Could you have saved Ricky? Chapter 5

Could you have saved Ricky? Chapter 5

There are 13 comments on the WZZM Grand Rapids story from Dec 6, 2007, titled Could you have saved Ricky? Chapter 5. In it, WZZM Grand Rapids reports that:

Randall Cook, the principal of both Frost and Cascades elementary schools in Jackson, was leaving Frost in mid-August 2004 when he saw something unusual: a woman with a boy on a leash.

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A MOTHER OF 2

Spring Lake, MI

#1 Dec 6, 2007
Both of these people deserve to burn in hell the way they abused this little boy!! It makes me sick to my stomach to think of the pain the little boy suffered in the hands of these two DEVILS!!!!!!!!!! I hope they get beat and abused in every way possible for the rest of their life in prison.
new parent

Lapeer, MI

#2 Dec 6, 2007
incompitence and neglect are the two worst things in parenthood. these people need to get some real help and do some time. maybe then they will realize how much they hurt their child.
Appalled

Big Rapids, MI

#3 Dec 6, 2007
These people THOROUGHLY disgust me. What kind of barbaric human being treats a little boy like that? Tim & Lisa Holland are monsters. I can't believe how so much of this 'slipped through the cracks' and wasn't noticed by SOMEONE who could stop it.

Why didn't they tell CPS "We can't handle Ricky?" Why continue to adopt MORE of his siblings, which clearly only added to the stressful, out of control situation they were already dealing with? Sounds to me like they were motivated by greed.

It's just so d.a.m.n. sad that this had to happen. I really hope that changes are made to the system to get more kids like Ricky OUT of potentially FATAL households.
Lisa

Allegan, MI

#4 Dec 6, 2007
This story makes me cry everytime I read anything about it. These people are the devil! Oh how I wish I cou;ld have had RICKY!! How different his poor little life would have been.

“LET'S GO RED WINGS!!”

Since: Aug 07

America

#5 Dec 6, 2007
So, do they have any kids now? I hope they have ALL been taken away. They have no clue how to deal properly with children and should both be sterilized!
Hard to Read

Big Rapids, MI

#6 Dec 6, 2007
I can hardly bring myself to read about what happened to this child. We owe it to Ricky to read it though ... and then to DO SOMETHING about a wrecked up "system" that allows such things to happen.

Since: Aug 07

Michigan

#7 Dec 6, 2007
I agree, Hard to Read!

It is heart wrenching reading what happened to this poor little boy. It makes it worse knowing that this wasn't an isolated incident but continuous abuse. God rest your soul, sweet Ricky.
upset in Grand Rapids

Wayland, MI

#8 Dec 6, 2007
Lisa Holland is a monster, and she should be tortured just as she did to that little boy! Tim is no better either! How can creeps like that be given parenting rights??? This is not right!
Lightsout

Hudsonville, MI

#9 Dec 6, 2007
Via personal experience, I can freely state that many caseworkers are at times, sent into the field before they are truly ready. Even though, under supervision during a probationary period... mistakes are common. I am not saying this is the case here, just a simple fact. Maybe if there were a type of "immediate response abuse" board (3 members+), which weighed questionable circumstances as they are reported,(not days later) and if warranted, intervention was immediate? Leaving judgment calls (in some instances) up to any single person reeks of failure. Just my opinion.

Bless little Ricky
saddenedmom

United States

#10 Dec 6, 2007
I am just sad for this child and for the others that were placed in the care of these people. As an adoptive parent, and one who cannot have her own children, my heart breaks for all sorts of reasons over this child. I only pray that the other children weren't witness to this abuse, or part of their own abuse at the hands of these people. Ricky is for sure in a much better place now and know the true love of our Father.
God bless the other children and give them a better, safer road to travel. You are in my prayers and thoughts.

“Go TIGERS!!”

Since: Nov 07

Caledonia, MI

#11 Dec 6, 2007
Lightsout wrote:
Via personal experience, I can freely state that many caseworkers are at times, sent into the field before they are truly ready. Even though, under supervision during a probationary period... mistakes are common. I am not saying this is the case here, just a simple fact. Maybe if there were a type of "immediate response abuse" board (3 members+), which weighed questionable circumstances as they are reported,(not days later) and if warranted, intervention was immediate? Leaving judgment calls (in some instances) up to any single person reeks of failure. Just my opinion.
Bless little Ricky
That is very good idea.
flungdung

United States

#12 Dec 12, 2007
The guidelines for people applying to become foster parents are flimsy as hell. I come from a family where domestic abuse was an ongoing problem, and my mom applied to become a foster parent after she lost her job years ago. She kept talking about all this money that she would get paid to do this, and complained about the regular visits that would be required as a condition of this obligation. The questionaires sent to the applicant's children and others were complete BS, because if anyone said anything negative, there was no confidentiality to protect the person. Mom kept harping on about how important it was that she get approved for this. My brother said he basically was forced to lie on the application for mom to be approved. Luckily, there was a God out there, because she got a job that gave her more hours and she did not have time to pursue it, effectively making her status expired. Let's face it: if they really want very good foster parents to help out, the pool of people out there is extremely scarce. Dysfunctional families are a dime a dozen.
JudgeNot

Leslie, MI

#13 Dec 20, 2007
flungdung wrote:
The guidelines for people applying to become foster parents are flimsy as hell. I come from a family where domestic abuse was an ongoing problem, and my mom applied to become a foster parent after she lost her job years ago. She kept talking about all this money that she would get paid to do this, and complained about the regular visits that would be required as a condition of this obligation. The questionaires sent to the applicant's children and others were complete BS, because if anyone said anything negative, there was no confidentiality to protect the person. Mom kept harping on about how important it was that she get approved for this. My brother said he basically was forced to lie on the application for mom to be approved. Luckily, there was a God out there, because she got a job that gave her more hours and she did not have time to pursue it, effectively making her status expired. Let's face it: if they really want very good foster parents to help out, the pool of people out there is extremely scarce. Dysfunctional families are a dime a dozen.
Please write the governor and tell her to sign into law, legislation that requires Michigan foster care licensee's to undergo criminal background checks. Currently they do not.

http://www.cw46online.com/story.aspx...

(AP)-- The Michigan Legislature has voted to require foster care providers to get criminal background checks.

School employees and day care providers currently have to get background checks.

The bill sent to Governor Jennifer Granholm Thursday requires the state Department of Human Services to perform a criminal background check on all persons over age 18 living in a foster home.

The bill also would prevent sex offenders from getting foster care licenses.

Granholm is likely to sign the legislation.

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