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Greeen Hornet

Harrodsburg, KY

#1 Dec 24, 2012
Twenty kids killed at Sandy Hook. Local kids play with gun, it misfires and a teen aged boy is dead. Fire fighters answer call to a fire and four are shot and two die. It is time to make an efford to putting a stop to the carnage. Do our national lawmakers have the guts to do something. Do the citizens of the US have the common sense to give up or at least limit the use of guns?
Robin Hood

Richmond, KY

#2 Dec 25, 2012
If u take guns away from all the people that obey our laws.The crimals will still get guns somehow.They will steal them or get them illegal .
Green Hornet

Harrodsburg, KY

#3 Dec 26, 2012
Robin Hood wrote:
If u take guns away from all the people that obey our laws.The crimals will still get guns somehow.They will steal them or get them illegal .
Robin Hood used a bow and arrow. I doubt that he could shoot a bow and arrow as fast or as deadly as the two nuts who have used the same type weapon to kill little children and volunteer firefighters. Yes, the crooks will get guns. How about a law which would make a crime committed with a gun more serious and deserving of a longer prison time? People should have the right to have rifles and shotguns to either hunt or for home protection. Handguns are designed to kill. They should be registered and it should be a crime for a registered hand gun owner to allow his weapon to be used in a crime. Assualt rifles should not be allowed in this country.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#4 Dec 26, 2012
Green Hornet wrote:
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Robin Hood used a bow and arrow. I doubt that he could shoot a bow and arrow as fast or as deadly as the two nuts who have used the same type weapon to kill little children and volunteer firefighters. Yes, the crooks will get guns. How about a law which would make a crime committed with a gun more serious and deserving of a longer prison time? People should have the right to have rifles and shotguns to either hunt or for home protection. Handguns are designed to kill. They should be registered and it should be a crime for a registered hand gun owner to allow his weapon to be used in a crime. Assualt rifles should not be allowed in this country.
Whereas most of these people shoot themselves in the head before they can be arrested, tougher penalties would amount to less than nothing.
Green Hornet

Harrodsburg, KY

#5 Dec 26, 2012
One True Digger wrote:
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Whereas most of these people shoot themselves in the head before they can be arrested, tougher penalties would amount to less than nothing.
As usual you are wrong. Suppose a criminal kills in a bank robbery. Would he be as likely to kill if he knew that such a crime committed WITH a gun would be an automatic death sentence? Suppose you or I had a collection of pistols, rifles and shotguns as the law allows us to have. Suppose there was a law that demanded that such guns be kept under lock and key. Would we be as likely to allow those guns to fall in the hands of a nut who would go out and kill?

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#6 Dec 26, 2012
Green Hornet wrote:
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As usual you are wrong. Suppose a criminal kills in a bank robbery. Would he be as likely to kill if he knew that such a crime committed WITH a gun would be an automatic death sentence? Suppose you or I had a collection of pistols, rifles and shotguns as the law allows us to have. Suppose there was a law that demanded that such guns be kept under lock and key. Would we be as likely to allow those guns to fall in the hands of a nut who would go out and kill?
Under Kentucky law, killing someone during a robbery already qualifies for the death penalty. Gun or not.

As far as lock and key. Keep in mind that most people who have done these horrible things acquired their guns legally. In the case of Adam Lanza, it's a little bit of both. Technically he didn't own the guns, but his stupid mother let him play with them and taught him how to shoot. In his case, it probably wouldn't have made a difference because he assuredly knew where she kept the key.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#7 Dec 26, 2012
And where have I ever been wrong, you smart mouthed bastard.
marty

United States

#8 Dec 26, 2012
Airplane,flys into two buildings kills thousands,car crosses center line hits van head on kills family of 15,meth lab blows kills a family of 5,three where kids lets ban everything,one nut with a gun decides to kill,bban auto.weapons,won,t mount to much,if a nut decides to kill he,ll find a way to do it,the rifle was just a handy tool,if he didn,t have it he would have thought of and found something else,we have strict gun laws in place now,some don,t work because the one,s who are supposed to enforce them and screw things up,while doing it,a man with a long criminal background was allowed to buy a rifle background check didn,t show up or the police screwed up and he got through,went out and commited more crimes.can,t blame the the tool,blame the nut who knew how to use that tool,more prisons,stiffer penalty,s,death row inmates sentence,s carried out in a timely manner,don,t wait until he,s 70,and about to die anyway, put them down right after their sentence. And make example,s of them and a lot of this shit will stop.

