A Fair Trial in Mingo County

A Fair Trial in Mingo County

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Ridge Runner

Prestonsburg, KY

#1 Apr 9, 2013
Do you think Sheriff Crum's assasin could get a fair trial in Mingo County? Or do you think so many people have made up their mind he is guilty that finding an impartial jury is not possible?
Mingo county resident

Gilbert, WV

#2 Apr 9, 2013
How could you even ask that question. I know he's someone's son, maybe a father. But let's get this straight a man doing his Job eating lunch and was killed while on the job and they man was caught red handed...where do you get he's not going to get a fair trail? It's a sad day for Mingo county all around. And to this Mans family I'm sorry you hurt. But the facts remains they should have killed him on sight, our taxes money is going to keep this Psych a live we need the death penalty brought back just for people like him and that new boy and maybe people would think long and hard before they go and choice to take someone's life who's trying to have a life.. But that's my opinion, and to all the people effected by this tragic nightmare you have my deepest sympathy !
Ridge Runner

Prestonsburg, KY

#3 Apr 9, 2013
The US Constitution says that an accused person has the right to a speedy and public trail by an "impartial jury". Unfortunately, there are some of you who seem to want to ignore the Constitution and kill the perp on the spot. That's called a "lynch mob".

You should read the Constitution one day for your own education.

Ridge Bummer

Montclair, NJ

#4 Apr 9, 2013
Ridge Runner wrote:
The US Constitution says that an accused person has the right to a speedy and public trail by an "impartial jury". Unfortunately, there are some of you who seem to want to ignore the Constitution and kill the perp on the spot. That's called a "lynch mob".
You should read the Constitution one day for your own education.
No one likes you anyway, dumbass.

(NH)
wvsky

Roanoke, VA

#5 Apr 9, 2013
Ridge Bummer wrote:
<quoted text>No one likes you anyway, dumbass.
(NH)
I like Ridge Runner, even though I find him annoying and a bit of an elitist at times.
Well

Elkview, WV

#6 Apr 9, 2013
It will be tried in Mingo County.

There is not really a question of guilt at this point.

There is overwhelming proof that he did it.
Unbelievable

High Point, NC

#7 Apr 9, 2013
He did it in broad daylight with a witness no less. What would be a fair trial? Of course there will probably be an insanity plea. People getting out of crimes like this is what causes this kind of crimes to happen repeatedly.
Ridge Runner

Prestonsburg, KY

#8 Apr 9, 2013
Unbelievable wrote:
He did it in broad daylight with a witness no less. What would be a fair trial? Of course there will probably be an insanity plea. People getting out of crimes like this is what causes this kind of crimes to happen repeatedly.
A fair trial would be one in which the jury is impartial. You would not be allowed to serve because its obvious your mind is made up about his guilt before you've heard the evidence. Any decent attorney would exclude you from the jury.
We have a Constitution to protect citizens from kind of vigilante justice you're talking about.
Well

Elkview, WV

#9 Apr 9, 2013
The guy was caught with the gun that shot the Sheriff.

Can't really be 'impartial' about that.

It is open and shut.
Truth

High Point, NC

#10 Apr 9, 2013
@ Ridge Runner -
Let's refresh your memory , he shot sheriff Crum in his patrol vehicle in broad daylight . The gun was seized from this man , there is no one being impartial here all the evidence is clear !
Ridge Runner

Prestonsburg, KY

#11 Apr 9, 2013
Truth wrote:
@ Ridge Runner -
Let's refresh your memory , he shot sheriff Crum in his patrol vehicle in broad daylight . The gun was seized from this man , there is no one being impartial here all the evidence is clear !
I don't need my memory refreshed as much as you need to know what the Sixth Amendment to our Constitution says. Whether you like it or not, the accused has the right to a speedy, public trial before an impartial jury. I'm simply repeating what the Amendment states and has stated since the Bill of Rights was adopted. This seems to annoy you and I wonder why.
Ridge Runner

Prestonsburg, KY

#12 Apr 9, 2013
wvsky wrote:
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I like Ridge Runner, even though I find him annoying and a bit of an elitist at times.
Truthfully, I'm pleased that some of my comments are annoying. Helps keep me on my toes and I've learned a lot since I started posting on TOPIX like keeping my mouth shut when I don't have at least some facts. Its hard to separate factual information of your own long-held prejudices.

