Struggling Mollie Ray Elementary give...

Struggling Mollie Ray Elementary given one year to improve

There are 14 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Jul 30, 2008, titled Struggling Mollie Ray Elementary given one year to improve. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

An F-rated Orange County elementary school has one year to improve dismal student performance or face harsh sanctions that include the possibility of shutting down.

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Dr Bunsen Honeydew

Oviedo, FL

#1 Jul 30, 2008
I read the entire article wondering what part of town this school was in, and it never said (nice reporting Slantinel). After researching it on my own, I found out where it is (Pine Hills). Judging by location, I am not surprised at the poor performance of it's students.
southern girl

Ocala, FL

#2 Jul 30, 2008
Can't plant flowers when you ain't got no dirt...or You can't make chicken salad from chicken s#%$. Either expression would apply beautifully to this situation.
TheRunningNurse

Eustis, FL

#3 Jul 30, 2008
Close the school ? What a stupid idea.
It is not the schools fault....it is the PARENTS FAULT. Poor, minority and a 1/3 don't speak English so they are having to learn it now. HELLO !

If there were some way to hold parents responsible for their kid's acedemic success....like hold their welfare check
Drew

Bedford, TX

#4 Jul 30, 2008
What I find interesting is the wide variation in grades. A school may change some aspects of academic content but likely the content of the curriculum did not change much since they were A-rated. What did change however was administration (which could lead to morale issues which trickle down to the students), community involvement, and likely PARENTAL involvement. When the entire community wasn't focused on saving the school, the students failed. When the parents and local businesses were showing support, the students did well. I guess interest in the children's education was a fad that passed... but make sure you blame the school and teachers, not the community. That's not allowed.
Tomb

United States

#6 Jul 30, 2008
Close it and turn it into a detention center. The police won't have to transport the criminals so far, we will save gas money.
Maxfield

Plymouth, MN

#7 Jul 30, 2008
How horrible for the students at the school these low performers will be transferred to when Mollie Ray closes. I would be worried about my child's safety around these hoodlums.
Time to look for a private school.

Since: Feb 08

United States

#8 Jul 30, 2008
Instead of the threats and the removal of personel at the schools, just get rid of some of the people at the Board of Education. We all know there are people there gambling on these kids' futures.

If they'd stop raising the standards every year or six months most of these schools wouldn't fail the grading level. Which I think that whol FCAT system is the biggest joke the state of Florida has made ever.

I grew up in that area between Mollie Ray and Evans in the mid-90's and didn't have a problem with safety. So stop with the stereotyping of Pine Hils.
Henry Hill

Orlando, FL

#9 Jul 30, 2008
If the school would have decent teachers helping the students learn instead of crappy teachers aides teaching them, they might do a little better. Still, it is in Pine Hills so maybe that might not work. Maybe the administration that left was doctoring the grades on the FCAT to make it look like the school was doing better and when they left the real grades came out. Who knows?
school memories

Port Orange, FL

#10 Jul 30, 2008
I would think that the previous administration would share best practices with the current administration. The current personnel could do measurement surveys and adjust accordingly and then remeasure and see if the changes produce improvement. I suppose they could do retroactive measurements but usually it works better if you act proactively.
Having made that statement everyone can pay no attention to it because it will not happen. I subbed for two years for OCPS and taught for a while as a classroom teacher. Every school There is no county wide academic policy. Each school's administation buys whatever academic books they think they need from whichever publisher they chose to buy from for their specific school. I remember the years I subbed I picked up a lot of social studies and language art classes(although I subbed almost anything OCPS called me for) Ninth grade English was different in all four high schools I went to. They all had different books and were doing different objectives. If there is a student who transfers in the middle of a semester that student would be lost. It happened when I was teaching. A student came from either Evans or Jones to the school I was at. Same class name(Intensive Reading) but completely different program. The student is already in a reading class because they have failed to make grade level on the FCAT and now must jump into a new reading program that is unfamilar.
Hillsborough uses they same books for all the schools. Even when I was in school it was like that. All ninth graders had the white grammar book with the yellow orange swirls. The next year it was the brown and tan swirls. When I used to go to Junior Achievement we all used to study together. It didn't matter if it was Plant, Leto, King or Chamberlin we all had the same for the same grade. Some classes were ahead or behind by a week or two.
So I don't know what the solution is. There probaly never will be one. The best suggestion I have is for the school personnel to actually start visiting homes. If you come to them they will show an interest.
Concerned

United States

#12 Jul 31, 2008
I taught at Mollie Ray for two years, so I am speaking from firsthand experience...No amount of drastic measures taken by OPCS or the state will be able to raise test scores until the root of the problem is addressed. These kids come to school unprepared to learn! For many of the students at Mollie Ray, school is the only safe haven they have in their lives. School is the only place these kids get fed and the only place there is any type of "calm" in their lives. If any type of action is going to work at helping these struggling students then it HAS to start in the home. Hold the PARENTS accountable for their children's basic needs and behavior. No curriculum change, change in administation, or intensive state intervention can address the fact that it's basic PSYCH 101...if the most basic needs of food, shelter and safety are not met, then very limited learning is ever going to take place. Closing Mollie Ray and placing the students in other schools will not solve the educational problems of these kids all that this would do is spread out the pool of bad parenting.
Mitch

Charleston, SC

#13 Oct 27, 2008
I went to Mollie Ray back in the sixties, and have fond memories of learning and making friends there. That was when our schools were places to learn rather than destinations to be bussed to in order to be fed, babysat, and controlled. I agree with the comment above: blame the parents and administrators, not the teachers. Withhold the welfare checks of parents whose kids disrupt, send some of the administrators back to the classroom, and watch how quickly learning improves.
babycakes

United States

#14 Jan 25, 2013
I disagree i went mollie ray 2011and i loved it they might be an f school but they so taught me something 2-5was a great experience so dont blame nobody but the administers

Since: Jun 11

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#15 Jan 25, 2013
babycakes wrote:
I disagree i went mollie ray 2011and i loved it they might be an f school but they so taught me something 2-5was a great experience so dont blame nobody but the administers
Here's the closest I can get to a proper translation:

I disagree. I went to Mollie Ray and graduated in 2011. I loved the experience and although the school received an 'F' rating, I feel that I learned a great deal in my time there. 2-5 was a great experience and whatever blame that should leveled should be aimed at the administration.

And the scary thing is that the poster could well be the Valedictorian of their class.

Any nore questions on why the school got an F rating?

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#16 Jan 25, 2013
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