Two men charged in wake of gun theft

Two men charged in wake of gun theft

There are 16 comments on the Brattleboro Reformer story from Oct 23, 2010, titled Two men charged in wake of gun theft. In it, Brattleboro Reformer reports that:

A 19-year-old Newfane man stands accused of stealing two guns from a home in Windsor with the help of four Windham County teens.

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flat lander

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#1 Oct 23, 2010
Hr fears retaliation of citizens and his buddies but not of the LAW AND COURT SYSTEM. It makes true sense with the way the courts hand out "get out of jail free cards" The POLICE find them and the court sends them on their way with a stiff reminder of "If you do" while back at the ranch his neighbors and citizen are giving the "hairy eyeball" and this worries him. Ya it should and thats not where it ends and he knows so. Happy dreams if you can sleep.
Deployed in Afghanistan

Kabul, Afghanistan

#2 Oct 23, 2010
This is how most firearms end up in the hands of criminals. Not through a legitimate purchase, but by theft. Anti-gun nuts love telling the public that its easy for criminals(just plain bad evil people)to purchase fire arms and that we need more laws. Criminals do not follow the laws, thats why they are criminals. So what happens is the law abiding citizen gets villianized for not locking everything up in an already locked house. What about the turd that breaks into the home and steals firearms? So the next time someone is shot on the street by a superturd, ask yourself this, was it purchased or was it stolen. Most firearms that are recovered are traced back to theft.
mytwocents

South Burlington, VT

#3 Oct 23, 2010
The BATF has declined to prosecute on the FELONY charges! How can they be allowed this dereliction of duty? This legal system of ours is a joke.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#4 Oct 25, 2010
Deployed in Afghanistan wrote:
This is how most firearms end up in the hands of criminals. Not through a legitimate purchase, but by theft. Anti-gun nuts love telling the public that its easy for criminals(just plain bad evil people)to purchase fire arms and that we need more laws. Criminals do not follow the laws, thats why they are criminals. So what happens is the law abiding citizen gets villianized for not locking everything up in an already locked house. What about the turd that breaks into the home and steals firearms? So the next time someone is shot on the street by a superturd, ask yourself this, was it purchased or was it stolen. Most firearms that are recovered are traced back to theft.
So Sheriff, would you support the prosecution of individuals who have failed to properly secure their legally owned firearms?
Deployed in Afghanistan

Kabul, Afghanistan

#5 Oct 25, 2010
Vermont citizen wrote:
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So Sheriff, would you support the prosecution of individuals who have failed to properly secure their legally owned firearms?
Are you for real. Why would you do anything to the owner of the firearm. It was her/his home dwelling that was invaded and burglerized. You are of the mentality in this country that makes the firearm owner guilty for the crime commited by a theif.
PS I am not a sheriff
jway

Tuscumbia, AL

#6 Oct 25, 2010
Vermont citizen wrote:
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So Sheriff, would you support the prosecution of individuals who have failed to properly secure their legally owned firearms?
Your home or property is suppose to be secure, including ones person, from theft and injury!! For your answer Hell No!!
flat lader

United States

#8 Oct 25, 2010
I live in a old bank and they still broke in Mr Nick Moll is a hero of bellows falls and his Dad is a prime example of "not my son" and using his help and guidance to raise the perfect loser. when are they going to go after the parents for failing at what is expected of parents having sex. Is this why they say sex is dirty or the f word describes both the parents and the results "little nicky"

