Texas Leaving The United States?

Texas Leaving The United States?

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Resident

West Plains, MO

#1 Apr 18, 2009
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/n...

Texas leaving the US? Probably not gonna happen, but would you support it if they did?
Libertarian For Life

Ava, MO

#2 Apr 18, 2009
Probably not going to happen (yet). Texans generally aren't the rugged, independent, liberty-conscious folks they once were. Like most Americans, they happily acquiesce to the U.S. government's steady theft of their rights and property via unlawful statutes, programs, and activities.

Unfamiliar with historical or legal details, being largely products of public (i.e., government) "education," today's Texans easily adopt the "politically correct" myths that litter the landscape of American popular opinion. Many don't even know what the word secede means, and believe that the United States is a "democracy" (hint: it's not).

But public opinion and ignorance won't stop us from suggesting that secession is still a good idea for people who value their rights and personal liberty more highly than the temporal affluence, comfort, and false security provided by the U.S. welfare/warfare state. By raising public awareness of even the concept of secession, we hope they might plant seeds that will some day yield a new resolve among Texans and MISSOURIANS for liberty and self-government.

“Mike Huffman”

Since: Mar 09

Arkansas

#3 Apr 18, 2009
Texas is Texas, if they did secede, I would hate it, I got family in east Texas, but I certainly can't blame them, the older I get, the more I realize why Arkansas seceded in 1861! If it gets much worse, maybe the rest of us should consider Texas! And no, because I believe in state soveirnty and state rights, I wouldn't meddle unlike some!

Since: Sep 08

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#4 Apr 18, 2009
Its a very Intriqing notion, but can anybody imagine trying to defend and control a border the size of Texas on all 4 sides?...They sure do have the means and capabilities to strike out on their own with all the stratigic, energy resources, and economy advantages with the Import and export ports and access to the Gulf that they have...BUT...it could be a big problem with the pressure from Mexico because of the Huge hispanic population of Texas. It seems its easier said than done today. Can anyone even imagine the chaos of influx and out bound of population movements that would ensue also?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#5 Apr 18, 2009
There are a lot Issues that would have to be thought out and managed and worked out as a new nation. Texas also has a large Retiree Population who are receiving US Government entitlements {Social Security, Railroad Pensions, Military Retirements, etc. etc.}.How would Texas deal with that Issue? Would they honor them?...and How?...What about Citizenship Issues?...What Constitution would they adopt?...What would their Government be like?...How would they relate with the rest of the USA?...What about foreign relations?...Monetary evaluations and worth?...National Security?...Current Federal Committments?...Tax Issues and Policy?...How would Texas be funded to get off the ground?..

...and several more too many to list....Something to think about.

“Mike Huffman”

Since: Mar 09

Arkansas

#6 Apr 19, 2009
Honestly, from a personal standpoint, I love Texas, I would hate to think what America would be like without this great state. For one, without Texas, the most populated red state in the Union, the blue states would always win the Presidential election, and, another big thorn, would be the special interest packages being imposed on the rest of us because Texas isn't there to protect us. If any state does secede, let it be California, good riddance as far as I'm concerned!
Disgusted

United States

#7 Apr 19, 2009
IMO all the talk about states leaving the union is just a manifestation of the frustration which now exists in our country. It is not practical nor realistic that any state would secede. It just goes to show that people are fed up, angry and want our government officials to represent the wishes and needs of the people other than being self serving.
There are many people now protesting who supported Obama. They wanted change from how things were but what they are getting is not exactly what they had in mind. I will reserve my opinion on how they should have educated themselves on what changes he put forward during the campaign.
Raised Texan

United States

#8 Apr 19, 2009
Remember Six Flags Over Texas?
Texans can and MIGHT!

Six Flags:
Spain, France, Mexico, Republic of Texas, Confederate States of America, United States of America.

Point being, every state should retain the rights given it by the U.S. Constitution and the federal government should be LIMITED, as outlined, by the U.S. Constitution.

Texans are like no other. Even the signs at the side of the highways say "Don't Mess With Texas!"
And as Ron White has said, not only do they have the death penalty - THEY USE IT! And if you commit a particularly heinous crime you go to the EXPRESS LANE!

Many great civilizations before the United States of America have come unravelled but that does not mean that there were not many great new independant nations (see Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics aka USSR). Soviet Socialist Republics = United Socialist States of America.

