Berkots liquor & Pizza Hut

Berkots liquor & Pizza Hut

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About Time

Dallas, TX

#1 Aug 13, 2011
Looks like the city council is finally moving in the right direction. Berkots should have a liquor license and it looks like they might finally get it and Pizza Hut construction is under way. I personally go to Braidwoods Berkots to buy beer and while I'm there I get groceries too, you have Angelos and Wee Sips crying because they are goin to have to match Berkots prices or face going out of business. The council needs to think about the 6000 consumers in this town instead of a few business owners, it's not rocket science??? Well I hope they get a liquor license and give the people of this town a better deal. Call your alderman or Mayor Orr!

Since: Mar 10

United States

#2 Aug 13, 2011
I'll agree with you here ... if the pizza places fought but didn't win against Pizza Hut coming in, then why should Angelos & Sippi's be any different?

Competition is a GOOD thing!
Seeing both Sides

Downers Grove, IL

#3 Aug 13, 2011
It is good, however, Sippis and Angelos cannot match the prices and make any money. Berkots is a chain and they are buying it in bulk and at a much lower price than these family owned businesses. It may very well run them out of business and lots of jobs in this town will be lost. Angelos and Sippis may charge a couple dollars more a case or bottle of wine, but are probably making less money on those items than Berkots in Braidwood or Coal City. But times are tough and everyone wants to pay less for everything.

Since: Mar 10

United States

#4 Aug 13, 2011
Playing devils advocate here ... how is Angelos & Sippis situation any different from the family-owned pizza places that will probably be hurt bad by Pizza Hut -- a chain who can buy their ingredients in bulk and at a much lower price?
About Time

Chicago, IL

#5 Aug 14, 2011
Let me put it this way, how long has these buisness's been screwing us? Answer a long long time so they made their $ year after year for decades. Time for the consumers to save, I would love to see a Walmart come in, no job loses Walmart and Berkots have alot of employees so don't give me that excuse. Now for the pizza, does anyone know how much $ it takes to make a pizza? Like 4-5 $ at the most Foxs sell this pizza for $20, again time to lower prices pizza joints you been screwing us to.
Seeing both Sides

Pleasant Prairie, WI

#6 Aug 15, 2011
Local_Gal wrote:
Playing devils advocate here ... how is Angelos & Sippis situation any different from the family-owned pizza places that will probably be hurt bad by Pizza Hut -- a chain who can buy their ingredients in bulk and at a much lower price?
They are not any different at all. It is the same thing. An unfortunate reality of small business. They can not compete price wise. And you may be able to make a pizza for 4.00, but they have to pay for more than the toppings. There is payroll, payroll taxes, insurance, rent, utility bills,income tax, etc. The chains have all these expenses as well, but have big head start when they are buying at much cheaper rate than the mom and pop store. If they charged the exact same price for the pizza or case of beer, the profit the chain would make compared to the mom and pop store wouldn't even be close. I am not saying any of this is bad for the folks in town, its a good thing for the consumer, but not so good for the small business owner.
black

Joliet, IL

#7 Aug 15, 2011
sippies and angelos are just crybabies. how come there is a liquor store across from the coal city berkots that is still open? what about the liquor store half a block from the braidwood berkots? it is ridiculous for 2 business owners to be able to tell consumers how and where they will spend their money. this is America, and freedom of coice is essential.
Grandma

Wilmington, IL

#8 Aug 15, 2011
black wrote:
sippies and angelos are just crybabies. how come there is a liquor store across from the coal city berkots that is still open? what about the liquor store half a block from the braidwood berkots? it is ridiculous for 2 business owners to be able to tell consumers how and where they will spend their money. this is America, and freedom of coice is essential.
You have to understand that the "sippi's" and the "angelos' think they run the town. I am all for competition. But do understand that being small businesses they are paying higher prices as they are not purchasing the volume berkot's is able to. And alcohol is one place where volume does count big time!
Tax Payer

Joliet, IL

#9 Aug 15, 2011
I understand that Berkot's can buy volumes of booze, therefore selling it cheaper. Why couldn't a Sippi's or Angelo's rent a huge storage area, like a pole barn of sorts, and buy more quantity at cheaper prices? Is this feasable or is it more complicated?
joe

Joliet, IL

#10 Aug 15, 2011
Does anyone know when pizza hunt is going to open up?
think

Joliet, IL

#11 Aug 15, 2011
i don't know how much buying in volume does for berkots. i think they are just selling it cheap to get people in the door. think about it, jewel is much bigger and never has beer as cheap as berkots.
Seeing both Sides

Pleasant Prairie, WI

#12 Aug 16, 2011
Berkots has a storage warehouse in Manteno I think.
About Time

Joliet, IL

#13 Aug 16, 2011
Storage warehouse doesn't matter same truck that delivers to Sippis and Angelos deliver to Berkots.
Joe

United States

#14 Aug 16, 2011
The have one just north of Enchanted Shores on Wilminton/Peotone Road too.
Seeing both Sides wrote:
Berkots has a storage warehouse in Manteno I think.
peter

Joliet, IL

#15 Aug 16, 2011
they have one storage warehouse for the whole company...and it has no beer...
Me thinking

Joliet, IL

#17 Sep 15, 2011
Seeing both Sides wrote:
It is good, however, Sippis and Angelos cannot match the prices and make any money. Berkots is a chain and they are buying it in bulk and at a much lower price than these family owned businesses. It may very well run them out of business and lots of jobs in this town will be lost. Angelos and Sippis may charge a couple dollars more a case or bottle of wine, but are probably making less money on those items than Berkots in Braidwood or Coal City. But times are tough and everyone wants to pay less for everything.
Doesn't matter how tough times are, if you are in business your prices have to be competitive,even though that may mean reducing your profit margin, because I am not going to pay more than I have to for anything.
Me thinking

Joliet, IL

#18 Sep 15, 2011
If the commodity was coffee, hamburgers, scooters, insurance, cars, groceries, medicine, lumber, furniture, collectibles, cellular phones, DVDs, housewares, garden plants, fuel, firewood, or dog treats, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Businesses selling these things would open their doors without any oversight from the city council because the council wouldn't interfere with the free market. The only reason this is going on is because the reigning booze czars want to keep their hold on the market, and the liquor license is the only tool to do it.

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