Original Location of Willow Springs
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speedster

Branson, MO

#21 Jan 2, 2009
Horton wrote:
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Original Location of Willow Springs
That is just about the junction of 60 and RA highway.
Disgusted

Shawnee, OK

#22 Jan 2, 2009
Where you been Speedster? That new job keeping you off the threads?
curious

Ozark, MO

#23 Feb 1, 2009
I am intersted in learning more history of Willow Springs. When Willow was at its first location (hwy 60 past RA) was there a school and where was it located? What about Hutton Valley, where does it fit in to history in relationn to Willow Springs? Is the historical society in Willow a knowledgeable resource?

“Country boys rule!”

Since: Jan 09

In the Howell County burbs

#24 Feb 2, 2009
curious wrote:
I am intersted in learning more history of Willow Springs. When Willow was at its first location (hwy 60 past RA) was there a school and where was it located? What about Hutton Valley, where does it fit in to history in relationn to Willow Springs? Is the historical society in Willow a knowledgeable resource?
I haven't been in the Willow Springs library in a long time and don't know if they have anything there or not. But try the West Plains library and also make contact with the West Plains High School. They used to publish a magazine called the West Plains Gazette which was an awesome thing portraying the history of Howell County and they left hardly a stone unturned. They may have back issues at the library in West Plains, not for sure.
WSB

Branson, MO

#25 Feb 2, 2009
There is a Historical Society in Willow Springs. It is located in the brick house across from the library. I understand they have some realy interesting articles and pictures from back in the day. You could call Lou Wehmer for the times they meet. Also there is book about Willow Springs written by Ella Horak. I think the library has a copy.
snoopy

United States

#26 Mar 7, 2009
The CCC camps are around, there is one just outside of Mt. view, and what about Olden? At one time it was a large community with orchards, a school, several businesses and the like
country boy wrote:
I dont know who you are but we have been thinking alike - I have spent almost 2 hours researching and trying to find old maps of that Burnham - Horton Railroad. And I have come up empty.
As far as the CCC camps there is a website for that but the last time I found it there wasnt many Missouri pictures in it at all. One thing I havent tried is to see if the Forest Service has a website with the camp histories in them.
As far as road maps MoDot still has all the old maps in their office in Willow but I dont know if you can just go in there and look at them, and I dont know if they have anything on their website.
local yokel

United States

#27 Mar 7, 2009
snoopy wrote:
The CCC camps are around, there is one just outside of Mt. view, and what about Olden? At one time it was a large community with orchards, a school, several businesses and the like<quoted text>
Theres also a place outside willow springs called Saratoga. Theres still part of an old dam where a bunch of cabins used to be. There was also a dance hall, and a baseball field, and I guess there were even rowboats to paddle in the lake. I guess it was destroyed in the 20s or 30s
grave digger

Canada

#28 Mar 7, 2009
Can I go with you to find the rail line? I will hold your tools!
snoopy

Eldridge, MO

#29 Mar 8, 2009
Part of the old Willow Springs Mt. View tri weekly rail line is accessable just off of county road 3080 Just outside of Mt view

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Long ago, far away

#30 Mar 10, 2009
country boy wrote:
I dont know who you are but we have been thinking alike - I have spent almost 2 hours researching and trying to find old maps of that Burnham - Horton Railroad. And I have come up empty.
Some old Missouri Railroads maps are available at the Library of Congress. Go to www.loc.gov , and search on Missouri Railroads.
Unfortunately, the maps on the pages are very small. You can download the images but need special software to view them.

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Since: Feb 09

Long ago, far away

#31 Mar 10, 2009
I downloaded the 1872 Asher & Adams map and it shows no railroad in Howell County at all.

The Galbraith's railway mail service maps, 1897, 1898 shows one line that roughly follows the current BNSF line coming in to Cabool and then down Sargent, Sterling, Willow Springs to West Plains continuing to Kosh and second line that branches out from Willow to Hutton Valley, Trask and Mountain View then continues west through Shannon County.

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Since: Feb 09

Long ago, far away

#32 Mar 10, 2009
Oops, here we go. Commissioners official railway map of Missouri. Completed to January 1st 1888. Copyright 1887 by R. T. Higgins shows a "spur" that goes from Burnham which is north of where Pomona lies now to Cord or Cordz to the southwest. Olden appears on the map but Pomona does not. There is also a Chapin between West Plains and Brandsville.

The west bound railroad I mentioned above is labeled the Current River Railroad. The roughly north/south line is labeled the Kansas City S & M RR.

