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commom sense

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Jan 18, 2013
 
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The killers were Muslim radicals who used box cutters to cut the throat on an airplane pilot. He then use the plane to kill all the passengers and people in the World Trade Center. Box cutters, fists, knives, baseball bats, garden hoes, etc are used to kill a few people. Assault rifles and large magazines can be used to cause mass murder. Assualt rifles and large magazines should be banned. When they are banned anyone owning one will stop being a law abiding citizen. Laws restrict us in numerous ways. For instance, there are automobile speed limits. Your freedom of speech is tempered by safety. No civilized society can have complete freedom as explained by the old saying "your freedom ends where my nose begins." The common good indicates that gun violance is huge and growning in the U.S. and needs to be curbed. The lives of 20 first graders and countless people who have died from guns dictate that gun control is a must.
So please explain how banning the assault rifle will help prevent murders. Give statistics and facts. Not just your emotions of what happened in CT.
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So please explain how banning the assault rifle will help prevent murders. Give statistics and facts. Not just your emotions of what happened in CT.
The most simple fact is this: Banning assualt rifles will keep most of them out of the hands of killers. In the case of Sandy Hook, had the killer's mother not been able to buy the gun legally, the killer would not have had the gun. By making those who own guns register those guns we would be able to make those who own them now be responsible for crime committed with them.

Much has been written about the second ammendment. Some have thought that the original intent of this ammendment was related to a state run military agency such as the national guard. The Supreme Court has spoken more than once on this issue. In District of Columbia vs Heller the U.S.Supreme court ruled that the ammendment gives Americans the right to individually bear arms. This decision does indicate that it is permissible to pass laws such as concealed/carry and that IT IS PERMISSIABLE TO BAN CERTAIN TYPES OF GUNS.
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Jan 18, 2013
 
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The most simple fact is this: Banning assualt rifles will keep most of them out of the hands of killers. In the case of Sandy Hook, had the killer's mother not been able to buy the gun legally, the killer would not have had the gun. By making those who own guns register those guns we would be able to make those who own them now be responsible for crime committed with them.
Much has been written about the second ammendment. Some have thought that the original intent of this ammendment was related to a state run military agency such as the national guard. The Supreme Court has spoken more than once on this issue. In District of Columbia vs Heller the U.S.Supreme court ruled that the ammendment gives Americans the right to individually bear arms. This decision does indicate that it is permissible to pass laws such as concealed/carry and that IT IS PERMISSIABLE TO BAN CERTAIN TYPES OF GUNS.
Your first line is not a fact. It is an opinion.
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Jan 18, 2013
 
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Your first line is not a fact. It is an opinion.
How can you say that? Let us say that the Flu is a major illness through out Mercer County. If people have the flu stay home there is likely to be less flu spread to those who do not have it.

The fewer assualt rifles in circulation the less chance someone will have to get one and kill. It does not take a mental giant to see that simple truth.
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The fewer assualt rifles in circulation the less chance someone will have to get one and kill. It does not take a mental giant to see that simple truth.
It is easier to kill someone with a gun, but banning assault rifles will not stop bad people from killing, especially since the majority of shooting deaths in America come from pistols and buckshot. Not to mention that our government appears to be involved in the Sandy Hook massacre. Without a doubt, there were more than one shooters.
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It is easier to kill someone with a gun, but banning assault rifles will not stop bad people from killing, especially since the majority of shooting deaths in America come from pistols and buckshot. Not to mention that our government appears to be involved in the Sandy Hook massacre. Without a doubt, there were more than one shooters.
Crazy: So the government helped kill those kids and there were more than one shooter. I can see where your forum name comes from.

Of course bad people will kill. Assault weapons kill more. If buckshot and pistols were as dangerous as assault rifles then why does the military issue assualt rifles to soldiers. By your logic the U.S. could save a boat load of money by giving shotguns and pistols to soldiers. Or maybe, they could just give them box cutters and knives. Or, why arm them at all? Let them fight with bare hands.

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Jan 19, 2013
 
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Crazy: So the government helped kill those kids and there were more than one shooter. I can see where your forum name comes from.
Of course bad people will kill. Assault weapons kill more. If buckshot and pistols were as dangerous as assault rifles then why does the military issue assualt rifles to soldiers. By your logic the U.S. could save a boat load of money by giving shotguns and pistols to soldiers. Or maybe, they could just give them box cutters and knives. Or, why arm them at all? Let them fight with bare hands.
Give them cars with a hammer in the front seat in case they have to get out.
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The most simple fact is this: Banning assualt rifles will keep most of them out of the hands of killers. In the case of Sandy Hook, had the killer's mother not been able to buy the gun legally, the killer would not have had the gun. By making those who own guns register those guns we would be able to make those who own them now be responsible for crime committed with them.
Much has been written about the second ammendment. Some have thought that the original intent of this ammendment was related to a state run military agency such as the national guard. The Supreme Court has spoken more than once on this issue. In District of Columbia vs Heller the U.S.Supreme court ruled that the ammendment gives Americans the right to individually bear arms. This decision does indicate that it is permissible to pass laws such as concealed/carry and that IT IS PERMISSIABLE TO BAN CERTAIN TYPES OF GUNS.
You really believe a ban would work dont you. And you really believe that gun owners should register their guns so they can be held responsible for a crime committed with that weapon if it were stolen. What would you charge them with. And like I said before you must also believe that if I steal your car and commit a crime you should be held responsible.

Bans do not work. Plain and simple.

