4-day workweeks: City studies change to cut costs amid deficit

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Obtaining a building permit or paying your taxes this summer might mean having to get to City Hall by Thursday. Full Story
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all things equal

El Paso, TX

#1 Apr 23, 2009
It's a good start, but the City needs to cut 8-hours from the payroll-per-employee also. You need to furlough every non-essential employee, or at least 1/3 of the employees. PD and Fire also have to cease overtime pay as well. I like City Hall being closed 3-days-per-week also.
Anne

El Paso, TX

#2 Apr 23, 2009
Why doesn't the City get more aggressive on collecting fines and such? Isn't there somewhere around $6million outstanding on the books? That's almost half the deficit.

Cooling down the buildings? Is Joyce oblivious or what? Leave the cooling off for three days in the summer here will make it much harder to cool down the building on Monday morning, negating any savings! The most efficient way to keep a building a certain temperature is to set the thermostat and forget it. Anyone who lived through the 70s understands this - or should. Why else would we still be being constantly told to get programmable thermostats to save money?
in el paso

El Paso, TX

#3 Apr 23, 2009
Way to go Anne, someone who is acutally thinking. There is no reason why the city cannot operate on a four day work week. If they would require people to use the internet services more they could save even more. The PD works a 4-10 program now and it helped moral a lot when they converted to this program. Another point made about collection of fines. Maybe if the city actually collected those fines and enforced quality of life issues like the trash, weeds and junk in peoples yards they could make up for this.

Just to add another point whose bright idea was it to build a park on the side of a mountain by El Paso HS. This will cost millions to make ball fields that are flat enough and the rain will wash this out anyway.
Flatulent Pete

El Paso, TX

#4 Apr 23, 2009
It doesn't take that long to cool down the building, plus without the constant loss of 'cooler' air thru the doors, the system won't have to work as much. My suggestion has always been forbid the employees from bringing in the space heaters and fans. Those are energy hogs.
Skeptic

AOL

#5 Apr 23, 2009
Anne wrote:
Why doesn't the City get more aggressive on collecting fines and such? Isn't there somewhere around $6million outstanding on the books? That's almost half the deficit.
Cooling down the buildings? Is Joyce oblivious or what? Leave the cooling off for three days in the summer here will make it much harder to cool down the building on Monday morning, negating any savings! The most efficient way to keep a building a certain temperature is to set the thermostat and forget it. Anyone who lived through the 70s understands this - or should. Why else would we still be being constantly told to get programmable thermostats to save money?
Anne for City Manager.
just more rhetoric

El Paso, TX

#6 Apr 23, 2009
The cost savings is the equivalent of probably a truly non-essential salaried position. I know we all have to do more with less, and although I would not like to see someone lose their position, as many are already unemployed, we do need to reevaluate job duties and descriptions.
roger

El Paso, TX

#7 Apr 23, 2009
I'm just happy to see the city is finally waking up to reality, four day work weeks should be great for moral! Better late than never. Now about the quality of life issues. Start cutting off those city inspectors who turn their heads to family and friends with junked vehicles and unkept yards and put someone in who wants to work and make this city the proud city it used to be back in the 50's and 60's...Let the younger generation feel what we used to feel "Happy and Proud to live in EL PASO.
StuckInElPasoDot Com

Columbus, OH

#8 Apr 23, 2009
Wow. Typical shady El Paso government thinking. Instead of a good, sound audit of the wasteful spending of the exorbitant property taxes we residents pay, they come up with this hair-brained idea. Yeah of course its "good for morale" for these already lazy employees. But it will be bad for morale for the tax-paying resident that actually needs city/county services that are already difficult to get inside a 5 day work week. I can't tell you how many times I've gone to a city or county office between Mon-Friday only to be left in a long line, get turned away due to a lunch break, or find out the office is closed due to some obscure Mexican holiday not on the US federal holiday schedule. But I guess seeing how there are so many unemployed people here that only affects the folks that work for a living during a regular work week.
dustofelpaso

El Paso, TX

#9 Apr 23, 2009
Found it!!