Since: Jul 10

Brattleboro, VT

#9 Oct 25, 2010
Deployed in Afghanistan wrote:
This is how most firearms end up in the hands of criminals. Not through a legitimate purchase, but by theft. Anti-gun nuts love telling the public that its easy for criminals(just plain bad evil people)to purchase fire arms and that we need more laws. Criminals do not follow the laws, thats why they are criminals. So what happens is the law abiding citizen gets villianized for not locking everything up in an already locked house. What about the turd that breaks into the home and steals firearms? So the next time someone is shot on the street by a superturd, ask yourself this, was it purchased or was it stolen. Most firearms that are recovered are traced back to theft.
You're exactly right, most of the guns circulating on the black market were purchased legally and stolen from law-abiding citizens. Others (particularly assault weapons) are purchased legally for the purpose of selling on to the black market. Given the easy flow of guns from legal to illegal hands, it follows that the more legal guns there are, the more illegal guns there also are. They're the same guns. Most of the guns used by murderous Mexican cartels are imported from the U.S., since Mexico has stricter gun laws and we have almost none.

The interpretation of the 2nd Amendment to apply to individuals rather than militias is mainly an emotional one on the part of guns nuts, including those on the Supreme Court. Most free countries are free of gun violence compared to the U.S. because you can't just get and carry handguns and assault weapons willy-nilly. Fewer guns out there, fewer to steal, fewer used in crimes.

We're emulating Somalia and Yemen.
Deployed in Afghanistan

United States

#10 Oct 26, 2010
New Clear Waste wrote:
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You're exactly right, most of the guns circulating on the black market were purchased legally and stolen from law-abiding citizens. Others (particularly assault weapons) are purchased legally for the purpose of selling on to the black market. Given the easy flow of guns from legal to illegal hands, it follows that the more legal guns there are, the more illegal guns there also are. They're the same guns. Most of the guns used by murderous Mexican cartels are imported from the U.S., since Mexico has stricter gun laws and we have almost none.
The interpretation of the 2nd Amendment to apply to individuals rather than militias is mainly an emotional one on the part of guns nuts, including those on the Supreme Court. Most free countries are free of gun violence compared to the U.S. because you can't just get and carry handguns and assault weapons willy-nilly. Fewer guns out there, fewer to steal, fewer used in crimes.
We're emulating Somalia and Yemen.
The weapons that you talk about used by the drug cartel in Mexico came from the Mexican government. The assault weapons, grenade launchers, hand grenades and body armor were bought or traded illegally from the corrupt Mexican police or military. The claim that they were purchased legally in the USA by someone and then sold to the drug cartels is false. Our government supplied at Mexicoís request. You cannot buy those things at a gun store. Ask any BATFE agent and they will educate you further.
You have proved my point that people like you accuse the victim of wrongdoing or negligence rather then hold the criminal responsible for their actions/crimes. Guns donít kill by themselves, people using them do. Take away all the guns in the world and guess what? Someone will bash your head in with a club or slice your throat wide open. Do you know why? Because violent evil people exists all around the world. If someone wants to kill you in say, Afghanistan or the middle east, they usually donít waste a bullet if they donít need to, they hack your head off with a knife.

Since: Jul 10

Brattleboro, VT

#11 Oct 26, 2010
Deployed in Afghanistan wrote:
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The weapons that you talk about used by the drug cartel in Mexico came from the Mexican government. The assault weapons, grenade launchers, hand grenades and body armor were bought or traded illegally from the corrupt Mexican police or military. The claim that they were purchased legally in the USA by someone and then sold to the drug cartels is false. Our government supplied at Mexicoís request. You cannot buy those things at a gun store. Ask any BATFE agent and they will educate you further.
You have proved my point that people like you accuse the victim of wrongdoing or negligence rather then hold the criminal responsible for their actions/crimes. Guns donít kill by themselves, people using them do. Take away all the guns in the world and guess what? Someone will bash your head in with a club or slice your throat wide open. Do you know why? Because violent evil people exists all around the world. If someone wants to kill you in say, Afghanistan or the middle east, they usually donít waste a bullet if they donít need to, they hack your head off with a knife.
First, you have your facts wrong. Serial numbers on guns, including automatic weapons, seized from Mexican drug cartels, show that many were purchased in the U.S. and then smuggled.

