Orland Fire Protection District
Rubberman says

Chicago, IL

#22 Mar 8, 2013
I always thought it was stupid to use a $500-$750K piece of equipment to grocery shop because the Battalion Chief won't allow them to use his Chevy Suburban. Kind of like the police using the helecopter to make a coffee run.
oh well

United States

#23 Mar 9, 2013
bob no last name wrote:
Oh well you should get training on the decimal point--since your
all always training---you get paid for 105 hrs every two weeks
(thats the point of this)) you work 10.5 hrs very two weeks--I am sorry
your lucky to "Work" 1.5 hrs every two weeks--I need decimal lessons --
I would like to know if you were in charge what would the fire service look like under the "bob no last name" world? What would the pay be? What would their benefits be? Would they be able to shop to survive the day or a few they are there? How long would their shifts be? How many firefighters per fire engine would be acceptable? Since you seem to have all the answers I would love to hear them..ps-Its One Hundred and Five hours every two weeks. Which during that One hundred and Five Hours you miss holidays, weekends, birthdays it doesn't matter. You clearly couldn't handle it mr accountant!
Bubba

Orland Park, IL

#24 Mar 30, 2013
oh well wrote:
<quoted text>
Umm no. They all go into the store to shop. When they get a call they have to leave their cart and go. What are you talking about "tax taker"?! They have to pay taxes as well. Hey you work 105 hours every 2 weeks. Pretty sure you won't be complaining about this stupid crap.
They are "there" 105 hours a week. Define work.

Seems they could send one guy over to shop for groceries in a car versus a truck that get about 4 MPG...but thne agian saving taxpayer money in Orland Township isn't a concern.
oh well

United States

#25 Mar 30, 2013
Bubba wrote:
<quoted text>They are "there" 105 hours a week. Define work.

Seems they could send one guy over to shop for groceries in a car versus a truck that get about 4 MPG...but thne agian saving taxpayer money in Orland Township isn't a concern.
You define work when you're running out of a burning building and they are running in! You define work when someone is having a heart attack and you back out of the way so the FD can work the patient. You define work when there is a car accident and there is a pin in. You know what, everybody loves to pick on the FD but when you need them you will see they don't just sit around all day and are just "there". They train, take courses, educate the public on fire safety, do inspections among a ton of other stuff. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about when you think one guy can go to the store in a car. And the asinine thought that they are just "there" is just ridiculous!
dumb

Oak Forest, IL

#26 Jul 28, 2013
CitiZEN7 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but it's a waste of resources to be using the fire truck to run to the store for groceries. Use a delivery service like PeaPod. It would be cheaper.
yea use peapod eveyday for 3 different shifts great idea (not)
fireman are heroes

Orland Park, IL

#27 Jul 29, 2013
I don't care if the fireman that a rig out to shop. They on the streets ready to respond to any call at any moment. So you jealous little assclowns worry about yourself. Pick on people that don't risk their lives to help others. Our fire department is one of the best in the country. The new chief has the department morale better than it as been for years. If the only reason you are in the news is going to buy food. Then we are in good shape. DR
Stop It Mr Fireman

Orland Park, IL

#28 Aug 1, 2013
fireman are heroes wrote:
I don't care if the fireman that a rig out to shop. They on the streets ready to respond to any call at any moment. So you jealous little assclowns worry about yourself. Pick on people that don't risk their lives to help others. Our fire department is one of the best in the country. The new chief has the department morale better than it as been for years. If the only reason you are in the news is going to buy food. Then we are in good shape. DR
it is obvious you are a firefighter. You would have no idea about morale. You are wrong the new "Political Hack Chief Gorman ass kisser does not have the morale at its highest level. The previous chief was head and shoulders above the current chief who by the way was not good enough to be promoted to the chief or deputy chief position at his previous department prior to his nation wide search (what a joke) hiring at Orland. He was just promoted to Lieutenant prior to Orland sudden interest in the football coach of Gormans kids as chief. And for the record the acting chief of Orland has a resume that is 10 time greater then the current chief and so do a lot of other Orland guys currently on the job. But they are not sucking up to Gorman or coaching their kids which seems to be what you need to be employed at Orland. Nothing has changed but last names.
Stop it Walter

