generations to learn about the history. But older edifices should be replaced with structures that utilize modern, efficient, and green technologies."
This is one of the least "green" ideas on record. Lets start by noting that it is rare that these buildings are being torn down to build anything remotely efficient or green. While some of there technologies are outdated (insulation HAS come a long way in the last century) most of these buildings where intended to be relatively comfortable (at least in the summer) without air conditioning and even in the winter some of them are more efficient (if utilized correctly) than many new buildings. Also the energy already put into the existing buildings is then ignored and the energy needed to tear down and rebuild is almost definately heavy in the use of dirty fossil fuils etc, while most work used to preserve (maintain) a structure is heavy in manual labor (and in case you haven't noticed, one of America's biggest energy reserves is being carried around on our bellies).
YourKidding_Righ t

Chicago, IL

#13 Aug 8, 2008
And as to taking pictures and that being enough--well ignorance must be bliss
East Coast Philly

Gurnee, IL

#14 Aug 17, 2008
In answer to James post stating:"Will there be a plaque on the town hall noting how minorities weren't allowed to live there?"

By minorites you mean of course: Catholics?Jews? Non-protestants????

Answer: IT'S OLD NEWS!!!GET OVER IT!!! Everyone has experienced discrimination at some time on some level-some worse than others. Don't get stuck on stupid(the past). Take lemons and make lemonade. This is America where self determination, self respect and self reliance pays dividends. Too many people from other countries have come here and continue to come here and realize the American Dream-because they want it. If you can see it you can be it.
Livin the Ridge

Plainfield, IL

#15 Oct 10, 2009
Is the Village of Kenilworth similar to the Village of Worth, but with a mighty cool kennel?
Seymore

United States

#16 Oct 12, 2009
Worth should be changed to Worthless.

Kenilworth is Kenilworthmore.
Drunk in Worth

United States

#17 Nov 21, 2009
Seymore wrote:
Worth should be changed to Worthless.
Kenilworth is Kenilworthmore.
Worthless? Where else can you start your day at the crack of noon with a case of Natty Ice! Plus my neighbor has a bucket of broken glass....

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