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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Jun 07

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#150707 Jul 16, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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NATURAL born, not NATIVE born. They are two different things. NATURAL born means you were a citizen at the time of your birth. NATIVE born means you were born on US soil. Again, notice the Constitution says NATURAL born. You can be a NATURAL born citizen if one of your parents is a US citizen at the time of your birth, even if you were born on the Moon.
<quoted text>
But not so dumb I don't know the difference between natural and native born.
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You're just upset you have a black president. LOL @ you.
More you Say??
Ok-- "The first Question is settled by Vattel in the following Paragraph, vizt--." John Jay 1785 ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage ...)

Still not enough??
"In order to prove that individuals in a State of nature are equally free & independent he read passages from Locke, Vattel, Lord Summers--Priestly. To prove that the case is the same with States till they surrender"-- Record of Federal COnvention 1787- Madison ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage ...)

Had enough yet??

How about a few more..

"The first principle of government is founded on the natural rights of individuals, and in perfect equality. Locke, Vattel, Lord Somers, and Dr. Priestly, all confirm this principle"- Record of the Federal Convention 1787 ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage ...)

"I am in Want of the following Books from Messr Jackson & Dunn, & wish to know whether I must send the others to Phila., or deliver them to any Friend of those Gentlemen here. The Books wanted are Vattel's Law of Nations...." Elbridge Gerry to Timothy Pickering 1785-- http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D ...::

"Dear Sir York in Pennsylvania Novr 8. 1777 The following Books are much wanted by some Gentlemen of Congress, & are not to be procured in this Place; if they are to be found in the Pennsylvania Library, which We are informed is removed by Order of your Excellency to Lancaster, I shall be much obliged to You for the Loan thereof being with respect your Excellency's very huml sert,(1) E Gerry

Vattell's Law of Nations" Elbridge Gerry to Thomas Wharton ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D ...::)

Hmm, why would Congress be so interested in getting this book by Vattel if he was so inconsequential to the writting of the US Constitution?? I mean wouldn't they already know British Common law and have no need for Vattel if in fact our laws were based solely on Common Law as you claim??

Need some more??

"I will proceed on first principls. every man out of society is equal, in Freedom, & every other quality of man--Lock, Vattel, & others prove this position" -- Record of he Federal Convention 1787 ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage ...)

"I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the law of nations."-- Charles William Frederic Dumas 1780
http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D ...::

Doesn't get much more evident than this that when the Law of Nations was referenced it meant VATTEL!!!
Dan

Roseville, CA

#150708 Jul 16, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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Thank's for proving my point Rose.
Again, everything doesn't have to do with slavery.
It has to do with equal rights.

And don't come back with the samed bullshit line that gays can marry...thery just need to find an opposite sexed partner. It's the same as someone in the 50's adsvising blacks can use the bus system...they just need to ride in hte back.

You're a punk. You'll always be a punk. The beauty in it no one has to kick your ass. You do that to yourself.

I'll bet you my ENTIRE softball collection my world is more full than your angry ass will ever know.

So go on. Judge and hate. Point and discriminate. Glare and angrily pontificate.

--That was a fail. No songwriting in my career anyways...LOL!!!

Since: Jun 07

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#150709 Jul 16, 2012
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>Does this comment ring a bell?
"Interesting, you never seem to be able to refute anything I say, just continue with your childish banter. Perhaps it's time you moved from your parents basement?" Amazing simply amazing.
Hey idiot, there was nothing to refute in the post I replied to, much like yours it was a waste of bandwidth. No pertinent facts were presented, hence there is nothing to debate.

If you care to present something for argument do so, otherwise you are simply an idiot looking for attention, much like Rose, Dan, and the Prof Guy.

Since: Jun 07

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#150710 Jul 16, 2012
Dan wrote:
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It has to do with equal rights.
They are equal, everyone across the board- Heterosexual, Homosexual, White, Black, Asian, Polygamist, Italian, Cuban, Mexican........ Can all marry one person of the opposite sex, and not one of them can marry someone of the same sex. All are created equal.