Orland Park, IL

#29 Aug 8, 2013
The only thing that the old chief did was promote his buddies and his girlfriend. Promoted his buddy to Deputy Chief which was illegal. Promoted anyone that kissed his ass. OOps sorry one buddy has been demoted.
Did the old chief land another chief job yet? Most do (if they were worth something).
Oh thats right Maher and the gang did a nationwide search after they buried Bettenhausen, and came up with you know who
Gerry G

Orland Park, IL

#30 Aug 14, 2013
Stop it Walter wrote:
The only thing that the old chief did was promote his buddies and his girlfriend. Promoted his buddy to Deputy Chief which was illegal. Promoted anyone that kissed his ass. OOps sorry one buddy has been demoted.
Did the old chief land another chief job yet? Most do (if they were worth something).
Oh thats right Maher and the gang did a nationwide search after they buried Bettenhausen, and came up with you know who
Now GG is this all you have? Lets look at your record. You were mad when the agreement you had with Maher and his father was not up held. So you ran your people and won. Look at what you have done.
After a nation wide search you hired a chief who had 4 months as a Lieutenant with Pleasentview fire. That was the most qualified guy? He had the least qualification for the job but he was you kids football coach and would be a patsy to you and do exactly what he was told. So that is how/what you based his hiring on. By the way when the transcripts become available of the arbitration hearing the public will really get to see just how inexperienced the chief is. The union attorney really had to put no effort into proving the chief has no experience.It was like leading the lamb to slaughter. Some what comical but really sad for the tax payers and employees of Orland Fire District especially when the former acting chief has a lot more experience and a tremendous amount more education then the current chief.
Now you fire one of the most respected doctors in the area to administer department physicals. Who did you hire to replace him why a pediatrician that is who? Oh and this pediatrician just so happens to rent office space from trustee Dr Rhode. So this is a win win for you. The doctor essentially got his tax break he campaigned on by hiring the pediatrician who rents space from him. The amount is a staggering 500,000.00 per year.
You fired a highly qualified HR person because of lack of funds. The HR person advised you she would be willing to take a pay cut. You refused and hired a new HR person who had far far less qualifications who has connections the attorney you hired to represent Orland Fire. This is costing Orland tax payers a lot of money with the pending litigation.
You fire the attorney and hired a politically connected attorney. Then legal fees has now exceeded a staggering 200,000 per year. Absolutely incredible.
Hired an IT person. This person has almost no qualifications. But his biggest qualification is he was your kids baseball coach. Also, he was arrested twice for being on school property and actuall lead the police on a high speed chase. Is this the type of person the tax payers would want having complete access to medical records? Ah no. But once again he is connected to you.
Hired a receptionist who is very close friends to you. She literally sits 6-8 feet away from the other woman who use to answer the phones. But she is your friend and that is what patronage does hire buddies right.
Hired you buddy as attorney. The legal fees skyrocketed to over 200,000 per year for him alone and another several hundred thousand for the other attorneys hired to perform work he was not qualified to do. Enough said.
Fired a public education worker. Hired another girl to take her place. She was the LEAST qualified person who applied. But she is best friends with your wife and is currently going through a divorce. Oh and you and her soon to be ex husband use to own a car dealership together in Berwyn. Wait till the press FOIA the application for political patronage hire.
So the way it looks is it is business as usual in Orland Fire the only thing that has changed is the last names.
Party Rule

