Richland OKs development proposal

There are 20 comments on the The Morning Call story from Dec 11, 2007, titled Richland OKs development proposal. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Richland Township supervisors voted 2-1 in favor of an age-restricted development at their business meeting Monday night that would pave the way for a 402-unit facility.

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Eleanor Storck

Reading, PA

#1 Dec 11, 2007
We do need affordable housing,but unfortunately these developers only build expense units,
.We are now in Melody Lakes Park and paying double the rent then when we moved here 9 years ago.I feel this develovement will not be for local seniors .Please do not publish my opinion
gregg

Harrisburg, PA

#4 Dec 11, 2007
OH HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH RICK ORLOFF, GEE LET'S KEEP BUILDING, THAT MEANS MORE MONEY FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Feb 07

Chesterfield, MO

#5 Dec 11, 2007
Keep packin in these new developments!
DIDJANOTICE

AOL

#6 Dec 11, 2007
gregg wrote:
OH HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH RICK ORLOFF, GEE LET'S KEEP BUILDING, THAT MEANS MORE MONEY FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!
Well, well it seems now that only 1 person in each unit HAS to be 55, this was supposed to be an age restricted complex. When did that rule change ?? Now 4 people mummy, daddy and SCHOOL AGE children will be living there. Or, grammy, pappy and those damn kids that the parents didn't want to raise or for whatever other reasons that the grandparents are raising their grandchildren.

I smell a rat, this was never discussed in the initial process. This was age restricted period when presented.

Screwed again by RT and W himself....bend over some more you lazy voters.

Please note that they approved this before O left office. If Murphy and Zownirow were in, this would not have passed.

Age restricted my horses A$$.

There are many people raising children at 55 and whose to say that a couple with one child brings grammy in to live with them. Dchool taxes, up , up , up by many units that will now have kids, they said no kids, they lied. Again, they lied and again WE pay.
Chas Quakertown

Mechanicsburg, PA

#7 Dec 11, 2007
Richard Orloff and Richard Woldow. Connect the dots.
From whom did the developers purchase this previously landlocked parcel that Orloff and Friends made valuable by extending RR Drive?

Next, the Q*Mart will be torn down and another shopping complex will be developed at that site.
Elise

AOL

#8 Dec 11, 2007
If DJN above is correct, this is a travesty. I don't know the specifics on the original zoning, but it does seem we have be bamboozzled. Although 55+ is common in our area and is the usual terminology, a condo/apartment that specifies only one person may be 55 in a 4 person unit does smack of possible misuse. Does it specify NO school age children in the the contracts, I was under the assumption there was a 20 year old clause somewhere in the paperwork. I have not read all articles in depth. This complex was not to impact our schools. What is the connotation about O leaving office...is he running for Clymers spot?? Since he was re-elected there would be no haste to approve this complex, it has been dragging on and on for several years, with time extensions. But it seems that almost every project is being pushed through quickly.
so what

Northampton, PA

#9 Dec 11, 2007
I am excited about new devolpment. We are a local family who is employed by construction companys. I also think that smarta$$ comment about knocking down the Qmart is a great idea. We could use more places to shop. With the new Richland Target we are finally starting to get convinence in our lives. I shopped local this holiday not one trip to a Mall. It is a beautiful thing.
We does everyone around here hate devolpment so much?
Open Mind

Roseland, NJ

#10 Dec 11, 2007
DJN and Elise are the same person, or same Murphy loving groupies

Since: Feb 07

Chesterfield, MO

#12 Dec 11, 2007
so what wrote:
I am excited about new devolpment. We are a local family who is employed by construction companys. I also think that smarta$$ comment about knocking down the Qmart is a great idea. We could use more places to shop. With the new Richland Target we are finally starting to get convinence in our lives. I shopped local this holiday not one trip to a Mall. It is a beautiful thing.
We does everyone around here hate devolpment so much?
What can you get at Target that you can't buy at Kmart, Walmart, Kohls? It's absurd to crowd Quakertown with all these stores and homes. And you think shopping at Target is 'shopping local'? Shop the businesses in Downtown Quakertown if you want to shop local, not put money in the hands of a corporation. Oh, and once they can't build anymore and you lose your construction job, you'll need Target for employment.
Mat Man

West Chester, PA

#13 Dec 11, 2007
Is anyone else appalled at the sheer magnitude of this development?? I think 100 units is a large development for this area not to mention a development four times that size. Iím not anti-development. I believe development is growth and growth is normal when balanced against its surroundings. Abnormally fast paced growth is often called cancer in the human body. I submit that a 400 unit development is just that in this community. A Cancer.
RU Kidding

Trenton, NJ

#14 Dec 11, 2007
so what wrote:
I am excited about new devolpment. We are a local family who is employed by construction companys. I also think that smarta$$ comment about knocking down the Qmart is a great idea. We could use more places to shop. With the new Richland Target we are finally starting to get convinence in our lives. I shopped local this holiday not one trip to a Mall. It is a beautiful thing.
We does everyone around here hate devolpment so much?
Traffic, tax increases, pollution, tax increases, overcrowding, tax increases, crime, tax increases...need I go on?
Mat Man

West Chester, PA

#15 Dec 11, 2007
Haywood, did my last comment cross a line?
so what

Northampton, PA

#17 Dec 11, 2007
Not kidding. But I grow up in KOP. I guess we just have a different mentality.
I do not like Kmart or Walmart . I cause more pollution by driving to Montgomeryville.
Believe me I have tried to shop downtown and with the exception of restaurants it is pointless. They do not have anything of value and the stores that do have such an overhead that in order to make money it has to be marked up to high.
Guys this is not a rural area anymore face it.
As for needing a job at Target think again. All aspects of costruction are important. It all trickles down. No construction work = No new or renevated houses = a bad real estate market.Do you live in a house? Work in a building? Where did you buy the clothes you are wearing. Be honest
Rotting in Richland

Sellersville, PA

#18 Dec 11, 2007
Mat Man wrote:
Is anyone else appalled at the sheer magnitude of this development?? I think 100 units is a large development for this area not to mention a development four times that size. Iím not anti-development. I believe development is growth and growth is normal when balanced against its surroundings. Abnormally fast paced growth is often called cancer in the human body. I submit that a 400 unit development is just that in this community. A Cancer.
You are correct. Besides the traffic and now the possibility of more kids in the schools, the other situation that has been forgotten is the existing problem of flooding in Spring Meadow, right next door.

