Central Kentucky

United States

#21 Mar 14, 2013
Well Jack if you don't want to be open minded then that's up to you. No maybe about nicholasvilles growth. It borders fayette county. Lexington is the second largest city in ky and you want to say MAYBE jessamine county experienced growth because of that reason???? So it makes no sense to compare them. A 5th grader could understand the reason For nicholasvilles economic development. Danville draws from parts of Garrard, Lincoln, Washington, Casey, Marion, and Mercer County. Location allowed them to do some things before Mercer county. Then they voted to allow alcohol sales which brought them even more opportunities. Harrodsburg has nothing to be ashamed of. If you think each of the counties i previously mentioned could support a appleebees, ocharlie's, crackerbarrell, etc, along with the shopping opportunities that danville does you are sadly mistaken. Not all counties can be the same. I accept that and don't complain. That doesn't mean harrodsburg is not a great place to live. Certainly nothin to be ashamed of. I am proud to live here.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#22 Mar 14, 2013
DEEDEE wrote:
ONe True Digger....Im not the smartest person so bare with me...As far as me opening up a resturant,or a gym,or my own clothing store, I know all I have to do is run to my local bank and take out a loan...(and it would go bankrupt in a month LOL)But as far as opening up say something like applebee's or Cheedars, or a bar, I thought that was the city responsibiliy, or the zoning and planning board, and then applebees would decided if harrodsburg was a suitable location ford there resturant...Guess i stop babbling now...Hope u understood all i was trying to say
So you think that the city must first invite Applebee's to town? And then Applebee's decides if it wants to come?

Am I understanding you correctly?
yeah

Harrodsburg, KY

#23 Mar 14, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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So you think that the city must first invite Applebee's to town? And then Applebee's decides if it wants to come?
Am I understanding you correctly?
Why are you asking if you understand correctly? You seem to know everything about everything and everybody already, so that's a stupid question on your part.
Yitzchak Ziffer

Harrodsburg, KY

#24 Mar 15, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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As I type this, it's 12:35pm. The banks will be open for at least three more hours.
You need to hop in your car, right now, and head on down (or up) to the bank of your choice. Ask to speak to a loan officer. Tell him or her that you want to take out a loan to open a men's clothing store and/or a loan to open a nice restaurant.
Since, by your estimation, there is no place in Harrodsburg to buy these things, and people are going to Lexington, you will have cornered the market from day one!
Let me know how it goes!
What a bunch of crap. Ordinary citizens can't open up restaurants or stores because they want to shop. Can't you understand, dunderhead, that this town lacks modernization? Other towns don't. The logical conclusion: either the citizens of this town are too stupid to demand a change or the leadership has such a clamp on forward movement that it is impossible.
Central Kentucky

Richmond, KY

#25 Mar 15, 2013
Ordinary citizens can't open up resturaunts and stores? What the hell? Who do you think owns the resturaunts and stores in this town? Ordinary, everyday people who worked hard, saved their money, probably took out a loan, took a chance, and continue to work hard to make sure their business succeeds. Their is no agenda against forward movement or progress and people in this town certainly aren't stupid. Do you really think Citizens can demand a change and all of a sudden a few resturaunts and stores open up? If you think that's how it works your wrong. Every town has it's own reasons behind its growth and development. A lot of that has to do with location among other things. As I've said before not every town can be the same or have the same things to offer.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#26 Mar 15, 2013
Central Kentucky wrote:
Ordinary citizens can't open up resturaunts and stores? What the hell? Who do you think owns the resturaunts and stores in this town? Ordinary, everyday people who worked hard, saved their money, probably took out a loan, took a chance, and continue to work hard to make sure their business succeeds. Their is no agenda against forward movement or progress and people in this town certainly aren't stupid. Do you really think Citizens can demand a change and all of a sudden a few resturaunts and stores open up? If you think that's how it works your wrong. Every town has it's own reasons behind its growth and development. A lot of that has to do with location among other things. As I've said before not every town can be the same or have the same things to offer.
I read his response about ordinary citizens earlier this morning, and for once I was at a loss for words.

Could you see that now? Going to a bank and the loan officer saying "Well sir, you just look a little too ordinary for me. Have a good day."

It all comes down to the fact, and sadly it is a fact, that a huge chunk of people, if not the majority, believe that the city controls all business in town and it is by their hand that businesses open and close. It's all a conspiracy involving the city commission, the tourism commission, and the Dedmans.

It really is sad that so many people are that ignorant.
hell yea

Danville, KY

#27 Mar 19, 2013
Sure is plenty of drugs and hoes
Wishing

Richmond, KY

#28 Mar 19, 2013
I tell you if I could get a loan I would definitely open a place for People of All Ages, sort of Family Entertainment. And that place would be a Putt-Putt course. I would have an Outdoor course as well as a Indoor course complete with a deli-type restaurant, pinball machines, foosball, pool tables-etc.... Think it would be a sucess??

