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Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#21 Jul 20, 2013
Not welcome wrote:
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Believe it! you can't get on a committee unless the few members want you ! And they don't want anyone thats not part of their click...why would they ?. Only a few benefit and that's the family that's on the board...
That's not what you said. You said: " agree- if you don't have a certain last name then you are not welcomed at any meeting or function."
Not Welcome

United States

#22 Jul 20, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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That's not what you said. You said: " agree- if you don't have a certain last name then you are not welcomed at any meeting or function."
Exactly,

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#23 Jul 21, 2013
Not Welcome wrote:
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Exactly,
So you're saying that if you don't have the right last name, you're not allowed to attend the public meetings? Can you give any example whatsoever of someone being barred from entering a public meeting?
facts

Harrodsburg, KY

#24 Jul 21, 2013
this guy wrote:
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Tourist commission board makeup is determined by statute.
I checked up on this. There is a law about what to do with the tourist commission. The laws says that the county appoints some and the city appoints some. That is what they do.

But the law does not say who they punts on the board. Since there has been a tourist commissions they have always put a family that owns a big fancy restaurant and bar and hotel on the board. That guy has always been the president or what ever they call the one that runs the commission. That ain't right. There are other places to eat and motels and they ought to get a turn to run things.
You see, the commissions gets the tax money from every place that sells eats from McDonnalds to the big one on Beaumont Avenue. If you was the owner to that place on Beaumont Avenue and you was the head of the tourist commission and you had a lot of tax money to advertise to tourist what would you do. You would do what he does. You would spend it on advertising your business.
facts

Harrodsburg, KY

#25 Jul 21, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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So you're saying that if you don't have the right last name, you're not allowed to attend the public meetings? Can you give any example whatsoever of someone being barred from entering a public meeting?
I reckon you can go to any meeing you want to go to. But they won't pay no attention. Years ago when the county judge was wanting to lay tax on any body that worked in the county I went to a big meeting. I did talk against it and a lot of other people did too. He never paid no attention to us and done it anyway. I went to a school board meeting and tried to talk. They told me what I wanted to say was not on an agenda or something like that.

I ain't going no more. It don't do no good.
Not Welcome

United States

#26 Jul 21, 2013
facts wrote:
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I checked up on this. There is a law about what to do with the tourist commission. The laws says that the county appoints some and the city appoints some. That is what they do.
But the law does not say who they punts on the board. Since there has been a tourist commissions they have always put a family that owns a big fancy restaurant and bar and hotel on the board. That guy has always been the president or what ever they call the one that runs the commission. That ain't right. There are other places to eat and motels and they ought to get a turn to run things.
You see, the commissions gets the tax money from every place that sells eats from McDonnalds to the big one on Beaumont Avenue. If you was the owner to that place on Beaumont Avenue and you was the head of the tourist commission and you had a lot of tax money to advertise to tourist what would you do. You would do what he does. You would spend it on advertising your business.
You are so right on this sublect....this should be published on the front page of the Harrodsburg Paper every week so the common people can understand why our community is controlled by a few !!

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#27 Jul 21, 2013
facts wrote:
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I checked up on this. There is a law about what to do with the tourist commission. The laws says that the county appoints some and the city appoints some. That is what they do.
But the law does not say who they punts on the board. Since there has been a tourist commissions they have always put a family that owns a big fancy restaurant and bar and hotel on the board. That guy has always been the president or what ever they call the one that runs the commission. That ain't right. There are other places to eat and motels and they ought to get a turn to run things.
You see, the commissions gets the tax money from every place that sells eats from McDonnalds to the big one on Beaumont Avenue. If you was the owner to that place on Beaumont Avenue and you was the head of the tourist commission and you had a lot of tax money to advertise to tourist what would you do. You would do what he does. You would spend it on advertising your business.
If you want to be on the tourism commission, then you need to let it be known. Of course when asked about your qualifications, "I've drove a forklift at Hitachi for 17 years" won't exactly cut it.
facts

Harrodsburg, KY

#28 Jul 23, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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If you want to be on the tourism commission, then you need to let it be known. Of course when asked about your qualifications, "I've drove a forklift at Hitachi for 17 years" won't exactly cut it.
You is one dumb cluck. What if a plain fellow went up to the place where the city or county elected persons does their business and say put me on the tourist commission or on any of them boards or commissions that are not elected. Do you think that they would pay any attention to us? They ain't about to.

Another way you is a dumb cluck is this. There is plenty of people who drive forklifts and drives trucks,and who works in factories and such that has enough sense to help run things. We pays the taxes. We live here. We is people too.
do what

Richmond, KY

#29 Jul 23, 2013
facts wrote:
<quoted text>You is one dumb cluck. What if a plain fellow went up to the place where the city or county elected persons does their business and say put me on the tourist commission or on any of them boards or commissions that are not elected. Do you think that they would pay any attention to us? They ain't about to.

Another way you is a dumb cluck is this. There is plenty of people who drive forklifts and drives trucks,and who works in factories and such that has enough sense to help run things. We pays the taxes. We live here. We is people too.
I think you have help make his point...

