Clark Middle principal covers up deat...

Clark Middle principal covers up death threats against students.

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mad winchester resident

Winchester, KY

#1 Sep 28, 2008
This principal needs to be fired in my opinion. Anyone who has had any dealings with her knows she doesn't care about the children. Trying to meet with her is like trying to set up an appointment with the president. I wonder why they felt the need to cover this up. I doubt it has anything to do with school policy.
KY Girl

Winchester, KY

#2 Sep 28, 2008
I can't find the full story on this anywhere? What happened?
mad winchester resident

Winchester, KY

#3 Sep 28, 2008
KY Girl wrote:
I can't find the full story on this anywhere? What happened?
WKYT.COM has the story.. I guess some kids were writing death threats to a bunch of kids and putting them in their lockers. The school knew about it when it happened, but did not deem it necessary to let the parents know
crazy one

Winchester, KY

#4 Sep 28, 2008
mad winchester resident wrote:
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WKYT.COM has the story.. I guess some kids were writing death threats to a bunch of kids and putting them in their lockers. The school knew about it when it happened, but did not deem it necessary to let the parents know
I agree the Principal needs to be let go if she wants to hide this kind of thing. That isnt good for the kids or winchester. That is a self centered act in my opinion
lookahere

United States

#5 Sep 29, 2008
very interesting
Angry Parent

Palo Alto, CA

#6 Oct 1, 2008
Pam Whitesides is a horrible principal. I have tried to talk to her several times over my child being bullied. She wont even return a phone call or email. She is a joke
Angrier Parent

Lexington, KY

#7 Oct 14, 2008
WTF we have 2 kids going there and heard NOTHING about this. These people are proving themselves more and more incompetent every day.
What happened

Palo Alto, CA

#8 Oct 15, 2008
I heard the kid who made the death threats to several students got suspended for 10 days. If the faculty does not start addressing these issues of bullying with the children, I am afraid something may happen that's a lot more serious than a note.
ex teacher

Mount Sterling, KY

#9 Oct 19, 2008
I have taught at 4 of the schools in clark county and was fired the first time beacause i told a principal at one of the middle schools that a kid had a gun in the locker. when i mentioned to an officer i was "relocated" then i lost my job permanently when at one of the middle schools my student attacked me and even laid in wait in the bushes with a gun but no one heard about that
needless to say i no longer teach
mad winchester resident

Winchester, KY

#10 Oct 19, 2008
ex teacher wrote:
I have taught at 4 of the schools in clark county and was fired the first time beacause i told a principal at one of the middle schools that a kid had a gun in the locker. when i mentioned to an officer i was "relocated" then i lost my job permanently when at one of the middle schools my student attacked me and even laid in wait in the bushes with a gun but no one heard about that
needless to say i no longer teach
How long ago has this been? Was Pam the principal? I swear I can not stand her. None of the children like her and it isn't because she is strict. It's because she has her picks and when someone goes to her with a problem she shucks them off
ex teacher

Mount Sterling, KY

#11 Oct 19, 2008
it was all 4 schools and no she wasn't there yet
mad winchester resident

Winchester, KY

#12 Oct 19, 2008
ex teacher wrote:
it was all 4 schools and no she wasn't there yet
Well good luck with whatever you from here on out. It's a shame what happened to you.
Middle School Parent

Winchester, KY

#13 Oct 21, 2008
Pam Whitesides, Mr. Holland and Ed Musgrove are all sorry examples of authority figures in our school system. Try having one of them return a phone call or anything for you and see how that works out. It's just a matter a time. Parent's are getting pissed off and are tired of the same old crap day in and day out at CMS. I know I will be calling Frankfort on them tomorrow, and if this doesn't resolve my issues I will be contacting the news station.
A Volunteer

Pineville, KY

#14 Oct 21, 2008
Middle School Parent wrote:
Pam Whitesides, Mr. Holland and Ed Musgrove are all sorry examples of authority figures in our school system. Try having one of them return a phone call or anything for you and see how that works out. It's just a matter a time. Parent's are getting pissed off and are tired of the same old crap day in and day out at CMS. I know I will be calling Frankfort on them tomorrow, and if this doesn't resolve my issues I will be contacting the news station.
It'a about time someone stand up to these people. If the public really knew all that goes on at CMS and in the county they would be appalled.
I applaud you in your willingness to do something.
Ptimes2

Clarksville, TN

#15 Oct 22, 2008
If the schools are really this bad, should anyone with proof or thoughts bring these out in some kind of public meeting? These are our children we are talking about and I don't want to ever hear of a shooting at school here in Winchester! We really need to address the things that are being said about these people and make sure the codes are being followed and rules are put into place! We can not just have our picks, doesn't it say No Child Left Behind?

We have to protect the children, they can not always see whats coming.. We are the parents and it is our duty to make sure things are going the way they should. If it is this bad, we need to pull together and keep all informed and make sure we are all at the nest meeting or make a meeting our selves...
parent

Winchester, KY

#16 Oct 22, 2008
That school has gone down hill ever since Pam became principal. I also know for a fact that teachers have gone to other schools and filed complaints on her and nothing has ever happened. As parents we don't understand why it is not a red flag when EVERY year she has the largest turn-over in her staff and about the only people she can get is new straigh out of college teachers and then even they don't stay. WHAY IS GOING ON... If you have a chance put your child at Conkwright Middle (much better choice)the teachers over there are wonderful.
Concerned Parent

Palo Alto, CA

#17 Oct 22, 2008
I think for the most part, the teachers at CMS are ok, it's just the principals. From what I hear the staff doesn't like Pam either. I am afraid that they still dont comprehend the seriousness of the bullying. When we were kids, we had a fight, someone loss, someone won. A couple days later, all was good. We all dealt with bullies, it was just part of it. Today these kids kill each other. Not one time since my child has been in Clark Middle do I think they have addressed the bullying issue with the students. Not one day has gone by that I dont sit and wonder what is going to happen at the school today. It's a shame.
anonymous

Winchester, KY

#18 Oct 22, 2008
sounds like a horrible situation over there
I AGREE

United States

#19 Oct 25, 2008
Pam W. is a horrible administrator. She must have something on someone at Central Office, or she would have been gone a long time ago. I don't understand why Site Based Council doesn't get rid of her. They must be afraid to stand up to her, too. She surely knows something on someone in the county or she wouldn't have a job there, still. Has anyone ever checked on the teacher turn over rate at CMS. Every year there's practically a whole new staff of teachers. They keep losing good teachers and keeping a principal who just plain sucks!
Another concerned parent

Winchester, KY

#20 Oct 25, 2008
I think anyone who has seen the way she runs the school will agree that Pam Whitesides is a very poor leader and her behavior is extremely unprofessional. So Mr. Musgrove, why haven't you addressed this issue? My understanding is that there is a file cabinet full of documentated complaints against her, yet you do nothing.

People: we address this issue by voting out the school board and putting pressure on our representatives to 'lean' on Mr. Musgrove. If he doesn't take action, maybe his replacement will.

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