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#29 Mar 19, 2013
Wishing wrote:
I tell you if I could get a loan I would definitely open a place for People of All Ages, sort of Family Entertainment. And that place would be a Putt-Putt course. I would have an Outdoor course as well as a Indoor course complete with a deli-type restaurant, pinball machines, foosball, pool tables-etc.... Think it would be a sucess??
No.
Keri

Lebanon, KY

#30 Mar 19, 2013
Wishing wrote:
I tell you if I could get a loan I would definitely open a place for People of All Ages, sort of Family Entertainment. And that place would be a Putt-Putt course. I would have an Outdoor course as well as a Indoor course complete with a deli-type restaurant, pinball machines, foosball, pool tables-etc.... Think it would be a sucess??
Go for it.I would try it out if u opened it.Would love to have some entertainment in this town. ONE TRUE DIGGER SAYS(NO) and i can understand maybe why he is saying that, seems like when something new comes to this town it doesnt stay open very long.But maybe again he has other reasons for saying NO
Proud Mama

Carlisle, KY

#31 Mar 19, 2013
It is hard to get anything new in Harrodsburg. The powers-that-be object any change or new ideas.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#32 Mar 19, 2013
Keri wrote:
<quoted text> Go for it.I would try it out if u opened it.Would love to have some entertainment in this town. ONE TRUE DIGGER SAYS(NO) and i can understand maybe why he is saying that, seems like when something new comes to this town it doesnt stay open very long.But maybe again he has other reasons for saying NO
I'd be happen to explain it.

OK first you need to take out a loan. Are you going to rent your building or are you going to build? If you build you are also going to need to purchase the land. So you get past that step. Next your going to have families coming in (we'll address that in a minute) and engaging in activities. One word: insurance. Be prepared for a very high insurance premium.

So you're going to have a deli? OK. Be prepared to add a few more thousand dollars into food storage and prep areas. Then you've got employees to pay and all that goes with that such as worker's comp insurance, unemployment, and matching their social security.

I won't go into all of the expenses, but let's say you've managed to get them all taken care of and now it's time to open your doors to the public.

How are you going to recuperate those costs? Well you're probably thinking "By what people pay to go there, dummy! Gosh!" Well obviously. But how much will people be willing to pay?

How much will it cost for a family of four to come and have a good time at your entertainment center? Keep in mind that you have to recover the cost of your rent and bank payment, your insurance, your utilities, your salaries... all of these things. And you still need to make a profit. Can Harrodsburg support this? Are there enough families who would actually come there and spend money? And how often would they come?

Your idea of pinball machines and table top football seem to hearken back to a bygone era. Today's teenagers are going to think that's "stupid." A pinball machine? Have you heard of Call of Duty: Black Ops II? Playable from their bedrooms on the Xbox 360 or PS 3?

This is why I said no. The interest for such a place simply isn't there. Harrodsburg could not support it. You need only to look at Danville and a little place called Go-Go Gorillas to see how much interest there is in a family entertainment center in this area.
Wishing

Richmond, KY

#33 Mar 19, 2013
Well I dont know much about the place but it seems Devine Corn Maze took a chance an it worked out for them. Congrats to Yall. But Digger why are you always so negative? Wonder who you really are? So if I decide to stay in this one-horse town (been here 7 years) I may just go for it!!!

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#34 Mar 19, 2013
Wishing wrote:
Well I dont know much about the place but it seems Devine Corn Maze took a chance an it worked out for them. Congrats to Yall. But Digger why are you always so negative? Wonder who you really are? So if I decide to stay in this one-horse town (been here 7 years) I may just go for it!!!
Is the Devine Corn Maze open year around? How much overhead does the Devine Corn Maze have?

If you are comparing your proposed entertainment center with Devine Corn Maze, then you show you have no understanding of how a business works.
Harrodsburg Hick

Harrodsburg, KY

#35 Mar 19, 2013
Central Kentucky wrote:
Ordinary citizens can't open up resturaunts and stores? What the hell? Who do you think owns the resturaunts and stores in this town? Ordinary, everyday people who worked hard, saved their money, probably took out a loan, took a chance, and continue to work hard to make sure their business succeeds. Their is no agenda against forward movement or progress and people in this town certainly aren't stupid. Do you really think Citizens can demand a change and all of a sudden a few resturaunts and stores open up? If you think that's how it works your wrong. Every town has it's own reasons behind its growth and development. A lot of that has to do with location among other things. As I've said before not every town can be the same or have the same things to offer.
Harrodsburg is a one horse town. It used to be right up with other towns like Danville, Lawrenceburg, Mt Sterling, Bardstown and so forth, but we have been left behind in the dust.

