Helen Crump

Columbia, SC

#21 May 30, 2013
http://www.teacherportal.com/salary/Kentucky-...
Who's blaming teachers? I'm just tired of teachers always claiming "woe is me. I'm overworked and underpaid. Look at all the stuff I do."
That site says the average teachers salary in Kentucky is $48,908, not "around $35,000". I'm not saying teachers don't work hard, but with summers, fall breaks, spring breaks, and Christmas breaks off, that is pretty daggone good pay. And yes, some teachers do take "vacations" during the school year. Throw in the great job security after tenure is achieved, extremely good pension benefits, the opportunity to retire early, etc., and it is one of the best gigs in town.
The thinker

Springfield, KY

#22 May 30, 2013
I want to know what your point of reference is?? Teachers aren't doing the "woe is me" thing. I don't want someone passing judgement on me if they have never walked in my shoes. Let me ask you this. What do you do for a living? Give us a chance to "judge" you. Are you a parent? Do you know how many idiot parents are out there? Do you even understand why these breaks are necessary? Also, do you understand that teachers do not sit around on their asses all summer. We may not have the students, but we are going to PD's, planning and working on the next year. And yes, taking a little time to recharge the batteries for the start of another rigorous year of educating students. I won't even get into the external factors of the job. Pay is not as good as you think. I could have chosen many other professions that pay a lot more, and believe it or not, offer more flexibility than I have now. But I am thankful I have a job. I can assure you of this.....it's a noble profession. I can't imagine doing anything else. For that reason, it's a great "gig." But not near as financially beneficial as you are imagining. Plus, the early retirement thing. It's a myth. Most have to find employment after "early" retirement.
Really

Campbellsville, KY

#23 May 30, 2013
Great pensions? You do know that 10% of the teacher's pay is taken out for their retirement fund. It's their 401k. This is money they've contributed. And believe me their employer (the great state of kentucky doesn't match the contribution). So their great pension is actually their own money. And you realize when you say average salary, you are counting teachers that have worked over 25 years?

Teachers also pay out of those "hefty"--note sarcasm-- salaries at least $500 a month for family health insurance. Most factories provide health insurance, or at the most the employees contribute very little.

I'm sick of all the judgements on teachers and schools. Until you've worked in a place, not just visit for a few minutes or a day, but really worked there, you can't judge.
youd

Lebanon, KY

#24 May 31, 2013
Really wrote:
Great pensions? You do know that 10% of the teacher's pay is taken out for their retirement fund. It's their 401k. This is money they've contributed. And believe me their employer (the great state of kentucky doesn't match the contribution). So their great pension is actually their own money. And you realize when you say average salary, you are counting teachers that have worked over 25 years?
Teachers also pay out of those "hefty"--note sarcasm-- salaries at least $500 a month for family health insurance. Most factories provide health insurance, or at the most the employees contribute very little.
I'm sick of all the judgements on teachers and schools. Until you've worked in a place, not just visit for a few minutes or a day, but really worked there, you can't judge.
you don't know how a factories insurance is till you pay the bill and see
Really

Campbellsville, KY

#25 May 31, 2013
Yes, I actually do. My husband has worked in a factory for 18 years, so I see the bills. His family insurance premium is less than $60 a month. Including dental and vision. My son works at TG in Lebaonon and his is about the same.
perspective

Corbin, KY

#26 May 31, 2013
The thinker wrote:
I want to know what your point of reference is?? Teachers aren't doing the "woe is me" thing. I don't want someone passing judgement on me if they have never walked in my shoes. Let me ask you this. What do you do for a living? Give us a chance to "judge" you. Are you a parent? Do you know how many idiot parents are out there? Do you even understand why these breaks are necessary? Also, do you understand that teachers do not sit around on their asses all summer. We may not have the students, but we are going to PD's, planning and working on the next year. And yes, taking a little time to recharge the batteries for the start of another rigorous year of educating students. I won't even get into the external factors of the job. Pay is not as good as you think. I could have chosen many other professions that pay a lot more, and believe it or not, offer more flexibility than I have now. But I am thankful I have a job. I can assure you of this.....it's a noble profession. I can't imagine doing anything else. For that reason, it's a great "gig." But not near as financially beneficial as you are imagining. Plus, the early retirement thing. It's a myth. Most have to find employment after "early" retirement.
Like a lot of careers today including teachers consider yourself lucky. Quit complaining because long hours with more demands are the norm today especially in business so any of you that have a job be thankful. I respect teachers but many can't identify with the real world because the institution of education brainwashes young minds with liberal ideals. It is what's wrong with America toda. Tenure like labor unions protect only the lazy and incompetent. Good teachers need neither.
The thinker

Springfield, KY

#27 May 31, 2013
Tenure protects teachers from politics, nepotism and anyone who dares to stand up to administrators when they are wrong. Most of your teachers are hardworking, committed professionals. Like any profession you have your slackers. I don't complain about long hours and I certainly can identify with the real world. As long as the demands of the job do not get in the way of instruction It can be very stressful because I can tell you this...a child's failure is completely pointed at the teacher. The reality is we have a lot of spoiled students whose parents think they do no wrong and have a sense of entitlement. Parental support could be a lot better. We have to work through the world of technology and social media. There are a lot of distractions. But I'm fine with it. It makes the job much more stressful, but that is reality. The kids do come first with most of us, not the paycheck, benefits or "time off."
the source