Some residents went to a planning commission meeting a few months back and brought up this situation. It already floods out during heavy rainfalls. With this property being covered by 13 buildings and an 800 space parking lot, the water has to run off somewhere...probably right into Spring Meadow next door.

Maybe they should think about renaming Spring Meadow to New Venice? Hey! Orloff can create new, unique jobs in Richland...Gondoliers!
Bucks County Resident

Temple, PA

#20 Dec 11, 2007
so what wrote:
I am excited about new devolpment. We are a local family who is employed by construction companys. I also think that smarta$$ comment about knocking down the Qmart is a great idea. We could use more places to shop. With the new Richland Target we are finally starting to get convinence in our lives. I shopped local this holiday not one trip to a Mall. It is a beautiful thing.
We does everyone around here hate devolpment so much?
The THP's and Toll Brothers of the region "build and run" without paying any impact fees to the local school district for all the additional classrooms and teachers kids in non-age restricted developments will require.

All non-developers end up paying escalating QCSD taxes while your "devolpment companys" make a quick buck on $400,000+ beige vinyl-covered OSB boxes.

And I live in a nearly 50 year-old house within Quakertown Borough and I don't have children so I am neither contributing to the paving over of rural areas out in the townships or to the cost of running the local schools.
Bucks County Resident

Temple, PA

#21 Dec 11, 2007
so what wrote:
Not kidding. But I grow up in KOP. I guess we just have a different mentality.
I do not like Kmart or Walmart . I cause more pollution by driving to Montgomeryville.
Believe me I have tried to shop downtown and with the exception of restaurants it is pointless. They do not have anything of value and the stores that do have such an overhead that in order to make money it has to be marked up to high.
Guys this is not a rural area anymore face it.
As for needing a job at Target think again. All aspects of costruction are important. It all trickles down. No construction work = No new or renevated houses = a bad real estate market.Do you live in a house? Work in a building? Where did you buy the clothes you are wearing. Be honest
Ummm, if I wanted to live in a KOP-like area, I would move there. Why don't you still live in the KOP area? Too much congestion? Real estate prices too high? Why make the Q-town area that congested if we have other alternatives?

Do we really need Route 309 to look like Whitehall's Macarthur Road from south of Tollgate Rd. all the way to Coopersburg? If an unexpanded 4-lane 309 bogs down in traffic due to all that commercial development drivers avoiding traffic will seek out Allentown Rd., Old Beth Pike, Richlandtown Pike, California Rd., etc. which go through more residential areas. Once you fill those areas with big developments generating even more traffic, there will be gridlock.

Who needs that?
Mat Man

West Chester, PA

#22 Dec 11, 2007
Haywood Javote wrote:
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If you crossed a line, it was a good one to cross. I agree with you... this project is way out of scale with our area, especially when coupled with the strip mall that comes along with it.
Must have been a glitch. At first my comment was posted, then it wasn't,(hence my question about crossing a line) and now it's back again. Thanks Haywood. Keep up the good work.
so what

Northampton, PA

#23 Dec 11, 2007
I live here because I met a man fell in love and he was from the area. I live in the borough in a house that is over 125 years old. What are our other options. Do not grow ? Become economically stagnet? Real Estate devolpment is a huge part of our ecomomy.
309 is a highway most highways are devolped. Whenever a bypass is suggested people opose it and freak out. I see plenty of farmland and open space in this area.
We are not a quaint little rural town anymore
Marie

Hillsborough, NJ

#24 Dec 11, 2007
DIDJANOTICE wrote:
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Well, well it seems now that only 1 person in each unit HAS to be 55, this was supposed to be an age restricted complex. When did that rule change ?? Now 4 people mummy, daddy and SCHOOL AGE children will be living there. Or, grammy, pappy and those damn kids that the parents didn't want to raise or for whatever other reasons that the grandparents are raising their grandchildren.
I smell a rat, this was never discussed in the initial process. This was age restricted period when presented.
Screwed again by RT and W himself....bend over some more you lazy voters.
Please note that they approved this before O left office. If Murphy and Zownirow were in, this would not have passed.
Age restricted my horses A$$.
There are many people raising children at 55 and whose to say that a couple with one child brings grammy in to live with them. Dchool taxes, up , up , up by many units that will now have kids, they said no kids, they lied. Again, they lied and again WE pay.
You know better. Fearmongering and spreading lies and impossible scenarios is behavior that is not in the best interest of the community. If you are unable to offer constructive criticism pleasefind another cause.

Minimum age of one person :55. Minimim age of any others in each unit: 19. The only school aged inhabitants would be college students. Inhabitants would pay school taxes without adding any students to the school rolls.
hmmm

AOL

#25 Dec 11, 2007
Mat Man wrote:
<quoted text>
Must have been a glitch. At first my comment was posted, then it wasn't,(hence my question about crossing a line) and now it's back again. Thanks Haywood. Keep up the good work.
must be a couple of glitches. i went to respond to someone elses comment earlier & it disappeared before i could. still hasn't returned.

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