the nuns are just as guilty

the nuns are just as guilty

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Patty

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Apr 19, 2006
The thought of these kids being abused by these priests, just makes me sick. However, I was abused by a nun, smashing my head against a blackboard; because I didn't know my fractions. Why isn't anything being said about this type of abuse? This hurt physically and emtionally as well. I'm sure I'm not the only kid to suffer this type of abuse by the nuns. I'm not talking about how they would smack your hand, everyone had that done to them. What this nun did to me crossed that line. I was lucky I wasn't killed.
Laura

United States

#2 Apr 20, 2006
I feel your pain...went to Catolic school most of my life with similar experiences...but my question is, when did this happen to you? Corporal punishment a.k.a. abuse in Catholic schools (many private schools for that matter) was the norm back in the day. It was common and expected. When I was in eighth grade, Sister Suzanne waited for me to walk in the front door, only to drag me by my ear to the bathroom where she dunked my head in a filled sink and scrubbed my eye makeup off with a heavy hand. My whole face would be red and swollen by the time she was done. Thing is, I wasn't wearing any eye makeup...I just had very long and black eye lashes which contrasted my light hair and skin. It's just a good story now, and I laugh telling it. Was it abuse? Maybe, but I'm not scarred by it. I'm not sure you can equate sexual and deviant abuse by priests with abuse by the nuns...I think they're 2 different animals!
Patty

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Apr 20, 2006
Laura wrote:
I feel your pain...went to Catolic school most of my life with similar experiences...but my question is, when did this happen to you? Corporal punishment a.k.a. abuse in Catholic schools (many private schools for that matter) was the norm back in the day. It was common and expected. When I was in eighth grade, Sister Suzanne waited for me to walk in the front door, only to drag me by my ear to the bathroom where she dunked my head in a filled sink and scrubbed my eye makeup off with a heavy hand. My whole face would be red and swollen by the time she was done. Thing is, I wasn't wearing any eye makeup...I just had very long and black eye lashes which contrasted my light hair and skin. It's just a good story now, and I laugh telling it. Was it abuse? Maybe, but I'm not scarred by it. I'm not sure you can equate sexual and deviant abuse by priests with abuse by the nuns...I think they're 2 different animals!
I think abuse is abuse. If it were to happen today, she would be put in jail; where she belonged.
Marie

Manahawkin, NJ

#4 Apr 20, 2006
I also attended 12 years of Catholic school and had a couple of instances when a nun slapped me or kicked me for some infraction. Back in my day if you complained to your parents that a nun had hit you, they said "well you must have deserved it". You were lucky if you didn't get punished again at home for doing something that required a nun correct you.

There is a HUGE difference between the liberties a nun took, usually in front of people, and the dark and evil things done to the children sexually abused by the priests. The shame we experienced, which was intended I think, cannot compare to the violation these poor innocent victims felt and have had to live with. I am sorry if you are still haunted by the embarrasement you felt but do not think it holds a candle to the torment and pain the victims of sexual abuse have suffered.

The Catholic Church is guilty of gross misconduct and failed to address the issues when they were well aware of them. They failed to protect innocent children from evil. It's a disgrace that equals the inquisitions as far as I am concerned. May God forgive those who participated, for so many years, in hiding the truth and to this day fail to be held accountable or tell the truth.
Patty

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Apr 20, 2006
Marie wrote:
I also attended 12 years of Catholic school and had a couple of instances when a nun slapped me or kicked me for some infraction. Back in my day if you complained to your parents that a nun had hit you, they said "well you must have deserved it". You were lucky if you didn't get punished again at home for doing something that required a nun correct you.

There is a HUGE difference between the liberties a nun took, usually in front of people, and the dark and evil things done to the children sexually abused by the priests. The shame we experienced, which was intended I think, cannot compare to the violation these poor innocent victims felt and have had to live with. I am sorry if you are still haunted by the embarrasement you felt but do not think it holds a candle to the torment and pain the victims of sexual abuse have suffered.

The Catholic Church is guilty of gross misconduct and failed to address the issues when they were well aware of them. They failed to protect innocent children from evil. It's a disgrace that equals the inquisitions as far as I am concerned. May God forgive those who participated, for so many years, in hiding the truth and to this day fail to be held accountable or tell the truth.
This was also evil. I was lucky I do not have brain damage. It was so much more than just emtional abuse, she could have killed me. Abuse is still abuse. I was also an innocent child. I had nobody to protect me either. I just will never forgive her. I had other nuns who punished me for various reasons; but these just did not compare to the situation I described. She really crossed the line. If I could sue The Catholic Church for this, I would. I guess they are also off the hook for this as well. I hope she is burning in Hell.
Tom

North Chicago, IL

#6 Apr 17, 2007
In 3rd grade I had a nun slash me across the throat with the steel edge of a wooden ruler. I came home for lunch with an 8 inch long diaganol cut across my throat. Going to a Catholic grade school on Milwaukees south side was like being in a concentration camp 8 hours a day, 5 days a week from 1966 to 1974....
Patty

Exton, PA

#7 Jun 25, 2008
Marie wrote:
I also attended 12 years of Catholic school and had a couple of instances when a nun slapped me or kicked me for some infraction. Back in my day if you complained to your parents that a nun had hit you, they said "well you must have deserved it". You were lucky if you didn't get punished again at home for doing something that required a nun correct you.
There is a HUGE difference between the liberties a nun took, usually in front of people, and the dark and evil things done to the children sexually abused by the priests. The shame we experienced, which was intended I think, cannot compare to the violation these poor innocent victims felt and have had to live with. I am sorry if you are still haunted by the embarrasement you felt but do not think it holds a candle to the torment and pain the victims of sexual abuse have suffered.
The Catholic Church is guilty of gross misconduct and failed to address the issues when they were well aware of them. They failed to protect innocent children from evil. It's a disgrace that equals the inquisitions as far as I am concerned. May God forgive those who participated, for so many years, in hiding the truth and to this day fail to be held accountable or tell the truth.
Do you REALLY think it's O. K. for a NUN to SMASH a kids head against the blackboard, more than once I might add, is suitable punishment for not knowing a subject? I am now having a problem with one of my eyes; and the doctor thinks it could have been caused, by what this nun did to me. There is NEVER a good reason to hit a kid in the head. Today, she would have been put in jail. I hope she is burning in HELL, where she belongs.
Dee

Plymouth Meeting, PA

#8 Aug 21, 2008
Nuns were human beings some were friendly nice some jealous of any beauty in any girl they were some who were also abusive and evil. I was so terrified of them in first grade I urinated all over myself in the front of the room while being screamed at. I think it was about math but I was learning disabled so I was screamed at every day all day. That shame of being taught I was stupid stayed with me I didn't go to college because I was stupid. I didn't even get to Catholic high school because I was to stupid. If God was merciful some fool would marry me and take me home like a pet. Well I faced college myself at 30 and discovered I could learn as well as anyone if taught differently.

So I survived that I think we all just survived the evil ones. A nun who knew I was not being given enough food daily only lunch once offered me her dinner every day after school. However I had to clean the convent to have it. But still that kindness helped when I knew I would face 10 months every year of beatings, screaming, shame, humiliation and endurance became my best trait and still is.

Evil and abuse done in the name of God is the greatest sin I can think of.

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