Chicago, IL

#31 Aug 22, 2013
Gerry G wrote:
<quoted text>Now GG is this all you have? Lets look at your record. You were mad when the agreement you had with Maher and his father was not up held. So you ran your people and won. Look at what you have done.
After a nation wide search you hired a chief who had 4 months as a Lieutenant with Pleasentview fire. That was the most qualified guy? He had the least qualification for the job but he was you kids football coach and would be a patsy to you and do exactly what he was told. So that is how/what you based his hiring on. By the way when the transcripts become available of the arbitration hearing the public will really get to see just how inexperienced the chief is. The union attorney really had to put no effort into proving the chief has no experience.It was like leading the lamb to slaughter. Some what comical but really sad for the tax payers and employees of Orland Fire District especially when the former acting chief has a lot more experience and a tremendous amount more education then the current chief.
Now you fire one of the most respected doctors in the area to administer department physicals. Who did you hire to replace him why a pediatrician that is who? Oh and this pediatrician just so happens to rent office space from trustee Dr Rhode. So this is a win win for you. The doctor essentially got his tax break he campaigned on by hiring the pediatrician who rents space from him. The amount is a staggering 500,000.00 per year.
You fired a highly qualified HR person because of lack of funds. The HR person advised you she would be willing to take a pay cut. You refused and hired a new HR person who had far far less qualifications who has connections the attorney you hired to represent Orland Fire. This is costing Orland tax payers a lot of money with the pending litigation.
You fire the attorney and hired a politically connected attorney. Then legal fees has now exceeded a staggering 200,000 per year. Absolutely incredible.
Hired an IT person. This person has almost no qualifications. But his biggest qualification is he was your kids baseball coach. Also, he was arrested twice for being on school property and actuall lead the police on a high speed chase. Is this the type of person the tax payers would want having complete access to medical records? Ah no. But once again he is connected to you.
Hired a receptionist who is very close friends to you. She literally sits 6-8 feet away from the other woman who use to answer the phones. But she is your friend and that is what patronage does hire buddies right.
Hired you buddy as attorney. The legal fees skyrocketed to over 200,000 per year for him alone and another several hundred thousand for the other attorneys hired to perform work he was not qualified to do. Enough said.
Fired a public education worker. Hired another girl to take her place. She was the LEAST qualified person who applied. But she is best friends with your wife and is currently going through a divorce. Oh and you and her soon to be ex husband use to own a car dealership together in Berwyn. Wait till the press FOIA the application for political patronage hire.
So the way it looks is it is business as usual in Orland Fire the only thing that has changed is the last names.
Your statement must have been true. If it were not he would have been all over it. By the way I heard the chief's inexperience and the rest of the staff's ineptness cost the tax payers a bundle in arbitration. The union won every single issue.
Yet Another

Midlothian, IL

#32 Aug 22, 2013
I have a question. Midlothian and Crestwood are going to drop using private ambulances and hire their own paramedics. Is this a good idea and would Orland help out if either of those towns needed additional ambulances? Many resident think this is a bad idea that it is too expensive and if we needed multiple ambulance we would be in big trouble. I saw this thread while posting my view on Midlothian and thought I would ask. Thanks.
my view

United States

#33 Sep 1, 2013
Yet Another wrote:
I have a question. Midlothian and Crestwood are going to drop using private ambulances and hire their own paramedics. Is this a good idea and would Orland help out if either of those towns needed additional ambulances? Many resident think this is a bad idea that it is too expensive and if we needed multiple ambulance we would be in big trouble. I saw this thread while posting my view on Midlothian and thought I would ask. Thanks.
I think it's the wrong time to do this. It's going to cost roughly over 600,000 to go Als where's this $ come from us. More manpower more overtime etc pay raises because now they are paramedics and again where does all this $$ come from us the tax payers.
Just leave it alone.
Liz G

Orland Park, IL

#34 Sep 5, 2013
The union did not win every issue. The union lost many things. They gave up a ton of lieutenant spots and engineer spots, lost the flexibility of moving kelly days around.
sad