Anyone with half a brain knows that it is because our leadership just messes around and can't see beyond staying old and trying to bring the tourist. Just a couple of weeks our so called paper had a big article about Beaumont Inn and how the people had owned it had kept in the family for generations and how wonderful it was. That is the trouble. There ought to be more to a town than staying old and not having anything new to brag about.
mr popularity

Richmond, KY

#36 Mar 19, 2013
Proud Mama wrote:
It is hard to get anything new in Harrodsburg. The powers-that-be object any change or new ideas.
I can think of only 1 instance in the last two years where "the powers that be" said no to a new business or idea. It was based on a zoning issue, too.

How many can you name? Be specific! I'll even let you go back 10 years.
Yitchak Ziffer

Harrodsburg, KY

#37 Mar 19, 2013
mr popularity wrote:
<quoted text>
I can think of only 1 instance in the last two years where "the powers that be" said no to a new business or idea. It was based on a zoning issue, too.
How many can you name? Be specific! I'll even let you go back 10 years.
My dear old man or woman whichever it may be:

You have only to look around to see that there is a problem of antiquity in Harrodsburg. No, the planning and zoning commission has not turned down a business. That is not the problem. Our leadership, and I am talking about the underground leadership that pulls a lot of strings in Harrodsburg, is committed to keeping this community a tourist trap. They set up a restaurant tax so that the tourist trade could be heavily financed. We have nothing modern. We have nothing to keep our young people interested in and very little to bring them back after they finish college. Harrodsburg is stagnant and it is designed that way.
Central Kentucky

United States

#38 Mar 19, 2013
Mr digger is correct on a lot of things and I don't think he's being negative. He is just giving an honest and informed opinion. With the way the economy is right now it is extremely difficult for any business to make it. Something like the before mentioned family entertainment center would struggle to make it. Everything he pointed out was correct, about making payroll and the cost of running such a busines and go go gorillas going out of business, and how kids interests have changed. Why you might as well put in a pay phone beside the pinball machine so kids can scratch their heads and take a picture of it with their cell phones and wonder what the hell it is? Devines had a successful farm to begin with raising tobacco and cattle, and decided to branch out to agri tourism. It is a niche market. It's only open for a couple months and is a great place for families to take their kids to get a little taste of country life in the fall. And as I've mentioned before I don't really think there is some evil agenda on the part of the the "leaders" of this town to hinder growth and development. All towns are different. Most of the ones that have experienced a lot of growth draw from several counties and mercer co doesn't bring in a lot of people because their gonna go to Danville, Frankfort or Lexington. That doesn't mean we're back ward and that the city commissioners or leaders are tryin to keep us down. I may be wrong. There maybe more to it than what I know, but I'm at least partly right in what I'm sayin about our economic development. It makes more sense than to just blame others and say that people out there that are against seein mercer county prosper.
Central Kentucky

United States

#39 Mar 19, 2013
And I'm thankful that there are people that are working hard to promote tourism in mercer county. It's helps and benefits everybody when people visit and spend their dollars here. Their not tryin to keep it antiquated or whatever somebody said. There tryin to promote some of the landmarks that we have to the benefit of our county. Wouldn't it make more sense to have a family oriented fun center for people to visit while here? Of course. I'd love to see somethin like this go over, it just wouldn't. Nobody's tryin to keep harridsburg old. There just tryin to support and promote one of the few things we do have goin for us.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#40 Mar 19, 2013
Central Kentucky wrote:
Mr digger is correct on a lot of things and I don't think he's being negative. He is just giving an honest and informed opinion. With the way the economy is right now it is extremely difficult for any business to make it. Something like the before mentioned family entertainment center would struggle to make it. Everything he pointed out was correct, about making payroll and the cost of running such a busines and go go gorillas going out of business, and how kids interests have changed. Why you might as well put in a pay phone beside the pinball machine so kids can scratch their heads and take a picture of it with their cell phones and wonder what the hell it is? Devines had a successful farm to begin with raising tobacco and cattle, and decided to branch out to agri tourism. It is a niche market. It's only open for a couple months and is a great place for families to take their kids to get a little taste of country life in the fall. And as I've mentioned before I don't really think there is some evil agenda on the part of the the "leaders" of this town to hinder growth and development. All towns are different. Most of the ones that have experienced a lot of growth draw from several counties and mercer co doesn't bring in a lot of people because their gonna go to Danville, Frankfort or Lexington. That doesn't mean we're back ward and that the city commissioners or leaders are tryin to keep us down. I may be wrong. There maybe more to it than what I know, but I'm at least partly right in what I'm sayin about our economic development. It makes more sense than to just blame others and say that people out there that are against seein mercer county prosper.
I wholeheartedly agree.

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