School district seeks opinions on sch...

School district seeks opinions on school resource officer position

There are 68 comments on the Union-Sun & Journal story from Sep 25, 2008, titled School district seeks opinions on school resource officer position. In it, Union-Sun & Journal reports that:

The Wilson Central School District wants to know what the public thinks about putting a school resource officer back in the Middle/High School.

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Reader

Buffalo, NY

#1 Oct 6, 2008
What are the pros and cons?
Wilson Mom

Buffalo, NY

#2 Oct 7, 2008
Pros: None

Cons:
1. Taxpayers burden
2. Only a handful of 10 crazy broads want it
3. A GUN IN THE SCHOOL
4. Dismissing many good positive personnel based programs
Reader

Buffalo, NY

#3 Oct 7, 2008
I googled SRO and found some pros:

1. Creates and maintains a secure and orderly learning environment for students, teachers and staff.
2. Establish a trusting channel of communication between students, parents, and teachers.
3. Serve as a positive role model (morals, judgment, discretion, and respect)
4. Promote citizen awareness of law
5. To serve as a confidential source of counseling for students and parents.

There are grants available to pay for these services.

In addition to these 10 crazy broads, I believe I read that the majority of STUDENTS would be open to it. Does that make them crazy too?

What positive personnel based programs would be dismissed...you lost me there.
another wilson mom

AOL

#4 Oct 7, 2008
Wilson Mom wrote:
Pros: None
Cons:
1. Taxpayers burden
2. Only a handful of 10 crazy broads want it
3. A GUN IN THE SCHOOL
4. Dismissing many good positive personnel based programs
I do NOT think we need a officer in the buildings at all....My kids have had problems in the passed they have always gone to us as parents and MrJ or a favorite teacher ...just my opinion
Rotten Apple

Buffalo, NY

#5 Oct 7, 2008
Reader wrote:
I googled SRO and found some pros:
1. Creates and maintains a secure and orderly learning environment for students, teachers and staff.
2. Establish a trusting channel of communication between students, parents, and teachers.
3. Serve as a positive role model (morals, judgment, discretion, and respect)
4. Promote citizen awareness of law
5. To serve as a confidential source of counseling for students and parents.
There are grants available to pay for these services.
In addition to these 10 crazy broads, I believe I read that the majority of STUDENTS would be open to it. Does that make them crazy too?
What positive personnel based programs would be dismissed...you lost me there.
You are nothing but a freaking busy body. Why don't you get a job?
Rotten Apple

Buffalo, NY

#6 Oct 7, 2008
Reader: you really are a treat. Do you not have any integrity or principles? You were absolutely feverish about defending Dr. Alberti, yet her 27 years of professional experience leads her to the conclusion that SRO's are the absolute wrong thing to do! So do several other highly respected psychologists.

You my friend are an embarassment to humanity.
Reader

Buffalo, NY

#7 Oct 7, 2008
On Oct 3 post #18 on the bullying lecture site you posted you were not at that lecture.

What is the deal with that?
Reader

Buffalo, NY

#8 Oct 7, 2008
Rotten Apple wrote:
Reader: you really are a treat. Do you not have any integrity or principles? You were absolutely feverish about defending Dr. Alberti, yet her 27 years of professional experience leads her to the conclusion that SRO's are the absolute wrong thing to do! So do several other highly respected psychologists.
You my friend are an embarassment to humanity.
I do not recall "feverishly" defending Dr. Alberti. I was not at the lecture. I was merely voicing my opinion as that is what this forum is for...is it not:-)?
Rotten Apple

Buffalo, NY

#9 Oct 7, 2008
Reader wrote:
On Oct 3 post #18 on the bullying lecture site you posted you were not at that lecture.
What is the deal with that?
You are insane. I know how to research the internet too. I never said I went to the seminar because I didn't. Google her name and you can find out the data I did.
Once again...nice try.

Funny how you and Kate post within minutes of each other. Do you seriously think you have any of us fooled?
Reader

Buffalo, NY

#10 Oct 7, 2008
"First-if I was Rotten Apple wouldn't it make sense that we would post at the same time? That theory makes absolutely no sense."

This is what DrAlbertiunprofessional posted when asked the same question.

You think he is pretty smart.
KatefromRt8

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#11 Oct 7, 2008
Reader wrote:
"First-if I was Rotten Apple wouldn't it make sense that we would post at the same time? That theory makes absolutely no sense."
This is what DrAlbertiunprofessional posted when asked the same question.
You think he is pretty smart.
You make me laugh....But DrA/Smelly Apple is probably beating up his wife or kids because you pissed him off with his own words. People like him usually fall into their own crap. I would like to think people like he are harmless, but that is not the case.

On a serious note, I would not object to a SRO being at any school if REALLY needed.
However, In this case, I would find it a wiser idea if the school, the teachers, and any other employee of a school disctrict including teachers assistants, nurses, dietary, housekeeping, coaching, bus drivers, were held responsible for their duties.
It does not amaze me that this happened, it amazes me that it went on with adults who were being paid to provide child safety within shouting distance, walking distance, skipping distance. Not to mention the fact that prior complaints were made, and not enough was done to correct the problem.
As for parents being responsible......until we can find a way to legalize sterilization for "bad parents" we who work with children have to protect children from one another. This does not mean we excuse bad kids because they have bad parents, but while on the school clock, on school property, we make sure everything in our power is being done to protect everyone.
This was not done at Wilson.
I do not think Wilson has enough behavior problems to need a SRO, I think they have a problem with (a few) poor teachers and an administration that got lazy.
Just my observation from someone who lives and works a few blocks away.
One thing for sure is, you can bet every school that surrounds Wilson is talking about this subject daily, watching what happens with eyes wide open. Which is a good thing. I can say my childrens school has tightened up boot strings, spending more time learning, discussing this exact issue and learning from it.
wilson alumni

