Big developments in Wilson case

Big developments in Wilson case

There are 104 comments on the WIVB Buffalo story from Sep 9, 2008, titled Big developments in Wilson case. In it, WIVB Buffalo reports that:

Big developments Tuesday night in the sexual abuse case involving three Wilson High School students.

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Finally

Olean, NY

#1 Sep 9, 2008
nope , hope wilson Adults on the school board vote NO ! justice needs to be served for the victims !!
those young adults need to know what the law is and they broke it. they need to figure out how to get private tutoring if anyone would want to teach them.
adam

Vestal, NY

#3 Sep 10, 2008
apparantly these students minds are not functioning to average capacity....have them evaluated and put in the special ed school they need to be in...they are Gods special children...thier lawyers are trying to get them the best "deal" they can...but the DA is standing tall with plead guilty or go to trial (this is the best DA stance i have ever seen).....if you can't do the time don't do the crime.
Mama712

Buffalo, NY

#4 Sep 10, 2008
I am just wondering why we charge all the criminals with a higher crime and ALWAYS plead down?????

Why are these kids not being charged with the crimes they committed?????????

Why do we even have a justice system if it does not work???
Silver Stag

Buffalo, NY

#5 Sep 10, 2008
These individuals SHOULD be READY to ACCEPT FULL RESPONSIBILITY for what they DID. Hope they get the maximum sentences & fines for their "day of fun". Maybe they'll FINALLY LEARN SOMETHING! They don't need school for this lesson, THEY NEED A CONSCIENCE.
Lynn

Buffalo, NY

#6 Sep 10, 2008
Prosecutors in Wilson have nothing else to do.

Since: Apr 08

AOL

#8 Sep 10, 2008
Personally ,I would like to know when WCS started backing up order's of protection. I know several times (over the years) when children's parents got them as a last resort .To STOP bulling that had gone on for years in one case! And the parents where told by the superintended that they would NOT in force the order in the school.....

So now there are going to???? Please do not get me wrong ,I totally agree these kids shouldn't be in the building.The victims have been threw enough,But lets make this a standing rule .If there is enough evidence for the courts to order,a order of protection then..
It should be up held by the school!!!!!!

This is just my opinion
get on with it already

Purchase, NY

#9 Sep 10, 2008
andy vona should be EMBARRASSED to have even taken the one defendant's case. may that always rest on his soul when judgement day comes. if you are "what you eat" then i guess you could say "you are what you represent".
Reader

Buffalo, NY

#10 Sep 10, 2008
Forget about the court appearances...all the excitement was at the BOE meeting. Now the media would have really eaten that up!

Talk about cover-up and not doing the right thing. Be sure to be there when the SRO comes back. What an exciting show!
patriot

Buffalo, NY

#11 Sep 10, 2008
Mama712 wrote:
I am just wondering why we charge all the criminals with a higher crime and ALWAYS plead down?????
Why are these kids not being charged with the crimes they committed?????????
Why do we even have a justice system if it does not work???
The judicial system accepts lesser pleas for a few reasons.
One reason is, the case is sometimes overcharged..done to cover anything that the cops might not have gotten correct. Felonies sometimes, just become violations or ACD'S in the end...so you have to wonder why!
Secondly, the proof is missing, weak or people are not willing to testify!
Thirdly, many judges do like the plea process, which attorney's desire for their clients also, so the judges and lawyers, will have an easier and shorter day... simplisticly stated!
Pleas are usually a combination of a few or all of the above!
This is the operation of the NY STATE judicial system for many years!
patriot

Buffalo, NY

#12 Sep 10, 2008
Wilson Mom wrote:
Personally ,I would like to know when WCS started backing up order's of protection. I know several times (over the years) when children's parents got them as a last resort .To STOP bulling that had gone on for years in one case! And the parents where told by the superintended that they would NOT in force the order in the school.....


So now there are going to???? Please do not get me wrong ,I totally agree these kids shouldn't be in the building.The victims have been threw enough,But lets make this a standing rule .If there is enough evidence for the courts to order,a order of protection then..
It should be up held by the school!!!!!!
This is just my opinion
If a judge states that a person must stay away from another,within an order of protection, that order must be enforced.
With a school situation, they may qualify the order to read that there not be offensive contact with a person, and the school day contacts remain, if civil and appropriate for eductional purposes!
The NY state law is the law and the school must abide by that order, if a state jusge includes behavior within the school!
Maybe the orders of protection, were not properly drawn up..which is common in some towns and smaller areas, where these orders are poorly drafted!
Always make sure in court proceedings that whatever you want covered...you put on the record. The record is vital, and that is OF COURSE, if that court does not participate in altering transcripts...a common practice within the NY COURTS!
Duh

Lisbon, ME

#13 Sep 10, 2008
If all you A******* recall, the felony charges were dropped because there was no evidence at all. Why haven't the medical record been brought up, oh yeah there are none or they show nothing. The DA is grasping for straws. They have no case and money is the main motivation behind the parents going on ESPN and ruining there kids reputations. They are 14 years old and they sleep with their parents? haha
For real

Buffalo, NY

#14 Sep 10, 2008
Duh wrote:
If all you A******* recall, the felony charges were dropped because there was no evidence at all. Why haven't the medical record been brought up, oh yeah there are none or they show nothing. The DA is grasping for straws. They have no case and money is the main motivation behind the parents going on ESPN and ruining there kids reputations. They are 14 years old and they sleep with their parents? haha
So what your tiny little brain is saying is that the 14 yr olds got together with their parents and made up a story that mean bullies attacked them and stuck pencils and cell phone antenna's up their assses just to make money?!