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#30 Jul 23, 2013
facts wrote:
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You is one dumb cluck. What if a plain fellow went up to the place where the city or county elected persons does their business and say put me on the tourist commission or on any of them boards or commissions that are not elected. Do you think that they would pay any attention to us? They ain't about to.
Another way you is a dumb cluck is this. There is plenty of people who drive forklifts and drives trucks,and who works in factories and such that has enough sense to help run things. We pays the taxes. We live here. We is people too.
Actually no. What does someone who drives a forklift for a living know about tourism? Likewise, I wouldn't want to turn Dixon Dedman loose on a forklift.

You'll find that the people serving on the tourism commission have experience in that field.

Perhaps you should open a hotel or a restaurant if this is something you are interested in.
Diamond Pointer

Danville, KY

#31 Jul 23, 2013
There are some unfortunate mistruths that we must address.

Although, it is questionable whether these posts are from one person under several pseudonyms or two people just playing off of one another. Here are the facts:

1) Diamond Point is a 501(c)3 non-profit corporation that is recognized as In Good Standing with the IRS. Furthermore, Diamond Point is in good standing with the Ky Secretary of State. You can read the filing online, if you so wish.
There is no "dummy corporation".

2) There are two tenants in Diamond Point. Not just the Tourist Commission. These two occupy just about 2/3 of the building

3) The Tourist Commission paid $31,343.19 of rent in advance, for a five-year lease. This investment saves the Tourist Commission $10,917.00 in rent that would have been paid over a 5 year period. So for those who may not understand... the Tourist Commission has $10,917 more over the next five years, than if they were to pay the normal rent plus an annual rent increase.

4) The Diamond Point Foundation took the rent pre-payment and retired the debt on the building. The structure is now owned free and clear to serve the community.
do what

Richmond, KY

#32 Jul 23, 2013
Diamond Pointer wrote:
There are some unfortunate mistruths that we must address.

Although, it is questionable whether these posts are from one person under several pseudonyms or two people just playing off of one another. Here are the facts:

1) Diamond Point is a 501(c)3 non-profit corporation that is recognized as In Good Standing with the IRS. Furthermore, Diamond Point is in good standing with the Ky Secretary of State. You can read the filing online, if you so wish.
There is no "dummy corporation".

2) There are two tenants in Diamond Point. Not just the Tourist Commission. These two occupy just about 2/3 of the building

3) The Tourist Commission paid $31,343.19 of rent in advance, for a five-year lease. This investment saves the Tourist Commission $10,917.00 in rent that would have been paid over a 5 year period. So for those who may not understand... the Tourist Commission has $10,917 more over the next five years, than if they were to pay the normal rent plus an annual rent increase.

4) The Diamond Point Foundation took the rent pre-payment and retired the debt on the building. The structure is now owned free and clear to serve the community.
I said all this several days ago. The truth makes little difference when perception dictates reality...
Rose Hill Ranger

Harrodsburg, KY

#33 Jul 25, 2013
Diamond Pointer wrote:
There are some unfortunate mistruths that we must address.
Although, it is questionable whether these posts are from one person under several pseudonyms or two people just playing off of one another. Here are the facts:
1) Diamond Point is a 501(c)3 non-profit corporation that is recognized as In Good Standing with the IRS. Furthermore, Diamond Point is in good standing with the Ky Secretary of State. You can read the filing online, if you so wish.
There is no "dummy corporation".
2) There are two tenants in Diamond Point. Not just the Tourist Commission. These two occupy just about 2/3 of the building
3) The Tourist Commission paid $31,343.19 of rent in advance, for a five-year lease. This investment saves the Tourist Commission $10,917.00 in rent that would have been paid over a 5 year period. So for those who may not understand... the Tourist Commission has $10,917 more over the next five years, than if they were to pay the normal rent plus an annual rent increase.
4) The Diamond Point Foundation took the rent pre-payment and retired the debt on the building. The structure is now owned free and clear to serve the community.
It is very good to know that Diamond Point is non profit cooperation instead of a so called dummy cooperation, although I think what it is called is purely semantic.
What remains a question to me, as a tax payer is this: Why does this cooperation what ever it is called and the tourist commission need this large building and it's expense? Did I read somewhere that it cost a half million dollars to renovate? Beside having an office for two agencies, exactly how does it serve the community? Does the tourist commission just like to preserve old buildings or is there some other reason why it is necessary to house the tourist commission there rather than some where else. It would be very good if those who can spend the public's money would spend it as if it were their own instead of thinking of the tax payer as some sort of sugar daddy with deep pockets.
I get it that the tourist commission is there to push the tourist business and I realize that the tourist business does directly benefit a segment of the community. That would be good if those that benefit were not the ones who run the commission.
Diamond Pointer

Danville, KY

#34 Jul 25, 2013
The tourist commission had nothing to do with the renovation, preservation or financing of Diamond Point. The project was a partnership between Harrodsburg First, Diamond Point Foundation (DPF), the Kentucky Heritage Council and Renaissance Kentucky.

At the time, everyone was supportive for this project. 8 years later isn't the time to point fingers and judge those decisions.

You should just go down to Diamond Point and speak to them about your ideas instead of asking questions on Topix. Go there and ask questions face to face and learn the facts so you are not operating in the dark.

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