“Die Mensch Maschine”

Since: Apr 09

Harrodsburg, KY

#9 Dec 26, 2012
I think it's high time for my southern brethren to wake the hell up. Our government has been trying to disarm us for decades through various U.N. programs and the such, but we are a resilient people and we love our Constitution.

And for those that don't know, our government has also employed false-flag techniques against us many times. You can even read about false-flag events on Wikipedia for crying out loud:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northw...

"Operation Northwoods was a series of FALSE-FLAG proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962, but were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2] The proposals called for the CIA or other operatives, to commit perceived acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro.[3] One part of Operation Northwoods was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.

Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:

The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."

I'm fairly certain that our government was also behind some of the school shootings since they (CIA) have admitted, via declassified documentation, to have successfully created Manchurian Candidates, etc. Yes, our government is truly evil and they will find a way to prohibit firearms in America regardless of mass shootings and what not.
jug head

Danville, KY

#10 Dec 26, 2012
One True Digger wrote:
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Under Kentucky law, killing someone during a robbery already qualifies for the death penalty. Gun or not.
As far as lock and key. Keep in mind that most people who have done these horrible things acquired their guns legally. In the case of Adam Lanza, it's a little bit of both. Technically he didn't own the guns, but his stupid mother let him play with them and taught him how to shoot. In his case, it probably wouldn't have made a difference because he assuredly knew where she kept the key.
do you dumbas-!!!! think his mother would have taught him to use they if she new this would happen get a life you stupid as- as-hole jerk-off .
munum

Pittsburgh, PA

#11 Dec 26, 2012
youtube.com/watch...
No Ban happening
Green Hornet

Harrodsburg, KY

#12 Dec 26, 2012
One True Digger wrote:
And where have I ever been wrong, you smart mouthed bastard.
I explained so simple that even you should have understood. I'll try to make it simpler. Now read carefully.

A law is passed which says that if a person uses a gun in a certain crime he will serve X number of years with no parole. That would make most, but not all criminals think twice before using a gun to do that crime.
Green Hornet

Harrodsburg, KY

#13 Dec 26, 2012
One True Digger wrote:
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Under Kentucky law, killing someone during a robbery already qualifies for the death penalty. Gun or not.
As far as lock and key. Keep in mind that most people who have done these horrible things acquired their guns legally. In the case of Adam Lanza, it's a little bit of both. Technically he didn't own the guns, but his stupid mother let him play with them and taught him how to shoot. In his case, it probably wouldn't have made a difference because he assuredly knew where she kept the key.
Of course his mother made a serious mistake. According to news reports the young man was not stable. His mother should have though twice about bringing guns into that home and she should have kept the guns locked up and she should have secured the key. She did not and she died. My point is this: Locked guns are safe guns. Make it a crime if a person does not secure his guns and one of them is used to kill or rob.
Green Hornet

Harrodsburg, KY

#14 Dec 26, 2012
Microcosmic Man wrote:
I think it's high time for my southern brethren to wake the hell up. Our government has been trying to disarm us for decades through various U.N. programs and the such, but we are a resilient people and we love our Constitution.
And for those that don't know, our government has also employed false-flag techniques against us many times. You can even read about false-flag events on Wikipedia for crying out loud:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northw...
"Operation Northwoods was a series of FALSE-FLAG proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962, but were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2] The proposals called for the CIA or other operatives, to commit perceived acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro.[3] One part of Operation Northwoods was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.
Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:
The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."
I'm fairly certain that our government was also behind some of the school shootings since they (CIA) have admitted, via declassified documentation, to have successfully created Manchurian Candidates, etc. Yes, our government is truly evil and they will find a way to prohibit firearms in America regardless of mass shootings and what not.
What a bunch of bull. So the CIA kills school children? Do you believe in the Easter Bunny too?
My thought

Somerset, KY

#15 Dec 27, 2012
There are less people dying at the hands of guns than car wrecks!! Have we banned cars?? What about the drunk drivers that get behind the wheels of cars and kill innocent people?? Why are we not looking for stiffer penalties or some law for these actions. It isn't less painful for these people as it is for those in Conn.
The majority of these people who commit these crimes have a criminal record, the government has let them out.
Let's face it, drugs are illegal but they are worse than ever. The same thing will happen in a gun ban. Crooks will make them, steal them, boot leg them, etc. Those that don't need them will still have them and then those who would need them for protection when the scumbag is pointing a gun at them, will not have them. This law will only hurt Law abiding citizens.