If the liberals keep up their socialist agenda I can foresee another state in which I resided following suit - Alaska.

Citizens of Texas and Alaska are very independant sorts that don't mind telling you to kiss their collective asses.

Wasn't the civil war fought over whether the confederate states had the right to succede from the union?

We're living in perilous times friends.
Northwest

Spokane, WA

#9 Sep 29, 2009
I supported Obama, but I'm scared more now than ever for my financial security and freedoms.

Penalties for not paying for health insurance - why the hell would someone go without insurance - because they freeking can't afford it thats why - so lets penalize them for being broke?

Obama has his fingers in so many laws and is making changes faster than the speed of light, how can one think things through clearly without taking his time?

If Texas splits off, I'll be the first one to apply to be a citizen.
Adam

Eugene, OR

#10 Mar 12, 2010
It's pretty funny how people think that Texas would do well off on their own outside of the United States, your as dumb as cowbells and maybe all of you fools have been hit in the head a few too many times. If you did succeed, it would be a godsend. I mean shit if you look at how horrible the health insurance system is down there you would degrate to worse standards than mexico as you would by caught by mexico fighting on your southern border and the us kicking you on the north, boy that's about as stupid as it gets. As far as gas goes, I live in the northwest where we could easily generate corn based fuel and cleaner technology with next to no reliance.
American Vet

Sparta, MO

#11 Mar 13, 2010
YOUES ANOTHER LIBERAL COMMIE OBAMA ZOMBIE, DumbAss!
Texas has been teaching some lessons to which the rest of the nation should pay heed.

They are lessons that are particularly vivid when you contrast Texas, the nation's second most populous state, with the most populous, California. Both were once Mexican territory, secured for the United States in the 1840s. Both have grown prodigiously over the past half-century. Both have populations that today are about one-third Hispanic.

But they differ vividly in public policy and in their economic progress -- or lack of it -- over the last decade. California has gone in for big government in a big way. Democrats hold large margins in the legislature largely because affluent voters in Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay area favor their liberal positions on cultural issues.

Those Democratic majorities have obediently done the bidding of public employee unions to the point that state government faces huge budget deficits. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's attempt to reduce the power of the Democratic-union combine with referenda was defeated in 2005 when public employee unions poured $100 million -- all originally extracted from taxpayers -- into effective TV ads.

Californians have responded by leaving the state. From 2000 to 2009, the Census Bureau estimates, there has been a domestic outflow of 1,509,000 people from California -- almost as many as the number of immigrants coming in. Population growth has not been above the national average and, for the first time in history, it appears that California will gain no House seats or electoral votes from the reapportionment following the 2010 Census.

Texas is a different story. Texas has low taxes -- and no state income taxes -- and a much smaller government. Its legislature meets for only 90 days every two years, compared to California's year-round legislature. Its fiscal condition is sound. Public employee unions are weak or nonexistent.

But Texas seems to be delivering superior services. Its teachers are paid less than California's. But its test scores -- and with a demographically similar school population -- are higher. California's once fabled freeways are crumbling and crowded. Texas has built gleaming new highways in metro Houston and Dallas-Fort Worth.

In the meantime, Texas' economy has been booming. Unemployment rates have been below the national average for more than a decade, as companies small and large generate new jobs.

And Americans have been voting for Texas with their feet. From 2000 to 2009, some 848,000 people moved from other parts of the United States to Texas, about the same number as moved in from abroad. That inflow has continued in 2008-09, in which 143,000 Americans moved into Texas, more than double the number in any other state, at the same time as 98,000 were moving out of California. Texas is on the way to gain four additional House seats and electoral votes in the 2010 reapportionment.

This was not always so. In the two decades after World War II, California, with its pleasant weather, was the Golden State, a promised land, for most Americans, while Texas seemed a provincial rural backwater. Many saw postwar California's expansion of universities, freeways and water systems a model for the nation. Few experts praised Texas' low-tax, low-services government.

