Solar, wind are sacred cows to some

[litesong]

koz wrote:

<quoted text>Take that away and see what happens to Seattle.

Not much. Get stronger conservation programs, caulk some doors & windows, turn temps down 1 degree, use some more hydro & escalate wind turbine constructions would fill out the gap.

[SolarInstaller]

Honky Lips wrote:

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Just ask yourself "who do you want to buy electricity from" the solar company or the elec Co.
If you're in your early 20's maybe you'll break even by the time you're 70.
What are the odds you'll be in your home for 50 years. The woman you'll marry will want her own home, not something you have.

No matter what state you live in a 50 year pay off is incorrect. Pay off for PV systems in PA is between 20 to 25 years- WITHOUT the upcoming rebate factored in. This payoff period does not take into account ANY increase in electricity costs. Realistically PA citizens should really come to grips with the fact that their 2010 utility bills will be UGLY. The sky is the limit once the rate caps expire. Look at all of the states around us and see what they are paying for electricity-we pay a 1/3 of what some of our neighbors pay.

[koz]

litesong wrote:

Not much. Get stronger conservation programs, caulk some doors & windows, turn temps down 1 degree, use some more hydro & escalate wind turbine constructions would fill out the gap.

Dreamer. Most of what you propose would reduce only natural gas consumption.