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casual observer

Saint Louis, MO

#21 Dec 8, 2009
Well, if it was so good, why did they leave in the middle of the night? What would have happened if they left in the middle of the day?
Walter from Marie

Fort Wayne, IN

#22 Dec 8, 2009
When I stated that all the Wilsons were nice people, I was referring to their mixing with the plantation workers. They spent alot of time in the fields and they always talked with everyone and knew many of the workers by their first name. The farm managers were also good people, but there were some very hard and fast rules. People owed the company money and they were expected to work to pay down their debts. When my brother and I were teens one of our jobs was to haul people to the fields. If someone was lazy or pretended sickness we were instructed to explain to them their responsibilities in direct terms. I remember that we had almost 100% success in getting every one to the fields. Now, as far as people leaving in the middle of the day I don;t know what would have happened to them but I do know that they would not have been arrested. They may have been persuaded to come back. As far as I know, nobody left except at night without somebody paying off their debt. Concerning the federal agents getting killed on the Wilson plantation, I am almost positive that would never have happened. There were times when someone would be accidentally killed on the farm, but rarely. In most cases there would be no hint that a person was killed or even beaten on purpose. I am not saying that it never happened. You would have had to be there to understand how the plantation system worked to the advantage of the workers as well as the company.
Walter from Marie

Fort Wayne, IN

#23 Dec 8, 2009
Let me weigh in on the WIlson plantation at Victoria. When Lee Wilson's son-in-law, Lee Wesson(Smith & Wesson) took over at Victoria it became a lot different than the WIlson-Marie plantations. He was from the North and his family had money a long time before Lee Wilson became rich. He changed the company store situation and workers didn't become so indebted to the company, plus workers got paid every week rather than just getting a statement showing how much they owed. The VIctoria plantation was also much smaller (8,000 acres) and had fewer workers. Mostly white.
christmas angel

Saint Louis, MO

#24 Dec 12, 2009
What about a ditch with several bodies burried in it?
Walter from Marie

Laurel, MS

#25 Dec 12, 2009
I just read that story in Wikipedia about the rich person taken off the train in the sixties. How does junk like that get on the internet? And the people killed and their bodies thrown in a ditch. If somebody involved with Lee Wilson Company or any other plantation had killed people, they would have thrown them in the Mississippi river just like the people on Island 35 would have done.
casual observer

Saint Louis, MO

#26 Dec 12, 2009
Well, then why did the people leave by the cover of darkness??
Walter from Marie

Laurel, MS

#27 Dec 13, 2009
There are reasons that people left at night. Some may have come to the conclusion that they were never going to get out of debt, but, feeling obligated because of their debts, were embarrassed to face the farm manager to tell him they were leaving. Some people were probably intimidated by stories they had heard when earlier families had tried to leave. There were probably some people who were dishonest and left their debts behind on purpose. However, most people stayed and did their best to pay off debts. Alot of this was accomplished when younger family members graduated from high school and went north for factory jobs and sent money back to the plantation to pay off the debts. Still, there is no way any one was arrested for leaving. Looking at it from Lee Wilson Company's perspective, the company was way ahead by having the cheap labor.
flybynight

Saint Paul, MN

#28 Dec 14, 2009
Walter from Marie wrote:
I just read that story in Wikipedia about the rich person taken off the train in the sixties. How does junk like that get on the internet? And the people killed and their bodies thrown in a ditch. If somebody involved with Lee Wilson Company or any other plantation had killed people, they would have thrown them in the Mississippi river just like the people on Island 35 would have done.
Walter, I am from island 35. What makes you think (the people on island 35) would do something to that nature.It breaks my heart to think that people (think that way)of us island folks.Nothing but good people came from the island and only the people that thought they where( bad ) cross the bridge from arkansas.Although
your topic is on wilson, it is nice to know the island is still in the mines of many people.
too-fast

Saint Louis, MO

#29 Dec 14, 2009
So what about the ditch full of bodies? What about the senate investigation that broke up the slave ring at wilson?
Walter from Marie

Laurel, MS

#30 Dec 15, 2009
Too Fast: I'm sorry but I haven't seen any info on those dead bodies, except right here. And no slave ring. It just didn't happen, unless it was in the 1860s. But I would like to read about it. Let me know where I can find it.
Walter from Marie