Oh and by the way, have any of you visited a jail lately??? TV's, basketball courts, smoke areas, etc. Good grief, life should be made heck in the jail. People should despise it there.
peaches

Chicago, IL

#17 Dec 27, 2012
The most commonly used murder weapon in the US is the baseball bat. Let's ban them.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#18 Dec 27, 2012
peaches wrote:
The most commonly used murder weapon in the US is the baseball bat. Let's ban them.
False. A baseball bat isn't even listed. Fails.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#19 Dec 27, 2012
Green Hornet wrote:
<quoted text>
I explained so simple that even you should have understood. I'll try to make it simpler. Now read carefully.
A law is passed which says that if a person uses a gun in a certain crime he will serve X number of years with no parole. That would make most, but not all criminals think twice before using a gun to do that crime.
No it wouldn't. Punishment does not seem to be a deterrent. Most people would never commit a crime thinking that they are going to get caught. Those who do commit robberies are at the point of not caring what happens if they do get caught.

Prisons and jails are overflowing. If incarceration was enough to make them "think twice" then why is this the case?

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#20 Dec 27, 2012
My thought wrote:
There are less people dying at the hands of guns than car wrecks!! Have we banned cars?? What about the drunk drivers that get behind the wheels of cars and kill innocent people?? Why are we not looking for stiffer penalties or some law for these actions. It isn't less painful for these people as it is for those in Conn.
The majority of these people who commit these crimes have a criminal record, the government has let them out.
Let's face it, drugs are illegal but they are worse than ever. The same thing will happen in a gun ban. Crooks will make them, steal them, boot leg them, etc. Those that don't need them will still have them and then those who would need them for protection when the scumbag is pointing a gun at them, will not have them. This law will only hurt Law abiding citizens.
Oh and by the way, have any of you visited a jail lately??? TV's, basketball courts, smoke areas, etc. Good grief, life should be made heck in the jail. People should despise it there.
"The majority of these people who commit these crimes have a criminal record, the government has let them out."

You can give us some source on this statement? Can you tell us about Adam Lanza's criminal record? Or perhaps James Eagan Holmes? Or maybe Jared Lee Loughner? Can you tell us about their extensive criminal records? I'd like to hear about them and how the government turned them loose on society.
Fuji

Harrodsburg, KY

#21 Dec 27, 2012
marty wrote:
Airplane,flys into two buildings kills thousands,car crosses center line hits van head on kills family of 15,meth lab blows kills a family of 5,three where kids lets ban everything,one nut with a gun decides to kill,bban auto.weapons,won,t mount to much,if a nut decides to kill he,ll find a way to do it,the rifle was just a handy tool,if he didn,t have it he would have thought of and found something else,we have strict gun laws in place now,some don,t work because the one,s who are supposed to enforce them and screw things up,while doing it,a man with a long criminal background was allowed to buy a rifle background check didn,t show up or the police screwed up and he got through,went out and commited more crimes.can,t blame the the tool,blame the nut who knew how to use that tool,more prisons,stiffer penalty,s,death row inmates sentence,s carried out in a timely manner,don,t wait until he,s 70,and about to die anyway, put them down right after their sentence. And make example,s of them and a lot of this shit will stop.
Radical Muslims used three airplanes to kill ONE TIME. People die every day by guns. No object kills more American by other Americans on purpose than guns. The assualt rifle is the most dangerous gun. Start with banning it. Make gun ownership a legal thing by causing the gun to be registered. Tie the gun to the owner and punish the owner if his guns fall into a killer's hands. You are right about quick punishment. Make a law that muder by gun is an automatic death sentence and do it quick.

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