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#93
Jan 19, 2013
 
I believe what you both should research is called doctrine of proximate cause.
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The whole gun thing is a perfect illustration of liberal thinkin. Their logic is based off of lack of information and emotion. The thing they don't understand is that they are being played like a fiddle as usual, and they will happily give all their liberties away for a sense of security.
Green Hornet

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Jan 20, 2013
 
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You really believe a ban would work dont you. And you really believe that gun owners should register their guns so they can be held responsible for a crime committed with that weapon if it were stolen. What would you charge them with. And like I said before you must also believe that if I steal your car and commit a crime you should be held responsible.
Bans do not work. Plain and simple.
Will a ban on assualt rifles and large magazines work completely? No, but it would help. Here is an example of how: The flu is upon the country. Some of us took flu shots. Will that keep us away from the epidemic that we now have? No, but millions of us won't get the illness which will cause less of us to infect others. You get the picture.

These things will work if our legislatures have the guts to act:
1. Ban assualt rifles and large magazines.
2. Require all guns be registered. If your gun is stolen, report and you won't have to answer for it.
3. Require that guns be secured. Locked up or a trigger guard would suffice. No body will come into your home and make sure of this, that will be up to you, but the gun owner will be expected to explain how his gun got in the hands of a criminal if that happened.
4. Establish strict and certain years of prison confindment for people who use guns in crime and the death penality when a gun is used in a murder.
5. Establish a buy out across the country and destroy all guns collected by law enforcement officals.

None of these would take away rifles, shotguns, or pistols from law abiding people.
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Jan 20, 2013
 
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Crazy: So the government helped kill those kids and there were more than one shooter. I can see where your forum name comes from.
Yes, our government has a history of destroying or killing kids. BTW, you have access to a certain amount of declassified CIA documents should you entertain the thought of reading past CNN or FOX. Also, there are inconsistencies in the ever-changing Sandy Hook shooting which seem to prove more than one person was in on it.

http://www.foia.cia.gov/
Green Hornet wrote:
Of course bad people will kill. Assault weapons kill more. If buckshot and pistols were as dangerous as assault rifles then why does the military issue assualt rifles to soldiers. By your logic the U.S. could save a boat load of money by giving shotguns and pistols to soldiers. Or maybe, they could just give them box cutters and knives. Or, why arm them at all? Let them fight with bare hands.
Since a majority of American citizens do not own assault rifles, one can conclude that the majority of shooting deaths in America do not come from assault rifles. And btw, I agree that assault weapons are more dangerous than pistols and shotguns; I never said otherwise.
Green Hornet

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#97
Jan 23, 2013
 
Just read a novel where he CIA arranged to have a number of U.S. citizens killed in order to cover up a terrorist who was willing to provide information if the CIA created a new persona for him and supported him financially for life. IT WAS FICTION. This country does not kill U.S. kids and blame it on a crazed youth.
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Just read a novel where he CIA arranged to have a number of U.S. citizens killed in order to cover up a terrorist who was willing to provide information if the CIA created a new persona for him and supported him financially for life. IT WAS FICTION. This country does not kill U.S. kids and blame it on a crazed youth.
This government kills whoever it needs to kill in order to fulfill whatever plans they have. The video below shows official congressional testimony including footage of the actual weapon the CIA used to MURDER people back in 1975. It was referred to as a "heart attack gun". This black pistol shoots a frozen dart of shellfish poison and leaves a small red dot, which is sometimes not even felt. The poison melts inside the body and mimics a lethal heart attack while dissipating before an autopsy is performed. The autopsy will find no poison and will rule the death natural. http://www.youtube.com/watch...

If you really want to find out what has been going on for decades
then search this link. There are all types of legit CIA declassified documents to look at. Open your mind and break the mental barriers our propagandized media outlets enslave you with.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/

Dude, the things I am telling you are on the level. Do the research and you will find out I am not lying.
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why you are at it banning guns why not cars , trucks , ball bats , knifes , pens , steal pipes , 2x4 , 2x2 and on and on so the america ppl will be a setting target for the fornigner to take over that's what our silly as- america wants not me know one and i said knowone will get my guns bet on come and try but you better bring enough of scumbag when you do and not some of the pistol packing hot heads that think they know what to do ,,,,,,,, been there and help to fight the best and won so what do you say ,,,don't want to here from you little smart as- punky kids either that is still in diaper either .
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jug head wrote:
why you are at it banning guns why not cars , trucks , ball bats , knifes , pens , steal pipes , 2x4 , 2x2 and on and on so the america ppl will be a setting target for the fornigner to take over that's what our silly as- america wants not me know one and i said knowone will get my guns bet on come and try but you better bring enough of scumbag when you do and not some of the pistol packing hot heads that think they know what to do ,,,,,,,, been there and help to fight the best and won so what do you say ,,,don't want to here from you little smart as- punky kids either that is still in diaper either .
Poor Jug Head. Can't figure which one of the Three Stooges he is.
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Jan 24, 2013
 
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Poor Jug Head. Can't figure which one of the Three Stooges he is.
I see that Jug Head is as dumb as ever. I think that he is more like Shemp.
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#102
Jan 24, 2013
 
Jug Head may not be very smart, but he sure can give us a lot of laughts.

I think that he would like to be Moe, but just is not up to it. Curley is more like Jug.
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#103
Jan 24, 2013
 
Why are we talking about poor old dumb Jug Head and guns. My father says that we have enough money and influence to buy whatever we want and if I want an assualt rifle I can have one.

Why are we not talking about something really important such as whether Beyonce lip synced.

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