Prices over $3 a gallon? 'Outrageous....

Prices over $3 a gallon? 'Outrageous.' 'We're being shafted.'

There are 44 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Dec 21, 2010, titled Prices over $3 a gallon? 'Outrageous.' 'We're being shafted.'. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Pump prices are rising -- and so is people's ire. In Dracut yesterday, Bill Grescho filled up his car at a Mobil station on Lakeview Avenue.

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please

East Hartford, CT

#1 Dec 21, 2010
there is no need of this, people get busy, write, e-mail and call anyone you can in our lovely goverment and complain about the gas and oil prices!!!!!! Maybe they will get the hint!!!!!!or sick of hearing from us!!!!!!!
louie

Lowell, MA

#2 Dec 21, 2010
attention, MIKE DARLING. this is your boss speaking, YOUR FIRED..... lol
Ron

Tyngsboro, MA

#3 Dec 21, 2010
Who are we supposed to contact? My local congresswoman Niki Tsongas was married to a man who supported $3.00 a gallon 25 years ago! Yes, he supported forced conservation by artificially forcing the price of gasoline up by high taxes.

That is why his nickname was Paul Tax-on-gas.

She too never met a high energy price she didn't love.
Jim

Fitchburg, MA

#4 Dec 21, 2010
The few politicians that were vocal about it before are now silent, why? check where they get their donations from and it's pretty clear.

our government is for the few, and we aren't them.
demonseed

Howell, MI

#5 Dec 21, 2010
Watch Jesse Ventua Conspiracy Theory about the bp oil spill and you will find out we have been shafted a lot more than once!
Iron Mike

Acton, MA

#6 Dec 21, 2010
Over 10 years ago folks were saying it would take ten years to develope ANWR, and it would 'disrurb' the carabou.

Obama just froze drilling in the gulf for 7 years.

What, your new solar panel is covered with snow? Ask Al Gore about borrowing his solar-powered snow blower.

STEPS to take:

1. Vote Dumbocrats out of office in 2012.

2. Build nuke plants - about 40 of them.

3. Drill Baby drill!

4. Excuse me Mister Carabou - would you please move over while we put in this pipeline.

5. Convert our municipal fleets to run natural gas.
jjj

Gardner, MA

#7 Dec 21, 2010
wtf..theres no shortage...!!!!!
Ron

Tyngsboro, MA

#8 Dec 21, 2010
Iron Mike wrote:
Over 10 years ago folks were saying it would take ten years to develope ANWR, and it would 'disrurb' the carabou.
Obama just froze drilling in the gulf for 7 years.
What, your new solar panel is covered with snow? Ask Al Gore about borrowing his solar-powered snow blower.
STEPS to take:
1. Vote Dumbocrats out of office in 2012.
2. Build nuke plants - about 40 of them.
3. Drill Baby drill!
4. Excuse me Mister Carabou - would you please move over while we put in this pipeline.
5. Convert our municipal fleets to run natural gas.
Excellent post!

Democrat energy policy:
no new nuke plants
no digging of coal
no burning of coal
no drilling for oil near shore where the oil actually is(AND where any leak may be easily be repaired).
no refineries constructed

Democrats support:
windmills provided they are not located near where they live
add corn products to gas: drive up the price of both food and gas
check tire pressure

Since: May 09

Lowell, MA

#9 Dec 21, 2010
1. You're paying a lot more than $3/gallon buddy. Add in the amount you pay in taxes that subsidize the oil industry from exploration, refining and distribution and you're paying well over $5/gallon.

2. Those subsidies also fuel greed, corruption and inefficiencies in the marketplace further increasing the cost of fuel.

3. On top of that we're subsidizing alternative energy sources such as solar, wind, tidal, hydrogen, etc... This also fuels greed, corruption and inefficiencies in those markets as well driving up the cost of those technologies and slowing innovation.

We will never rid ourselves of our dependence on oil unless the cost of it forces us to. As long as the rising cost is a result of slowing demand rather than illegal price gouging.

Rising oil prices as a result of slowing demand will also mean billions of private investment $(not government handouts) to flow into alternative energy markets naturally. Demand for these technologies will rise. Innovation will happen more rapidly and economies of scale will bring prices down without government intervention.

Time to tighten the belts folks. People in other parts of the world are already paying way more for fuel than we do. They just pay it at the pump.
Iron Mike

Acton, MA

#10 Dec 21, 2010
LowellContrarian wrote:
We will never rid ourselves of our dependence on oil unless the cost of it forces us to. As long as the rising cost is a result of slowing demand rather than illegal price gouging.
I'm way beyond tired of these one-step two-step tangos that the 'green' movement keeps trying to MAKE me dance. Since they can't convince people to 'go green' they want to mandate it by raising taxes until we are FORCED to use their solutions.

