The Obamas live the 1 percent life
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Nutz

Harrodsburg, KY

#62 Apr 5, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
Notice how as the conversation proceeds, the anger rises. The bully attempts personal insults while pinning his frustrations on his imagined foe in a never ending, yet futile attempt, to best him.
If only to have been a fly on the wall on the night of November 6th. I'd about bet that the TV image of Karl Rove was shattered by a flying can of Pabst Blue Ribbon when it was announced that the President had won Ohio.
And you still have no answer for what the "fair share" is.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#63 Apr 5, 2013
Nutz wrote:
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And you still have no answer for what the "fair share" is.
Oh I'm so sorry. No one will play your little "gotcha game"?

Well let me help. What that means is when the rich uses tax loopholes, offshore accounts, and other gimmicks to pay a lower tax rate than a blue collar worker. The idea of a "fair share" is nothing new. Remember this old tax and spend liberal? He starts talking about it at the 54 second mark.


In fact, it was released yesterday that offshore tax havens are costing about 150 billion a year in lost revenue. That's not "fair share." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/tax-...
commom sense

London, KY

#64 Apr 5, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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Oh I'm so sorry. No one will play your little "gotcha game"?
Well let me help. What that means is when the rich uses tax loopholes, offshore accounts, and other gimmicks to pay a lower tax rate than a blue collar worker. The idea of a "fair share" is nothing new. Remember this old tax and spend liberal? He starts talking about it at the 54 second mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =E_XUAk-PVJ0XX
In fact, it was released yesterday that offshore tax havens are costing about 150 billion a year in lost revenue. That's not "fair share." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/tax-...
Then why didnt Congress change these laws when they had complete control of Congress. Maybe because several of them are rich and take advantage of the same loopholes.
commom sense

London, KY

#65 Apr 5, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
Notice how as the conversation proceeds, the anger rises. The bully attempts personal insults while pinning his frustrations on his imagined foe in a never ending, yet futile attempt, to best him.
If only to have been a fly on the wall on the night of November 6th. I'd about bet that the TV image of Karl Rove was shattered by a flying can of Pabst Blue Ribbon when it was announced that the President had won Ohio.
Wonder if you are talking about me. I am not angry. And I have not insulted you. I dont drink pabst Blue Ribbon. And I was not made on election night. Disappointed but not the least bit angry. And I dont really care for Karl Rove anymore than I like you or Ed Shultz.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#66 Apr 5, 2013
commom sense wrote:
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Wonder if you are talking about me. I am not angry. And I have not insulted you. I dont drink pabst Blue Ribbon. And I was not made on election night. Disappointed but not the least bit angry. And I dont really care for Karl Rove anymore than I like you or Ed Shultz.
I thought you liked me?
Nutz

Harrodsburg, KY

#67 Apr 5, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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Oh I'm so sorry. No one will play your little "gotcha game"?
Well let me help. What that means is when the rich uses tax loopholes, offshore accounts, and other gimmicks to pay a lower tax rate than a blue collar worker. The idea of a "fair share" is nothing new. Remember this old tax and spend liberal? He starts talking about it at the 54 second mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =E_XUAk-PVJ0XX
In fact, it was released yesterday that offshore tax havens are costing about 150 billion a year in lost revenue. That's not "fair share." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/tax-...
So, in other words, you have no viable answer. You use tax loopholes, I use tax loopholes, the guy across the street uses tax loopholes. Why are you Libtards not screaming that WE pay our fair share?

Once again, Leftist shills parroting what Dear Leader wants you to. Geez, try thinking for yourself for a change!!

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#68 Apr 5, 2013
Nutz wrote:
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So, in other words, you have no viable answer. You use tax loopholes, I use tax loopholes, the guy across the street uses tax loopholes. Why are you Libtards not screaming that WE pay our fair share?
Once again, Leftist shills parroting what Dear Leader wants you to. Geez, try thinking for yourself for a change!!
And you have no viable question. How do you want "fair share" answered? A percentage? An exact dollar figure? How do you define rich/wealthy? How much does one need to make in order to reach that level?