Laurel, MS

#31 Dec 15, 2009
Flybynight: Hey, that was a joke. I have lots of friends who lived on Island 35 and I have been there many times myself, actually worked there some. I have always thought it was a special place.
flybynight

Lake City, AR

#32 Dec 18, 2009
Walter from Marie wrote:
Flybynight: Hey, that was a joke. I have lots of friends who lived on Island 35 and I have been there many times myself, actually worked there some. I have always thought it was a special place.
Walter,you are so right,it was a good place.
arkyboyusa

Saint Louis, MO

#34 Dec 23, 2009
Walter from Marie wrote:
Too Fast: I'm sorry but I haven't seen any info on those dead bodies, except right here. And no slave ring. It just didn't happen, unless it was in the 1860s. But I would like to read about it. Let me know where I can find it.
Is your name Walter Wilson??
Walter from Marie

Laurel, MS

#35 Dec 24, 2009
Arkyboyusa: I'm not sure what your question is about. My name is not Wilson. And I'm not promoting the Wilson plantation. But, I was there and I know pretty much what happened. There was a lot of stuff that went on and I can probably answer any questions that anyone has about it. I will repeat that if anyone had been killed and thrown in a ditch it would have been the Mississippi river. No bodies would have ever been found. If you were there and I missed something please let me know. We may have a lot in common. Maybe you and I are old friends. I hope so.
BlindAndWelsh

Batesville, AR

#36 Sep 6, 2010
There were never any 'Senate Investigations' into any slavery rings, etc., anywhere in Mississippi County.

My grandfather was foreman at Golden Lake, as was his father before him; I've heard accounts of vagrants being pressed into service for Lee Wilson & Co., as well as labor being provided to various plantations courtesy of the County Sheriff (chain-gangs, anyone?), but nothing more than that.

Such situations were quite common throughout the South, or anywhere railroads ran through plantation lands. As far s any Wikipedia post, I'd discount that as 'creative editing'.
wilsonLady

Monette, AR

#37 Sep 8, 2010
resident wrote:
<quoted text> you are actually a dumbass! Why would you get on here and ask a stupid ass question like this unless you were trying to get something started. Do you not know when the slave years were? Are you that uneducated?


You may think that was a dombass statement,BUT you need to look up a few sources yourself! there are alot of things that go on around here thatis unconstitutional. Text books don't supply "us" with all that happened in history so a good source of information would come from a family member that lived here around 1960. you will be surprised! SERIOUSLY......
Nikkmed

Olive Branch, MS

#38 Nov 2, 2010
WOW!!! I have been around Wilson, Arkansas my whole life....My grandparents were from there. They worked for the Wilson's off and on and my Grandfather was the County Sheriff at one time.....These are some crazy stories about Wilson and I knew the Wilson's....they are very nice people!
Wondering

United States

#39 Feb 14, 2011
Ever noticed how they look like horses
History Buff

Arlington, VA

#40 Mar 12, 2011
Hey there BlindAndWelsh I am doing some family history searches and my grandmother's folks were owners of Golden Lake Plantation many, many years ago. Would love to connect if you are interested.
BlindAndWelsh wrote:
There were never any 'Senate Investigations' into any slavery rings, etc., anywhere in Mississippi County.
My grandfather was foreman at Golden Lake, as was his father before him; I've heard accounts of vagrants being pressed into service for Lee Wilson & Co., as well as labor being provided to various plantations courtesy of the County Sheriff (chain-gangs, anyone?), but nothing more than that.
Such situations were quite common throughout the South, or anywhere railroads ran through plantation lands. As far s any Wikipedia post, I'd discount that as 'creative editing'.
Ttttthhhhhhttttt t

Brookland, AR

#41 Mar 12, 2011
BlindAndWelsh wrote:
There were never any 'Senate Investigations' into any slavery rings, etc., anywhere in Mississippi County.
My grandfather was foreman at Golden Lake, as was his father before him; I've heard accounts of vagrants being pressed into service for Lee Wilson & Co., as well as labor being provided to various plantations courtesy of the County Sheriff (chain-gangs, anyone?), but nothing more than that.
Such situations were quite common throughout the South, or anywhere railroads ran through plantation lands. As far s any Wikipedia post, I'd discount that as 'creative editing'.
Regardless, it's the P A S T. It W A S a way of life. M O S T folks were poor and hungry, slave or free.

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