HEY GREEN NUTS: the reason God waited 7 BILLION years before he put us on Earth was to let enough biomass compress into coal, gas and oil for us to live on. There IS enough - if we'll stop the krap and drill it.

Google: "Bakkan Oil Reserves"

Frankly you green nuts don't have any worthwhile answers, and you can't think any further down the road than step one and ~ maybe ~ step two.

For instance, did you EVER think - even ONCE - how many peoples pensions and retirement funds are invested in oil and energy companies? And you want to punish these companies by taxing them into oblivion?

How about the folks who work for them? Want to see them unemployued? How about gas station owners and employees? Are you 'planning' to retrain them all as recharge station operators?

So what are you planning to heat your home with in your old age? What are you planning to drive? Going to buy your food or have it delivered? Or grow it?[Oops - that pesky Dick Durban food safety bill - you can't have a garden.] What are you going to cook your food with? You ~ might ~ get tired of sun-dried. People in Europe did - thus they looked for a fast way to China, and found this place.

Since: May 09

Lowell, MA

#11 Dec 22, 2010
Iron Mike wrote:
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I'm way beyond tired of these one-step two-step tangos that the 'green' movement keeps trying to MAKE me dance. Since they can't convince people to 'go green' they want to mandate it by raising taxes until we are FORCED to use their solutions.
HEY GREEN NUTS: the reason God waited 7 BILLION years before he put us on Earth was to let enough biomass compress into coal, gas and oil for us to live on. There IS enough - if we'll stop the krap and drill it.
Google: "Bakkan Oil Reserves"
Frankly you green nuts don't have any worthwhile answers, and you can't think any further down the road than step one and ~ maybe ~ step two.
For instance, did you EVER think - even ONCE - how many peoples pensions and retirement funds are invested in oil and energy companies? And you want to punish these companies by taxing them into oblivion?
How about the folks who work for them? Want to see them unemployued? How about gas station owners and employees? Are you 'planning' to retrain them all as recharge station operators?
So what are you planning to heat your home with in your old age? What are you planning to drive? Going to buy your food or have it delivered? Or grow it?[Oops - that pesky **** Durban food safety bill - you can't have a garden.] What are you going to cook your food with? You ~ might ~ get tired of sun-dried. People in Europe did - thus they looked for a fast way to China, and found this place.
Iron... you've completely misready everything I wrote. You've confused me with "green nuts" which couldn't be further from the truth, you think I believe in raising taxes when my comments were quite the opposite, and you believe a transition in economics from gas to alternatives is going to cost everyone their pensions. I don't know what makes you a bigger doosh the fact that you believe that crap or that fact that you believe oil was put on the planet for the simple fact of polluting it. Thanks for the giggle.
beancounter

Littleton, MA

#12 Dec 22, 2010
Gas at even $5/gallon provides an enormous amount of 'power' for the price paid. Much more than other competing technologies.

Things to consider when complaining about the price of oil/gas.
1. Oil is priced in dollars. B. Hussein and Bernanke have done their best to devalue the dollar by printing more to solve their problems.
2. All the 'easy' oil has been extracted. Companies have to go to more extreme means to find oil in more remote and difficult conditions which costs more to produce.

As someone wrote earlier, need to migrate more vehicles to CNG, look at Thorium nuclear power and most importantly efficiency.

ANWR would only provide a fraction of a % of world demand - it is not the answer.

Go to www.chrismartenson.com and watch the 'Crash Course' a great lecture on the convergence of Energy, Environment and the Economy.

Within 5 years, gas will be $5-$7/gallon.
Pabst Blue Ribbon Winner

Stoneham, MA

#13 Dec 22, 2010
$3 a gallon for gas is still a good deal. I was just in London where after conversion of liters to gallons as well as pounds to dollars you realize they are paying nearly $10 a gallon for gas.

Complaining is the American way I guess.

By the way, I have driven a hybrid for the past 6 years and get on average 45 mpg and fill up my tank once every two weeks or so.$3 a gallon doesn't even make me blink an eye.
Ahem

Belfast, ME

#14 Dec 22, 2010
Ahem, There is plenty of blame to go around. Don't forget those high rolling oil company executives who are boasting highest profits ever in their industry. That's what you get when Republicans give them tax breaks and let them crush environmental laws. Tell me another one you democrat detractors.
Goober Pyle

Carlstadt, NJ

#15 Dec 22, 2010
Just when the short of memory Americans began to purchase those monster SUV's again, gas goes up! Who would'a thunk.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#16 Dec 22, 2010
Iron Mike wrote:
Over 10 years ago folks were saying it would take ten years to develope ANWR, and it would 'disrurb' the carabou.
Obama just froze drilling in the gulf for 7 years.
What, your new solar panel is covered with snow? Ask Al Gore about borrowing his solar-powered snow blower.
STEPS to take:
1. Vote Dumbocrats out of office in 2012.
You do know that John McCain, Obama's opponent, is against developing ANWR don't you?
http://www.adn.com/2009/06/09/825252/committe...