The court has also affirmed this- Hernandez v Robles

But I guess that court was packed with a bunch of homophobic idiots because they didn't agree with you.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#150711 Jul 16, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
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Sorry I don't have a fear of humans
Try again.
Silly girl. Homophobia is a fear of being perceived as gay. That's why you try to act all butch and macho... but there's no danger of you winning an Oscar. Science has proved that 4 out of 5 vocal homophobes are secretly gay. So instead of fooling anyone, you gave away your little secret.
Buzzed tower

Monrovia, CA

#150712 Jul 16, 2012
Ak - you didn't make your medical, your grounded for life!
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#150713 Jul 16, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
More you Say??
Ok-- "The first Question is settled by Vattel in the following Paragraph, vizt--." John Jay 1785 ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage ...)
Still not enough??
"In order to prove that individuals in a State of nature are equally free & independent he read passages from Locke, Vattel, Lord Summers--Priestly. To prove that the case is the same with States till they surrender"-- Record of Federal COnvention 1787- Madison ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage ...)
Had enough yet??
How about a few more..
"The first principle of government is founded on the natural rights of individuals, and in perfect equality. Locke, Vattel, Lord Somers, and Dr. Priestly, all confirm this principle"- Record of the Federal Convention 1787 ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage ...)
"I am in Want of the following Books from Messr Jackson & Dunn, & wish to know whether I must send the others to Phila., or deliver them to any Friend of those Gentlemen here. The Books wanted are Vattel's Law of Nations...." Elbridge Gerry to Timothy Pickering 1785-- http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D ...::
"Dear Sir York in Pennsylvania Novr 8. 1777 The following Books are much wanted by some Gentlemen of Congress, & are not to be procured in this Place; if they are to be found in the Pennsylvania Library, which We are informed is removed by Order of your Excellency to Lancaster, I shall be much obliged to You for the Loan thereof being with respect your Excellency's very huml sert,(1) E Gerry
Vattell's Law of Nations" Elbridge Gerry to Thomas Wharton ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D ...::)
Hmm, why would Congress be so interested in getting this book by Vattel if he was so inconsequential to the writting of the US Constitution?? I mean wouldn't they already know British Common law and have no need for Vattel if in fact our laws were based solely on Common Law as you claim??
Need some more??
"I will proceed on first principls. every man out of society is equal, in Freedom, & every other quality of man--Lock, Vattel, & others prove this position" -- Record of he Federal Convention 1787 ( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage ...)
"I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the law of nations."-- Charles William Frederic Dumas 1780
http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D ...::
Doesn't get much more evident than this that when the Law of Nations was referenced it meant VATTEL!!!
I agree with Rose.
The founders thought women were too stupid to be allowed to vote and that slavery was ok. Hardly shining examples of morality. Besides, it's 2012. They've all been dead for over 200 years.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#150714 Jul 16, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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Interesting, you never seem to be able to refute anything I say, just continue with your childish banter. Perhaps it's time you moved from your parents basement?
There's nothing to argue about.

You continually derail the subject matter, play pompous games and dance around like a chicken on the roof of a black Corvette in a Phoenix parking lot.

The matter at hand defies simplicity game player. The fact we're not allowing fellow U.S. citizens a freedom and liberty they wish to pursue - specifically allowing gays to marry the adult of their choice.

You're just some punk who found a home in the internet who can banter with his bullshit because no doubt you were ostracized everywhere else...LOL!!!

Get lost.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#150715 Jul 16, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
They are equal, everyone across the board- Heterosexual, Homosexual, White, Black, Asian, Polygamist, Italian, Cuban, Mexican........ Can all marry one person of the opposite sex, and not one of them can marry someone of the same sex. All are created equal.
The court has also affirmed this- Hernandez v Robles
But I guess that court was packed with a bunch of homophobic idiots because they didn't agree with you.
That's not equal. Even by your own definition DUMBFUCK.

Let me spell it out givben maybe you weren't given Flinstones as a child.

Maariage involves finding that one adult you love, cherish and want to marry.