Orland Park, IL

#35 Sep 5, 2013
Look mr.gerry G you sound like a child. So that being said. It was a brilliant move on hiring who knows how to coach children. No degree will get you prepared to handle nasty angry people. So just stamp your feet make your post you simpleton.
Gerry G

Orland Park, IL

#36 Sep 5, 2013
I am not a child. I am just mad because nobody loves me. I not able to do my job right because I am not smart. I am not a good person. I am ugly on the inside. I used to always get my way because I am loud and a bully. But not anymore and I am so mad. It is all about me.
Stop it Mr fireman

Orland Park, IL

#37 Sep 6, 2013
I am sorry too. I realize I am just jealous. I have no clout around here anymore. I kiss so much ass with the last chief and now I have to do my job and that sucks. They brought in an outsider to clean up this mess. But I liked the mess because I was in charge. I am going to turn over a new leaf and stop posting childish crap about people. I am going to stop bitching about every small thing and be a better person. With that being said maybe my wife will take me back. Let hope others see the light as well.
Funny

Chicago, IL

#38 Sep 6, 2013
Stop it Mr fireman wrote:
I am sorry too. I realize I am just jealous. I have no clout around here anymore. I kiss so much ass with the last chief and now I have to do my job and that sucks. They brought in an outsider to clean up this mess. But I liked the mess because I was in charge. I am going to turn over a new leaf and stop posting childish crap about people. I am going to stop bitching about every small thing and be a better person. With that being said maybe my wife will take me back. Let hope others see the light as
well.
Funny how you responded to that post and talk about how bad the last regime was but completely and totally ignored the post from party rules that laid out all of your patronage hiring and how it didn't matter if they had experience it just mattered they knew you. And by the way the chief you hired has Zero experience and it is now really showing. He only has a few supporters now because they guys are tired of himlying about all of his experience. Even guys who usually stay neutral are now turning their back on this guy. He will crash and burn sooner than later.A nation wide search turned up this guy. Really what a disgrace. His inexperience really shined through during his failed attempt at testifying during arbitration. Lawyers groups along with the international union is using him as a case study on how to win arbitration hearings. He made a fool of himself and the trustees who hired him on your orders. Shows just how stupid you are.
Funny haha

Orland Park, IL

#39 Sep 6, 2013
You are such a little cry ass. I love it. You repeat the same company line in every post. Thats because you are retarded. You can't think for yourself. That makes you someones bitch. You are so angry. We could do a nation wide search and not find a bigger ass clown than you. we know that you are not a big union guy either. You said screw the union when your boy was in charge. And now since things have changed you are now pro union. We know that you are just a wind sox. So the next time you are sitting at the kitchen table talking about union business just know we all think you are full of shit. If you made chief you would screw us over so fast. So mr funny just remember every day we see you we laughing at you not with you. Hahaha
Still Waiting

Midlothian, IL

#40 Sep 7, 2013
Funny haha wrote:
You are such a little cry ass. I love it. You repeat the same company line in every post. Thats because you are retarded. You can't think for yourself. That makes you someones bitch. You are so angry. We could do a nation wide search and not find a bigger ass clown than you. we know that you are not a big union guy either. You said screw the union when your boy was in charge. And now since things have changed you are now pro union. We know that you are just a wind sox. So the next time you are sitting at the kitchen table talking about union business just know we all think you are full of shit. If you made chief you would screw us over so fast. So mr funny just remember every day we see you we laughing at you not with you. Hahaha
All I hear is crickets. Still waiting for you to answer the questions that were posed directly to you. instead of answering you post the same childish gibberish over and over. I wonder why?
Bubba

Orland Park, IL

#41 Sep 7, 2013
I'd still think we should focus on the original topic.....Why can't this club be disbanded?
The posts here just prove that it needs to be absorbed into the Village of Orland Parks municiple government. No good reason it needs to be its own agency.

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