Secondly, you're right that, absent guns, people would find other ways to kill each other. It's just that killing with a gun is a lot easier, quicker, and more effective than other means. You can do it at long range; you can do it to a larger person or multiple people at a time. You can kill in anger or by mistake in a split second before you've thought about what you're doing. Stabbing often isn't fatal; when was the last time you heard about a nut going on a stabbing spree and killing a dozen people? Face it, more legal guns mean more illegal guns, and less security. Hunting is one thing, but gun nuts' insistence on handguns and larger weapons is purely emotional, not rational. You can defend your home with a rifle. And no amount of personal firearms is going to protect you against a tyrannical government, you need movements of people for that.
jway

Tuscumbia, AL

#12 Oct 26, 2010
NCW. You cant get all tour stats and facts from move on. org or NPR. YOU ARE WRONG wrong-------. 1 there are 3 times the stabbings as gun shot. In this country last wk 3 died.These don't seem to make headlines. Europe, their crime rate has climbed sharply since restrictions on guns their govs try and keep a lid on the stats.. Ours has been going down especially since right to carry nation wide THE BUMS DONT KNOW IS ARMED. Mexico is becoming one of the most corrupt nations on earth "SEE WHAT DRUGS CAND DO"! Deployed is right, and that is why Mexican officials would not give serial no. out except the "FEW" they seized from a border crossing.A lot of full autos came from El Salvador an Colombia. Stick to VY or something else instead of making up lies and making ya self look stupid! That sh-- ya smoke is worse than VY pollution!
Deployed in Afghanistan

Kabul, Afghanistan

#13 Oct 26, 2010
New Clear Waste

Since: Jul 10

399

Brattleboro, VT
Stabbing often isn't fatal; when was the last time you heard about a nut going on a stabbing spree and killing a dozen people?

Twice so far this year in China. I see you do not keep up with current events world wide.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#14 Oct 27, 2010
Deployed in Afghanistan wrote:
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Are you for real. Why would you do anything to the owner of the firearm. It was her/his home dwelling that was invaded and burglerized. You are of the mentality in this country that makes the firearm owner guilty for the crime commited by a theif.
PS I am not a sheriff
So why is it in many states illegal to leave your keys in the car? Seems to be the same logic.
Joe

Belmont, VT

#15 Oct 27, 2010
New Clear Waste wrote:
<quoted text>
You're exactly right, most of the guns circulating on the black market were purchased legally and stolen from law-abiding citizens. Others (particularly assault weapons) are purchased legally for the purpose of selling on to the black market. Given the easy flow of guns from legal to illegal hands, it follows that the more legal guns there are, the more illegal guns there also are. They're the same guns. Most of the guns used by murderous Mexican cartels are imported from the U.S., since Mexico has stricter gun laws and we have almost none.
The interpretation of the 2nd Amendment to apply to individuals rather than militias is mainly an emotional one on the part of guns nuts, including those on the Supreme Court. Most free countries are free of gun violence compared to the U.S. because you can't just get and carry handguns and assault weapons willy-nilly. Fewer guns out there, fewer to steal, fewer used in crimes.
We're emulating Somalia and Yemen.
How's the mexican government doing protecting the unarmed population ?

what you libs fear is some gang banger popping a few rounds in your direction for being annoying, like driving slow in your 240 volvo or in the left lane tying up traffic
flat lander

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#16 Oct 27, 2010
my God JOE that was my Volvo and I was glad I was drunk and they couldn't out maneuver my drunken driving and I took a few rounds but escaped their actions and being a Volvo my tail lights didn't work. How was I to know who SNOOKI was and her plow boys.
Joe

Belmont, VT

#17 Oct 29, 2010
flat lander wrote:
my God JOE that was my Volvo and I was glad I was drunk and they couldn't out maneuver my drunken driving and I took a few rounds but escaped their actions and being a Volvo my tail lights didn't work. How was I to know who SNOOKI was and her plow boys.
Next time they will get you, the tea party is in favor of gun control and will promote proper training in how to shoot straight.

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