Man Charged with Groping Girls at Wal...

Man Charged with Groping Girls at Wal-Mart

There are 50 comments on the WJW Fox 8 Cleveland story from Aug 25, 2010, titled Man Charged with Groping Girls at Wal-Mart. In it, WJW Fox 8 Cleveland reports that:

A 49-year-old Mentor man has been charged for allegedly groping two pre-teen girls at a local Wal-Mart, Fox 8 News reports.

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jbd612

AOL

#41 Aug 25, 2010
pictures don't lie.. the story said they have the guy on video camera.....and if you can't keep track of your kid's then don't take them there.

I am not blaming anyone just sayin I have seen first hand in many stores small children are often left unsupervised in carts, in aisles, in storage room bathrooms, in every dept. in the store..and we have no clue how many molestors are there waiting to pounce.

Since: May 10

Cleveland, OH

#42 Aug 26, 2010
Unfortunately he won't spend much time in jail for this crime. Our judicial system is way to lenient, even for crimes like this one. The courts will give him maybe a year or two then make him register has a sex offender. Don't worry folks, he'll be out in no time right back at Wal-mart with a bulge in his pants.
moneylady

Wheeling, WV

#43 Aug 26, 2010
How sad that with four FBI background checks he managed to slip through the cracks and get close to kids. Kudos to the girls for being calm enough to give details. Hope they nail his sorry butt to the wall.
DanielB

Baltimore, MD

#44 Aug 26, 2010
Former Mentor Resident wrote:
The city's motto "It's Better in Mentor" really only applies to the pedophiles, drug dealers and section 8 recipients of the city.
Former Mentor Resident, I see the point of your post however, what exactly do you have against section 8 residents? I dont see how a person needing government assistance can be grouped in with pedo's and drug dealers? please explain this to me.
DanielB

Baltimore, MD

#45 Aug 26, 2010
papadork wrote:
Unfortunately he won't spend much time in jail for this crime. Our judicial system is way to lenient, even for crimes like this one. The courts will give him maybe a year or two then make him register has a sex offender. Don't worry folks, he'll be out in no time right back at Wal-mart with a bulge in his pants.
Papadork, I just wanted to mention that the offense committed is a Third Degree Felony which he should have a mandatory 1year min in prison. I know this may sound very short, however, even if he received a 10 year term, do you think it would make a difference. I have to be honest and tell you that prison does not work for sexual offenders. The nature of these types of offenses is psychological and it results from, in many cases, being a victim of the same type of abuse. If the state really wants to address these issues, number one, first and foremeost we need to address treating victims correctly. After that treating the offenders needs to happen as well. Many people say that these people need prison and thats not true. Now notice that I said they dont need prison, I didn not say that they didnt need to be locked in a secure facility. See the problem here is that the offenders treatment may take years, sometimes decades for the tx to be effective, however the state does not want to expand resources on this approach because elected officials who want to stay in office do what the general public want to do. The general public is not looking at these crimes as a medical issue but a criminal issue. If we really want to help rid society of these types of crimes, we as American people need to be educated on the subject and then take the necessary steps to fix the problem. What say you sir.
DanielB

Baltimore, MD

#46 Aug 26, 2010
moneylady wrote:
How sad that with four FBI background checks he managed to slip through the cracks and get close to kids. Kudos to the girls for being calm enough to give details. Hope they nail his sorry butt to the wall.
Money lady, he didnt slip through the crack, he was never convicted of an offense that would diqualify him from state employment. Sometimes, even with background checks a person is a sexual offender but they just havent gotten caught and until they do get caught, they will retain the ability to get jobs around children. You can blame the school here because they did everything they were required to do. This guy was just beginning his career as a sexual predator. I will say that leaving a 7yo girl and 10yo girl unattended in a store was not a wise idea. I remember when I was a child, i was going to the corner store for my mom or dad on my bike by myself, Im 31 yo and when I was 10yo, these types of crimes were not a prevelant as they are today. you could, for the most part, trust your neighbors, let us kids in the neighborhood play with eachother until the street lights come on. I as a father of a ten yo and 5 yo will not allow my children to go anywhere without myself or my wife present. When my children have field trips, either myself or my wife volunteer to go and help. We like to do this because we get to help out the school but we also know what our kids are doing. I work in criminal justice so I know the dangers and exactly how these things happen. I dont allow my 10yo to go over to other childrens homes unless I have met the parents and have formed a bond with them to the point where I feel secure that my child is in good hands. You see we cant watch out kids 24/7, thats not realisitic, but taking an approach that may require going the extra mile to supervise our kids is woth its weight in gold. I would rather take extra precautions, or maybe miss a day of work for a field trip or take the time to see who my children are with rather than being that parent crying on the nwes and asking why did this happen.

Since: May 10

Cleveland, OH

#47 Aug 26, 2010
DanielB wrote:
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Former Mentor Resident, I see the point of your post however, what exactly do you have against section 8 residents? I dont see how a person needing government assistance can be grouped in with pedo's and drug dealers? please explain this to me.
Uh....ok.
Bawana

Rock Creek, OH

#48 Aug 26, 2010
TMC wrote:
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what she look like and how old she be?
probly lookie like her dady an lookie like a Dawg...
he dont say were she be.
DanielB

Baltimore, MD

#49 Aug 26, 2010
Innocent wrote:
"Innocent Until Proven Guilty"
Before anyone writes in their newspaper or broadcasts anything again about this man.. I say get the facts.
Walmart has a video of this man in the store at the same time.
Is that a crime? NO
Did anyone print this man was arrested the next morning after the incident? NO
It wasn't printed or broadcasted that Mentor Police told this man he was being arrested for bumping into a girl at a crowded Walmart store.
I am appauld at so many vicious comments written by people so quick to judge because of the trash newspapers and broadcasting not having the facts.
By printing this man's photo and address in the News Herald and broadcasting on Fox 8 cannot justify the pain he will suffer the rest of his life for being innocent.
And the father who wrote down this man's license plate. C'mon - If your child is being endangered by someone, don't you call security or 911? And the mother of the girl never so anything happen - so where was this mother when her child was being swayed (not gropping) as written as a headline of a reporter searching for a story.
And to channel 8 - I say one more time. Get all the facts before you speak - this man didn't live in his grandmother's trailer.
And to the writer of the story in the News Herald - I have to ask myself how his superiors believed it to be legal to print this man's address. Unheard of when an innocent man isn't guilty until proven by the law.
Innocent, I am understand that in our system, a person is innocent until proven guilty, in that regard you are correct, people should not be saying that this guy is guilty, because hes not until a Judge or Jury adjudges him as such. However, i do take issue with some of your comments. I think that the father did the right thing by getting this mans plate number. If you look at this realisitically if this guy waited for 911 to get there the guy would have been gone and nobody would have caught him. I applaud the father, he did good. This guy is not "innocent" in the sense that he didnt do anything, he is caught on camera doing this, the police had enough evidence to charge him. Ity almost sounds like your making excuses for this guy.
marc

Idaho Falls, ID

#50 Aug 26, 2010
Yep. There's a suspicion of something happening. I think we should just get a crowd together and lynch him. Why would we want to wait for anything like facts? They just get in the way. Read the headline and make your opinion -- much faster that way. Saves the cost of police investigation and the court system. I don't know if he did it or not. I will freely admit my ignorance in this matter. Pity that others can't.

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