Pretty F-ING tough when that one adult you find is of the same sex now isn't is SHITFORBRAINS????

ROFL!!!!!!

What??? You think they should be reincarnated as a stgraight individual and do it again???

LOL!!!!

Talk about mentally blind. There's no guide I can give vyou to get you out of your dark cave of ign orance friend. Sorry. You're fucked.

Since: Jun 07

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#150716 Jul 16, 2012
Buzzed tower wrote:
Ak - you didn't make your medical, your grounded for life!
My first class medical is just fine.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#150717 Jul 16, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey idiot, there was nothing to refute in the post I replied to, much like yours it was a waste of bandwidth. No pertinent facts were presented, hence there is nothing to debate.
If you care to present something for argument do so, otherwise you are simply an idiot looking for attention, much like Rose, Dan, and the Prof Guy.
"Refute"...LOL!!!

Refute this - All American citizens should be due a full set of rights and liberties unless those said liberties or freedoms prduce harm.

----Find harm in gay marrige or get lost punk.

Since: Jun 07

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#150718 Jul 16, 2012
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
There's nothing to argue about.
You're right, with you there is nothing to argue, you have proven incapable of providing serious debate.

You simply rant on and on saying absolutely nothing.

Since: Jun 07

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#150719 Jul 16, 2012
Dan wrote:
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That's not equal. Even by your own definition DUMBFUCK.
Treating everyone equally and requiring everyone one to follow the same rules isn't "equal"?

What planet do you live on?
Dan

Roseville, CA

#150720 Jul 16, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
They are equal, everyone across the board- Heterosexual, Homosexual, White, Black, Asian, Polygamist, Italian, Cuban, Mexican........ Can all marry one person of the opposite sex, and not one of them can marry someone of the same sex. All are created equal.
The court has also affirmed this- Hernandez v Robles
But I guess that court was packed with a bunch of homophobic idiots because they didn't agree with you.
I'm sorry jackass.

What court.

Move to Afghanistan. Hell....lots of their citizens agree with you.

Join the KKK. They agree with you.

Work with the lawyers trying to get redused sentences for those clowns who tied a gay kid to a Wyoming fencepost so he could freeze to death.

You might hold some input that would prove to be valuable to them.

You're a punk. Always will be. Wear the name.
We said

Monrovia, CA

#150721 Jul 16, 2012
We don't care if you can spin in circles, just gety a life and move on and off this site.

But I know you will not, so stay.

Since: Jun 07

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#150722 Jul 16, 2012
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
"Refute"...LOL!!!
Refute this - All American citizens should be due a full set of rights and liberties unless those said liberties or freedoms prduce harm.
----Find harm in gay marrige or get lost punk.
Nope, not in the Constitution, nor did any of the founders make that claim.

I have no interest in refuting your fantasy.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#150723 Jul 16, 2012
Christ...if anyone were to walk down the aisle as Mister Typo 2012 with a reservation in hand for the 2013 pangeant it would be me.

Sorry for the increased budget spent on Excedrine folks. I'll try to clean it up.
Surgon

Monrovia, CA

#150724 Jul 16, 2012
I just got off the phone with the flight surgon, your still grounded for life.

So get off your knees and face the facts - your over the hill and a risk to yourself and everyone around you when you post.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#150725 Jul 16, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, not in the Constitution, nor did any of the founders make that claim.
I have no interest in refuting your fantasy.
Right. The Constitution never laid out freedoms for American citizens.

Like I said move. Other countriews may want you given you might have a hidden skillset we don't know about but this one is BASED on the freedoms laid out for all of it's citizens. No shit Sherlock.

You're pretty stupid pal.

Since: Jun 07

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#150726 Jul 16, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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I agree with Rose.
The founders thought women were too stupid to be allowed to vote and that slavery was ok. Hardly shining examples of morality. Besides, it's 2012. They've all been dead for over 200 years.
We know you hate our country. Why don't you leave?

BTW, did they hate Blacks when the wrote Article I Sec 2?

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