As I said, you want to play a "gotcha game." No answer is going to satisfy you. It's also obvious that you didn't even look at the links. Why? Because it doesn't matter to you. No answer is going to suit you.
Nutz

Harrodsburg, KY

#69 Apr 6, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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And you have no viable question. How do you want "fair share" answered? A percentage? An exact dollar figure? How do you define rich/wealthy? How much does one need to make in order to reach that level?
As I said, you want to play a "gotcha game." No answer is going to satisfy you. It's also obvious that you didn't even look at the links. Why? Because it doesn't matter to you. No answer is going to suit you.
Yea, a percentage or dollar figure. It's easy to scream the "fair share" mantra without having a clue as to what it should be. Class warfare, plain and simple.

As I stated before, most all use tax loopholes. Why is it OK for you and I, but not for the wealthy?
walker

Lebanon, KY

#70 Apr 6, 2013
People want to keep the money that they earned.
I don't begrudge anyone for using legal means to keep their money. If you want rich people to keep more money in the us, then simplify the tax code, and make it beneficial for everyone to do business in the good ol' usa

It's funny how bart loses an argument, and immediately
starts trying to get the conversation on another topic.
common sense

London, KY

#71 Apr 6, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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And you have no viable question. How do you want "fair share" answered? A percentage? An exact dollar figure? How do you define rich/wealthy? How much does one need to make in order to reach that level?
As I said, you want to play a "gotcha game." No answer is going to satisfy you. It's also obvious that you didn't even look at the links. Why? Because it doesn't matter to you. No answer is going to suit you.
But answer it anyway. What percentage do you think is fair. Do you think a flat tax is fair. What loopholes do you think should be eliminated. And liked I asked before why didnt Congress change the tax laws when they had complete control of Congress...

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#72 Apr 6, 2013
common sense wrote:
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But answer it anyway. What percentage do you think is fair. Do you think a flat tax is fair. What loopholes do you think should be eliminated. And liked I asked before why didnt Congress change the tax laws when they had complete control of Congress...
Flat tax is not fair, nor would it raise enough revenue. A flat tax would be too much on the working poor and not enough on the wealthy. In the end, while it sounds like a great idea, would put the country further in the red and create more poverty.

I think that the biggest loophole that needs to be closed are offshore accounts. That's costing billions.

Now as to the tax rates. I think that 40% for those individuals making over $400,000 a year is a fair tax rate. I think that they should be allowed deductions like anyone else, but in no circumstances should deductions be allowed to drop you further than one tier. In other words, you could go from 40% to 35% but no further. 40% should be the maximum tax rate for earned income. This would prevent a millionaire from paying a lower tax rate than a bus driver. That, in the words of that old tax and spend liberal, Ronald Reagan is "just crazy."

Congress didn't change the tax laws because coming off the financial crisis which started during Bush's second term, they did not think it was a good idea to ask the wealthy to pay more. The fact that some of them are in fact wealthy could very well play a role.

Now, that's my opinion. What's yours?
POONTHACKER

United States

#73 Apr 18, 2013
Damn Digger, seems now u r mad because of Obama, when the election was going hot and heavy, u were slamming the people that were for Romney, I remember well of all the trash u gave repb's this is just another one of ur lying attempts to show how u r, the people on here can see right through u, ur not fooling anyone Mister Digger.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#74 Apr 18, 2013
POONTHACKER wrote:
Damn Digger, seems now u r mad because of Obama, when the election was going hot and heavy, u were slamming the people that were for Romney, I remember well of all the trash u gave repb's this is just another one of ur lying attempts to show how u r, the people on here can see right through u, ur not fooling anyone Mister Digger.
You're obviously unable to read.

Since: Aug 11

Winchester, KY

#75 May 5, 2013
Obama is an absolute idiot ! Obamacare will be the final nail in the coffin for this once great country ! We are already a country of "my back hurts I can't work so I deserve money from an already broke nation " kinda people ! He has no goal that I can see other than to cripple the nation ! Benghazi is a prime example of his duty to our citizens ! They were being slaughtered and he just kept on partying in Vegas ! Hillary and Him should stand trial for treason ! For not coming to their aid ! This man and his staff of idiots will try b4 they are out of office to hand the country over to the UN ! Please Sara Pailin come to our rescue in the next presidential race !!!!

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