Get a life you pea brain!!
Edward

Dunkirk, NY

#15 Sep 10, 2008
Can I sign up to be their next volunteer? I would pay to be in that study group.
Yukanawa Foneass phd wrote:
"finally", remember these gentlemen were mearly testing the hypothesis of increased cellphone reception in the anal cavity. They should publish their work. They are pioneers in this field of research.

Since: Apr 08

AOL

#17 Sep 10, 2008
patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
If a judge states that a person must stay away from another,within an order of protection, that order must be enforced.
With a school situation, they may qualify the order to read that there not be offensive contact with a person, and the school day contacts remain, if civil and appropriate for eductional purposes!
The NY state law is the law and the school must abide by that order, if a state jusge includes behavior within the school!
Maybe the orders of protection, were not properly drawn up..which is common in some towns and smaller areas, where these orders are poorly drafted!
Always make sure in court proceedings that whatever you want covered...you put on the record. The record is vital, and that is OF COURSE, if that court does not participate in altering transcripts...a common practice within the NY COURTS!
The Judge in this case did in fact inclued school in the order. Mr W said he wasn't going to allow it to be in force in school.Because that wasn't fair to the bully???...The child I am speaking of went for 5 years of bulling by the other child in the school I mite add,until the bully told the victim he was going to hurt them bad. The parents had ,had enough and got the order....Which wasn't worth the paper it was written on. And yes the parents called the school went to the school NOTHING was done to stop it . Tho I will give DJ a pat on the back he did try to stop it . His hands where tied by MW
patriot

Buffalo, NY

#18 Sep 10, 2008
Wilson Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
The Judge in this case did in fact inclued school in the order. Mr W said he wasn't going to allow it to be in force in school.Because that wasn't fair to the bully???...The child I am speaking of went for 5 years of bulling by the other child in the school I mite add,until the bully told the victim he was going to hurt them bad. The parents had ,had enough and got the order....Which wasn't worth the paper it was written on. And yes the parents called the school went to the school NOTHING was done to stop it . Tho I will give DJ a pat on the back he did try to stop it . His hands where tied by MW
Did anyone go back and tell the judge that the school refused enforcement of the order of the court..which refusal of enforcement, has it's own penalities!? Your local police must enforce all orders sent to them by the court..the teacher has no say!
Unfortunately, small towns violate laws and court orders way too much, and many times their employees do not know how to prepare orders correctly in the first place or send them to the local police, who are obligated to enforce them!
People let them get away with this because they don't know who to contact to have it addressed. You would be surprised at the action taken when a complaint is in writing.
Anytime anyone has a judicial problem in any area, esp the small counties, contact the district attorney in your area...in writing and if you then get no where with them or the judge, send your complaint to:

ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE SHARON TOWNSEND ( JUDGE OF ALL 8 COUNTIES)
92 FRANKLIN ST
BUFFALO NY 14222

wilson parent

AOL

#20 Sep 11, 2008
WCS will never change !!!!!

Since: Apr 08

AOL

#21 Sep 11, 2008
wilson parent wrote:
WCS will never change !!!!!
Personally I hope it does change . For the good of all. I would just like to see everything fair . When kids do something (not like this ) the punishment is equal to each and everyone. Not you get a pass cause they need you for the big game ....Just my opinion
old Turtle

AOL

#22 Sep 11, 2008
The kids will get a slap on the wrist, and go on to terrorize others later in life, this will be the beginning of a long career of being a thug.
Later, people will wonder why nothing was done long ago, before they became professional losers.

But I am still holding out hope the adults in charge pay. Big. With their careers and their check books.

And I pray every day for the victims and those who spoke up and tried to do the right thing, I am and always will be proud to know them and be a friend to them. And I will stand beside them to fight this fight, even when hope is lost.

And I pray for those who did nothing, who continue to do nothing to make this a better, safer town with high standards and who are not afraid to kick the jackasses that can not act human to the curb. I pray that karma comes back to get them one day. They are a cancer to the town. May they one day meet up with what they are.
mentalist

Buffalo, NY

#23 Sep 11, 2008
wilson parent wrote:
WCS will never change !!!!!
It will change when the mob for good wants it to.
People that bully need negative attention to satisfy their anger...don't continue to let them do that. A large group of..stomp the bully and his family will work.
Innundate the school system with tons of written incidences, behavior and names ansd promise to mail all of it to the media, the courts and the chief of police! Even send copies to Dateline!
We live in AMERICA, but we feel like it is Iraq...it must change and a group of smart adults can do it! Go ahead!
Sue from Ransomville

East Amherst, NY

#24 Sep 14, 2008
http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/story/4...

Here we go again. Not sure what happened. Kids recanting!!! Looks like what the press reported never happened, I think you all need to admit to that. ADA Zucco's explanation is weak at best.

Vona said,“This case was overcharged from the beginning. I respect that the district attorney had the courage to make the right decision as far as reducing the charges. It doesn’t mean [the defendants] are going to plead guilty.”

I saw one of the coaches and his family at IGA and I approached them and apologized for judging the incident. Maybe you should all do the same.

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