Now it is California's ruinously expensive and increasingly incompetent government that seems dysfunctional, while Texas' approach has generated more creativity and opportunity. So it's not surprising that Texas voters preferred Perry over an opponent who has spent 16 years in Washington. What's surprising is that Democrats in Washington are still trying to impose policies like those that have ravaged California rather than those which have proved so successful in Texas.
http://patriotpost.us/opinion/michael-barone/...
lucky lindy

Oklahoma City, OK

#12 Jul 10, 2010
Resident wrote:
http://www.dallasnews.com/shar edcontent/dws/news/texassouthw est/legislature/stories/DN-sec ession_18tex.ART.State.Edition 2.4ad88cf.html
Texas leaving the US? Probably not gonna happen, but would you support it if they did?
YOU BETCHA!!!
dirty wilma

United States

#13 Jul 10, 2010
If everything is so good in Tx why are you in Mo.?
American Vet

Sparta, MO

#14 Jul 11, 2010
This should explain it to you, dirty wilma. And Arizona also have BALLS!

Black Panther Racists Driven Out Of Joe Horn's Town [Video]


Joe Horn, the Texas man who shot two robbers after calling 911, was the target of the racist group New Panther Party and their leader and race panderer "Quanell X" who decided to attempt to make a statement that the crime was racially motivated and call for Horn's prosecution.

Both of the robbers, Diego Ortiz and Miguel Antonio DeJesus, were dark skinned Hispanics that the media has referred to on numerous occasions as "black men". They are however believed to be Puerto Rican or Dominican, but apparently the reports of them being Black fooled the Black Panthers as otherwise they wouldn't care. Ortiz and DeJesus were both killed in the shooting. The Black Panthers apparently take the side of criminals and against whites no matter if that person is the scum of the Earth. That should come as no surprise to most since the Black Panthers have always been a racial separatist group. They are the Black KKK, the Black Nazi's.

Well Joe Horn's town in Pasadena, Texas was having nothing of it, and as you'll see in the video below - that was shot by John Little of Blogs of War - hundreds of residents showed up to show Quanell X and his racist band that this is America!

Now if we could just get America moving on standing up to race panderers and outright racists like Bill Richardson, LA Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, Illinois Democrat Congressman Luis Gutierrez, La Raza, MEChA and MALDEF. Then we could end this charade that Americans have to lay down and be pushed around by these groups who want a Hispanic Reconquista of portions of our country through allowing unchecked illegal immigration. Those people and groups are every bit as much the separatists as the Black Panthers.
American Vet

Sparta, MO

#15 Jul 11, 2010
I might add, if this had of been whites marching into a black neighborhood they would most likely have been killed or severally beaten.

Dr. King said: "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

The black panther, jesse jackson, al (not too) sharpton, and the rest of these idiots, are racists, along with you beloved president.

And before you call me a racist, I'm not, I'd vote for Alan Keyes in a heartbeat. I'm only against wibblers commies, who are destroying our country and taking away our liberties. The skin color isn't the issue.
hernando

West Plains, MO

#16 Jul 11, 2010
one man one vote. we may vote on going back under Mexico as we use to be. And we didnt have to fire a single shot.
gab gab gab

West Plains, MO

#17 Jul 11, 2010
Northwest wrote:
I supported Obama, but I'm scared more now than ever for my financial security and freedoms.
Penalties for not paying for health insurance - why the hell would someone go without insurance - because they freeking can't afford it thats why - so lets penalize them for being broke?
Obama has his fingers in so many laws and is making changes faster than the speed of light, how can one think things through clearly without taking his time?
If Texas splits off, I'll be the first one to apply to be a citizen.
Sure you will!!! Better wait til Abraham Obama moves all of the m1a1 abrams back to the north or you might get shocked and awed.
Proud Texan

Ozark, MO

#18 Jul 11, 2010
dirty wilma wrote:
If everything is so good in Tx why are you in Mo.?
The reason this Texan is in Missouri is because the company that I work for told me I had to be here. I can't wait until my job here is done and I can go home. Missouri sucks!!
gab gab gab

Branson, MO

#19 Jul 11, 2010
I was in texus once. Took a crap behind some sage brush near a sand dune. Maybe you saw it?
Hear they gonna cut Alaska in half and make texus third place.
hernando

Branson, MO

#20 Jul 11, 2010
gab gab gab wrote:
I was in texus once. Took a crap behind some sage brush near a sand dune. Maybe you saw it?
Hear they gonna cut Alaska in half and make texus third place.
that wrong gringo. when we annex texas Chihuahua NOW be mas grande state in all norte de america. First thing we do get rid of Ingles make Espanol only language. You foreigners want to come to texas learn to speak right. viva la mexico.

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