Don't worry, the $40,000 Chevy Volt will save us. I like the idea of running vehicles on natural gas. The taxi cab companies in Lowell were doing that decades ago.
who knows

United States

#17 Dec 22, 2010
LowellContrarian wrote:
1. You're paying a lot more than $3/gallon buddy. Add in the amount you pay in taxes that subsidize the oil industry from exploration, refining and distribution and you're paying well over $5/gallon.
2. Those subsidies also fuel greed, corruption and inefficiencies in the marketplace further increasing the cost of fuel.
3. On top of that we're subsidizing alternative energy sources such as solar, wind, tidal, hydrogen, etc... This also fuels greed, corruption and inefficiencies in those markets as well driving up the cost of those technologies and slowing innovation.
We will never rid ourselves of our dependence on oil unless the cost of it forces us to. As long as the rising cost is a result of slowing demand rather than illegal price gouging.
Rising oil prices as a result of slowing demand will also mean billions of private investment $(not government handouts) to flow into alternative energy markets naturally. Demand for these technologies will rise. Innovation will happen more rapidly and economies of scale will bring prices down without government intervention.
Time to tighten the belts folks. People in other parts of the world are already paying way more for fuel than we do. They just pay it at the pump.
Prices don't rise due to lower demand--they fall. The new technologies don't work or we'd be reading about guys like Zuckerberg(FaceBook) in the alternative energy world. You know--multi-billionaires. Keep drilling here until we have proven alternatives. Build nukes. Use clean coal. Lower imports if we can.
Wind and Solar should be used and improved but they can't fuel the country.

I did giggle recently at Al Gore when he said "on second thought starving people by putting food in our gas tanks" --oh--sorry . He actually said "on second thought first generation ethanol was a mistake". Same meaning though. Sort of like the mistake demanded by the militant environmentalists of stopping nukes.

Since: May 09

Lowell, MA

#18 Dec 22, 2010
who knows wrote:
<quoted text>
Prices don't rise due to lower demand--they fall. The new technologies don't work or we'd be reading about guys like Zuckerberg(FaceBook) in the alternative energy world. You know--multi-billionaires. Keep drilling here until we have proven alternatives. Build nukes. Use clean coal. Lower imports if we can.
Wind and Solar should be used and improved but they can't fuel the country.
I did giggle recently at Al Gore when he said "on second thought starving people by putting food in our gas tanks" --oh--sorry . He actually said "on second thought first generation ethanol was a mistake". Same meaning though. Sort of like the mistake demanded by the militant environmentalists of stopping nukes.
Guys like Zuckerberg aren't in the alt energy markets because gas is too cheap. That's my point. If you want off oil pay the true cost at the pump and to heat your home. That will drive demand for alternatives and guys like zuckerberg will pour money into those markets thus improving the technologies and hopefully discover the next disruptive technology. Subsidizing both oil and alternatives slows the pace of innovation. Sure there's plenty of oil but at a certain point it becomes significantly more expensive to extract. At current costs it's too expensive to extract this oil (shale, etc..). If costs rise the price point starts to equalize and companies will invest more in those technologies to extract more efficiently.
richie

Sandown, NH

#19 Dec 22, 2010
I think its' all been said here. Value of the dollar falling, no drilling, no nuclear power plants. of course gas prices are going to go up. Google Obama and energy prices and you will see interviews with him where he comes right out and says he will bankrupt people using coal to generate power and that government will raise energy prices to change out behavior.
fruit cake

Westford, MA

#20 Dec 22, 2010
LowellContrarian wrote:
1. You're paying a lot more than $3/gallon buddy. Add in the amount you pay in taxes that subsidize the oil industry from exploration, refining and distribution and you're paying well over $5/gallon.
2. Those subsidies also fuel greed, corruption and inefficiencies in the marketplace further increasing the cost of fuel.
3. On top of that we're subsidizing alternative energy sources such as solar, wind, tidal, hydrogen, etc... This also fuels greed, corruption and inefficiencies in those markets as well driving up the cost of those technologies and slowing innovation.
We will never rid ourselves of our dependence on oil unless the cost of it forces us to. As long as the rising cost is a result of slowing demand rather than illegal price gouging.
Rising oil prices as a result of slowing demand will also mean billions of private investment $(not government handouts) to flow into alternative energy markets naturally. Demand for these technologies will rise. Innovation will happen more rapidly and economies of scale will bring prices down without government intervention.
Time to tighten the belts folks. People in other parts of the world are already paying way more for fuel than we do. They just pay it at the pump.
oil 133.00 from the middle east and we sell them wheat for 7.00 a bushell how bout raising the price of wheat to 140.00 and see if oil comes down.

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