Everybody can relax now, I found that 14 million we were looking for. No need to go to a 4 day a week work schedule and inconvience the rest of the galaxy who will remain on the 5 day a week plan.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_1220...
am I the only one

United States

#10 Apr 23, 2009
I can't recall El Paso ever so being so far in the hole then what we are right now. Get rid of the city manager and her assistant, we didn't need them before, we don't need them now. Let the mayor (perferably a new one) do the job like all the mayors did before him. El Paso isn't rich enough to afford one. My taxes have near doubled since crook took office, and there is no accounting from him or the council. Does anyone remember when the news broke from the elec. company on how they overcharged us, the avarage customer, and that it was going to city council to decide what to do with the overage? Any one get a share of it, I sure the h e l l didn't. Did we ever learn what happend to it? Get rid of the current city council and bring in new blood, I'd far rather have an inexperinced person sitting on council then the thieves we have now. Quit voting for the party and vote for the person.
Meanie

El Paso, TX

#12 Apr 23, 2009
"The City needs to cut 8 hours from the payroll per employee also"??? Wherever you work at, they need to cut your 8 hours from the payroll too. How do you feel about that?
all things equal wrote:
It's a good start, but the City needs to cut 8-hours from the payroll-per-employee also. You need to furlough every non-essential employee, or at least 1/3 of the employees. PD and Fire also have to cease overtime pay as well. I like City Hall being closed 3-days-per-week also.
FEDUP

El Paso, TX

#13 Apr 23, 2009
City manager Joyce Wilson and mayor Cook, as well as all city and county politicians should take a pay cut! They should be forced to stay home one day a week without compensation!
What's good for the goose should also be good for the gander!
The city employees that can least afford to work one day less will be the only losers here, while these jackal politicians will still be freeloading and gorging themselves at the public trough!
Where's the savings in that?
Mayor Cook will have you believe in fairies, that one day furlough will save the city money!
What a crock!
Why don't you go to solar heating, and solar panels on city buildings to produce energy and stop paying the electric company's inflated electric rates?
In the long run this alternative energy source will save the city thousands of dollars, and thus city employees won't have to endure one day off without pay!
This idea is too simple and makes too much sense and the politicians won't even consider it!
What a bunch of nincompoops we have running our city!
wastefull spending

United States

#14 Apr 23, 2009
first of all get rid of the city manager position. what exactly does she manage? let the mayor worry about the city. isn't that his job? start charging inmates for medical treatments. they have the best medical coverage in the city. stop driving around in city vehicles and using gas cards to fill up why don't they use their own money? start collecting outstanding fines and stop giving yourselves fat raises.
TAKE A NUMBER

El Paso, TX

#15 Apr 23, 2009
I guess the building permits that take months to review now will take even longer now that the employees will be open three and half days (thursday will become friday with half a day wasted). The waiting hours to speak with the plan checkers will take longer with having more people and same plan checkers. The waiting for inspections will now start at 11:00 instead of 10:00 while having to wait longer for inspectors to arrive, since they get of at 7:00. This is what I call stimulating the economy, by the way the 150 dollars over three months comes out to $12 for one day (6 gallons???)
TSM

El Paso, TX

#16 Apr 23, 2009
I have a nephew that works for the city of Weatherford they went from 5 to 4 day work week, guess what hes making the same. The kicker, now when hes on calls whether than being paid time and half he gets double time.

This is just another liberal feel good moment at taxpayers expense!
TBL

El Paso, TX

#17 Apr 23, 2009
There is certainly better ways to save money thant a measley $47,000.00

Cut the stupid consulting agreements and a few non-essential managers.
Petro

United States

#18 Apr 23, 2009
SOB!!! Lazy suckers to begin with and now they are going to vote to only work 4 days a week! GEEEZ! I wonder how this vote is going to turn out?
Evaluate

United States

#19 Apr 23, 2009
The city workers are as bad as the workers at the post office, none of them care. It is about time they bring in someone from the outside to evaluate all the positions and get rid of the excess and lazy ones. They could pay the outside company with the money they save by going to a temporary 4 day work week. Have you wondered why everyone else in the nation is expected to do more with less and in our city they only want to cut back instaed of taking care of the problems. I see another tax increase coming.

“Proud Skeptic!”

Since: Feb 08

El Paso

#20 Apr 23, 2009
"I know $47,000 doesn't seem like a lot, but every penny counts," City Manager Joyce Wilson said.

Where was Joyce when Johnny-on-the-spot-Cook was wasting our million$ in taxpayer dollars fighting his pet projects like Asarco, the border fence, and the Texas death penalty tour?
Publius

Sacramento, CA

#21 Apr 23, 2009
I work at UTEP, and almost everyone I work with stretches the work to fit the week. I'm told often to slow down as if I'm trying make others look bad.

We all have anecdotes about city and county workers who work less hard than we do. Cutting their hours, and their pay is a fine way to make the sentence fit the crime.

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