Nicholasville, KY

#12 Oct 8, 2008
The superintendent, the principal, the athletic director should all be fired for their lack of oversight and ultimate responsibility for the mess at the Wilson Schools. It is a shame that the school is so divided and there are reasons that some parents and children should be upset. The whole situation was one of irresponsiblity on the coaches and volunteer coaches as well as the bus driver. They are the adults and they are ultimately responsible for what happened. If they were man enough to admit this and get the slap on the wrist that they are going to ultimately get, it would help the Town of Wilson reunite and then the children could go on and not have to take sides. There is a point in every childs life that they make a bad decision---That is why we have coaches, teachers, and guidance counselors. In this case the principal and superintendent have closed their eyes to the whole mess and allowed the situation to escalate. OPen your eyes Wilsonians, you should never have been put in the position of taking sides. Your leadership in the school system is to blame. They didn't act when they were told about the first incident and until you relieve them of their positions, Wilson will continue to have problems even when this situation is resolved. If they can honestly say the the coaches and athletic director didn't report to them the first incident ask the WHY!!!!!!
There will be no resolution until someone admits that what happened was wrong. Stop the teachers from being controlled by the unions. They really have no choice. Maybe the unions are really behind all the problems. Everyone charged is in the union. That is what has controlled the situation. This could have all been resolved earlier without all this mess if the Principal had taken care of it when the parent asked for help.
old Turtle

AOL

#13 Oct 8, 2008
wilson alumni wrote:
The superintendent, the principal, the athletic director should all be fired for their lack of oversight and ultimate responsibility for the mess at the Wilson Schools. It is a shame that the school is so divided and there are reasons that some parents and children should be upset. The whole situation was one of irresponsiblity on the coaches and volunteer coaches as well as the bus driver. They are the adults and they are ultimately responsible for what happened. If they were man enough to admit this and get the slap on the wrist that they are going to ultimately get, it would help the Town of Wilson reunite and then the children could go on and not have to take sides. There is a point in every childs life that they make a bad decision---That is why we have coaches, teachers, and guidance counselors. In this case the principal and superintendent have closed their eyes to the whole mess and allowed the situation to escalate. OPen your eyes Wilsonians, you should never have been put in the position of taking sides. Your leadership in the school system is to blame. They didn't act when they were told about the first incident and until you relieve them of their positions, Wilson will continue to have problems even when this situation is resolved. If they can honestly say the the coaches and athletic director didn't report to them the first incident ask the WHY!!!!!!
There will be no resolution until someone admits that what happened was wrong. Stop the teachers from being controlled by the unions. They really have no choice. Maybe the unions are really behind all the problems. Everyone charged is in the union. That is what has controlled the situation. This could have all been resolved earlier without all this mess if the Principal had taken care of it when the parent asked for help.
Agree100%.
Until the Cancer is removed, radiated, treated with chemo, healthy growth will not cannot happen.
another alumni

Buffalo, NY

#14 Oct 8, 2008
Get an SRO in there asp. The drugs in that school are out of control.
Reader

Buffalo, NY

#15 Oct 10, 2008
Wilson mom still hasn't explained what positive personnel based programs would be lost.
Wilson Mom

Buffalo, NY

#16 Oct 10, 2008
http://74.6.239.67/search/cach e?ei=UTF-8&p=meichenbaum+e mpirical+based+school+violence +prevention&fr=yfp-t-113 &u=www.haworthpress.com/st ore/PDFFiles/ForReps/Elias-Bul lying.pdf&w=meichenbaum+em pirical+based+base+school+viol ence+prevention&d=Z32qNvRe RUFP&icp=1&.intl=us

http://www.education.ucsb.edu/school-psycholo...

Based on this research, programs which are available and I believe may
be GOOGLED are

Adolescent anger control: cognitive behavioral techniques
BrainPower program
FAST Track Program
Peace Builders
PACT
Project PATHE
Resolving Conflict Creatively Program
School-based Bully/Victim Intervention Program
Second Step: A violence Prevention Program
Viewpoints Training Program

These are just a few of the 30 or 40 programs that I've researched.

Reader

Buffalo, NY

#17 Oct 10, 2008
Those are all wonderful suggestions that shouldn't be dismissed.

However they will all take time to implement. People will talk and talk and talk about the pros and cons of each and every one of them.

After one or another is selected...people will have to be trained. They will again have to talk and talk and talk about who and where and when people will need to be trained and then they need to train others, etc. Before you know it a year or two will have slipped by and nothing has been accomplished.

By this time the administrators will begin saying again "we have no bullying problem" and the ball will be dropped.

People in Wilson want something done yesterday.
Reader

Buffalo, NY

#18 Oct 10, 2008
Rotten Apple wrote:
Reader: you really are a treat. Do you not have any integrity or principles? You were absolutely feverish about defending Dr. Alberti, yet her 27 years of professional experience leads her to the conclusion that SRO's are the absolute wrong thing to do! So do several other highly respected psychologists.
You my friend are an embarassment to humanity.
You going to change your name to candy apple cuz i am a treat;-)
Wilson Mom

Buffalo, NY

#19 Oct 10, 2008
http://www.haworthpress.com/store/PDFFiles/Fo...

Sorry, this is a better link to the first.
Wilson Mom

Buffalo, NY

#20 Oct 10, 2008
Reader wrote:
People in Wilson want something done yesterday.
I am not trying to pick a fight, I am trying to understand, sincerely not trying to be rude, but you are not from here. How do you know how we feel about this?

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