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Long ago, far away

#33 Mar 10, 2009
Howell County, Current River Railroad

In the late 1880s, the South Central Region of Missouri was still remote and sparsely populated. A group of Pennsylvania businessmen founded the Missouri Lumber and Mining Company in the region. In an effort to more easily export timber from the company's 100,000 acres of forest in Carter County, they sought a railroad connection to the area (Stevens, Jr.). The Kansas City, Fort Scott and Memphis Railroad were interested in becoming a distribution partner. A junction connecting the Kansas City-Memphis route to Willow Springs was created. To create this connection, the Kansas City, Fort Scott and Memphis Railroad formed another railroad called the Current River Railroad Company. Early railroad companies often spun a vicious web of small, interrelated companies designed to protect or isolate their business interests in case of lawsuit (Good).

The Current River Railroad route was built east from Willow Springs and reached Grandin in 1888. In 1889, it connected in Hunter with the Cape Girardeau Southwestern Railroad, which had built from the Doniphan to the east. Both railroad routes had several feeder lines or spurs built off of it, which extended into the region as new forest areas were harvested (Stevens, Jr.).

In 1901, the Current River Railroad Company was acquired by the St. Louis and San Francisco Railroad Company. By 1920, much of the more readily accessible timber had been harvested from the region. Many of the tram or spur lines were likely abandoned as soon as the timber harvesting was completed. Parts of the main line were cast off in the 1930s, and finally in 1983, the remaining 37 miles of its then owner, the Burlington Northern-Santa Fe Railroad (Interstate Commerce Commission, Certificate and Decision, Docket No.), abandoned main line from Willow Springs to Winona AB-6 (Sub-No. 144) Decided: June 7, 1983.

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kik

Ozark, MO

#34 Nov 12, 2010
Visiting from Va does anyone know the first homesteaders or travelers to the areas dates around willow?
explorer

United States

#35 Nov 13, 2010
Have explored the old Horton railroad spur. Took a metal detector but didn't find alot. Just bunk of railroad spikes and trash. Would take lots of time to find anything good as there are so many huge trees covering it now. Only way to access it is with 4 wheelers and on foot.
aak

Willow Springs, MO

#36 Mar 18, 2011
local yokel wrote:
<quoted text>Theres also a place outside willow springs called Saratoga. Theres still part of an old dam where a bunch of cabins used to be. There was also a dance hall, and a baseball field, and I guess there were even rowboats to paddle in the lake. I guess it was destroyed in the 20s or 30s
How can I get to saratoga from Willow?
The Viking

Ozark, MO

#37 Mar 25, 2011
What is left of Saratoga is on private property.
To get there, take the Pine Grove Road about 2.5
miles to the Pine Grove Cemetary. Immediately
before you get there is a county road to the right.
Follow that county road until you come to a low
water crossing. If you look to the east (toward
town) Saratoga was on that property.

Once, years ago, Joyce Burns took me there. He told me wonderful stories about that place and the
people who went there.
aak

Ozark, MO

#38 Apr 6, 2011
local yokel wrote:
<quoted text>Theres also a place outside willow springs called Saratoga. Theres still part of an old dam where a bunch of cabins used to be. There was also a dance hall, and a baseball field, and I guess there were even rowboats to paddle in the lake. I guess it was destroyed in the 20s or 30s
Would you happen to know anything more about Saratoga or anywhere that I could find more info on it?
aak

Ozark, MO

#39 Apr 6, 2011
The Viking wrote:
What is left of Saratoga is on private property.
To get there, take the Pine Grove Road about 2.5
miles to the Pine Grove Cemetary. Immediately
before you get there is a county road to the right.
Follow that county road until you come to a low
water crossing. If you look to the east (toward
town) Saratoga was on that property.
Once, years ago, Joyce Burns took me there. He told me wonderful stories about that place and the
people who went there.
Do you have any more info about saratoga? What it was there for? who went there?
The Viking

United States

#40 Apr 6, 2011
aak wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have any more info about saratoga? What it was there for? who went there?
Saratoga was a place where people went to drink, eat,
gamble and dance. It was, however, expensive and the domain
of the wealthier people in the area.

The owners dammed the creek and made a lake where men and
women sometimes skinny dipped (such sin!). There were also
cabins for those who wanted to do more than swim together.

A man who had led a very interesting life told me about going there with great enthusiasm and nostalgia. An argument with his girlfriend about this place led him not to go with her to a nightclub in West Plains that exploded and killed her and many young people.

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