Winchester, KY

#28 May 31, 2013
Newsflash wrote:
A tenured teacher can be fired...if the principal is doing his job. Word is he wasn't much of a teacher himself. But you being the know it all typical teenage student you may be judged in the same way someday. Teachers were cut due to budget restraints...not enrollment.
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The truth is, he is a " good ol boy" he has no use for outsiders, and has his favorites. He sucked as a teacher, and worse as a principal. Case in point, the boys basketball coach. Never been a teacher, has no clue about basketball, I mean no clue! Plus he used to be a bookie, great role model. There are qualified tenured teachers in the school system that would do a great job coaching. GOOD Ol BOY system!
perspective

Corbin, KY

#29 May 31, 2013
the source wrote:
<quoted text>.
The truth is, he is a " good ol boy" he has no use for outsiders, and has his favorites. He sucked as a teacher, and worse as a principal. Case in point, the boys basketball coach. Never been a teacher, has no clue about basketball, I mean no clue! Plus he used to be a bookie, great role model. There are qualified tenured teachers in the school system that would do a great job coaching. GOOD Ol BOY system!
I agree with what someone else wrote. Sports should be very low priority if at all. Students need more classroom time with emphasis on business subjects or they will remain less educated compared to the rest of civilized nations. I realize with fewer 2 parent families it makes it more difficult on teachers. Also, throw in less discipline, respect taught at home and students with the world's owes them attitude which creates more hardships on teachers. However, in today's culture more hours are demanded by employers whether in the private sector or educational system. WC could use more educated "outsiders" that reflect the demands of the rest of the world. All of us should realize compared to our military perating in hostile lands we all have it pretty durn good.
Teachers complain

Harrodsburg, KY

#30 Jun 17, 2013
Teachers get out in public, and on here, complaining about their pay. Did somebody trick them to believing they would make a lot more money than they do? Teacher salaries are public information, so it's easy to find out what the job pays before you take it. Also, they get on here fussing about the kids and how they misbehave. Sure, some are bad, but others are very good kids. Is it a surprise there are some bad kids out there? Not to me, and I don't teach. Every thing teachers bitch and gripe about, they should have known before taking the job. Do the job you signed up for, knowing your salary expectations and working conditions, and shut the hell up! If you don't want the job, there are plenty of young people coming out of college who will take your place, so if it's that bad, quit! Ask one of the many unemployed people in the U.S. today. They'll tell you having no job at all sucks, too!
Really

Springfield, KY

#31 Jun 17, 2013
Where are the teachers complaining? I see some defending their profession. No one who has ever walked in another's shoes should be passing judgement. As someone who has several friends in the profession I can assure you...they knew before they went in. That's what all those observation hours are for and student teaching. Yes, they knew about the pay too.
misty

Lebanon, KY

#32 Jun 24, 2013
Really wrote:
Yes, I actually do. My husband has worked in a factory for 18 years, so I see the bills. His family insurance premium is less than $60 a month. Including dental and vision. My son works at TG in Lebaonon and his is about the same.
its the same in most jap. Factories but not all so you are wrong i've seen it to teach
daaaa

Chicago, IL

#33 Jun 25, 2013
misty wrote:
<quoted text>its the same in most jap. Factories but not all so you are wrong i've seen it to teach
Omg, where did you learn to write? Looks very bad for the KY educational system.
misty

Lebanon, KY

#34 Jun 25, 2013
daaaa wrote:
<quoted text>Omg, where did you learn to write? Looks very bad for the KY educational system.
from da teach who complain
LOL

Versailles, IN

#35 Jun 26, 2013
Where are the teachers complaining? Comprehend?
yes

Lebanon, KY

#36 Sep 3, 2013
Honor student wrote:
The teachers at the high school who got cut should have been. It is sad how lazy and unprepared to teach some of them are. I know of 4 at the high school and all I can say is good riddance, our kids deserve better.
anything on mchs' new principle who camw from washington county?
Springfield

Harrodsburg, KY

#37 Sep 11, 2013
yes wrote:
<quoted text>anything on mchs' new principle who camw from washington county?
Know him because our kids are the same age. He is a really a nice guy from a good family who all seem to be in education. I think he is a good hire and will do the best job possible for MCHS.
Lets Get Real

Pikeville, KY

#38 Sep 13, 2013
Yes teachers are off during spring break, fall break, Christmas break and some may take a vacation during the year ( I don't know of any) but all of that is with NO pay. The check are divided in 24 checks . If they are off with their wife for having a baby it's with No pay. I don't know of any teacher that makes $48,000 in WC . S get all your facts straight before making comments !!
A Parent

United States

#39 Sep 19, 2013
I read this trash talk about teachers & it makes me mad. If you feel like if here is a problem -talk to the appropriate people to get it fixed otherwise act like an adult.
Take responsibility quit blaming others.
lori

Lebanon, KY

#40 Sep 20, 2013
Springfield wrote:
<quoted text>
Know him because our kids are the same age. He is a really a nice guy from a good family who all seem to be in education. I think he is a good hire and will do the best job possible for MCHS.
well theres your good ol boy system at work thanks for the comment now we know who wrote that right

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