I don't consider myself an elitist but a person of average intelligence, income and education. But, I refuse to dummy down for the people who read any of my threads. I do have to admit I consider myself a little brighter than some people who post just as I consider some as an intellectual equal and some who are much smarter than me.
Unbelievable

High Point, NC

#13 Apr 9, 2013
It will be hard to find jurors for this case that are impartial, even if the trial does not take place in Mingo County. This story, like the murder of the District Attorney and his wife in Texas was broadcast all over the United States. You're right, Ridge Runner, I would not be a suitable juror on this case. I am more concerned about the victim's rights and not a murderer's rights. The Crum family has lost their loved one and I hope they get justice. I am aware of the 6th. amendment (I am a person of average intelligence, income, and education too)and I'm sure the convicted man will get a "fair" trial. There is a lot of overwhelming evidence, though and things don't look very favorable as far as the accused is concerned . And IF there are others that were involved in this horrific crime, I hope the Crum family will not stop until they are brought to justice too. What law-abiding citizen would not feel this way?
JUST WONDERING

United States

#14 Apr 9, 2013
Ridge Runner wrote:
<quoted text>Truthfully, I'm pleased that some of my comments are annoying. Helps keep me on my toes and I've learned a lot since I started posting on TOPIX like keeping my mouth shut when I don't have at least some facts. Its hard to separate factual information of your own long-held prejudices.

I don't consider myself an elitist but a person of average intelligence, income and education. But, I refuse to dummy down for the people who read any of my threads. I do have to admit I consider myself a little brighter than some people who post just as I consider some as an intellectual equal and some who are much smarter than me.
We had a "conversation" on a different thread about this and I don't quite get what you mean by a fair trial? They will let him say why he killed him but he's STILL guilty! Someone seen him shoot him, they'll let him tell the details of how it went down but he's still guilty! No matter how you cut it, he shot a sheriff! No excuse or reason will get you out of that! The prosecutor will not offer him a plea agreement, he's going to lock up whether it be jail or mental facility!
Ridge Runner

Prestonsburg, KY

#15 Apr 9, 2013
JUST WONDERING wrote:
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We had a "conversation" on a different thread about this and I don't quite get what you mean by a fair trial? They will let him say why he killed him but he's STILL guilty! Someone seen him shoot him, they'll let him tell the details of how it went down but he's still guilty! No matter how you cut it, he shot a sheriff! No excuse or reason will get you out of that! The prosecutor will not offer him a plea agreement, he's going to lock up whether it be jail or mental facility!
I've had several conversations about this and will probably have several more in my lifetime since I do have faith in our Bill of Rights.

Since you aren't hearing what I have to say, then read the Sixth Amendment for yourself and do a little research until you do understand what a fair trial is. Its hard to believe you've grown up in a Country where every person has this Constitutional right and you don't know what it means.

Even if you've never read the Bill of Rights, how many television shows or movies have you seen when the right to a fair trial is central to the story being told?
Unbelievable

High Point, NC

#16 Apr 9, 2013
Ridge Runner wrote:
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I don't need my memory refreshed as much as you need to know what the Sixth Amendment to our Constitution says. Whether you like it or not, the accused has the right to a speedy, public trial before an impartial jury. I'm simply repeating what the Amendment states and has stated since the Bill of Rights was adopted. This seems to annoy you and I wonder why.
Why so much concern about a killer getting a fair trial instead of justice being served? You are the one who seems to be annoyed.
Well

Elkview, WV

#17 Apr 9, 2013
Impartial - not partial or biased : treating or affecting all equally.

Once the Prosecutor presents his overwhelming evidence it will be kind of hard to be impartial.

I don't think it is even going to be an issue in the case.

The guy would be stupid to try and deny what he did. There is solid evidence that he did it.

The only argument he could even offer would be an 'insanity' defense.

That does not go over as well as it once did. He will be serving life somewhere.
JUST WONDERING

United States

#18 Apr 9, 2013
Ridge Runner wrote:
<quoted text>I've had several conversations about this and will probably have several more in my lifetime since I do have faith in our Bill of Rights.

Since you aren't hearing what I have to say, then read the Sixth Amendment for yourself and do a little research until you do understand what a fair trial is. Its hard to believe you've grown up in a Country where every person has this Constitutional right and you don't know what it means.

Even if you've never read the Bill of Rights, how many television shows or movies have you seen when the right to a fair trial is central to the story being told?
Ok first of all, I'm not illiterate nor a child! I've read the sixth amendment and you shouldn't have faith in the Bill of Rights! This is Mingo County for Gods sakes, the most corrupt county there is!
JUST WONDERING

United States

#19 Apr 9, 2013
Well wrote:
Impartial - not partial or biased : treating or affecting all equally.

Once the Prosecutor presents his overwhelming evidence it will be kind of hard to be impartial.

I don't think it is even going to be an issue in the case.

The guy would be stupid to try and deny what he did. There is solid evidence that he did it.

The only argument he could even offer would be an 'insanity' defense.

That does not go over as well as it once did. He will be serving life somewhere.
I agree! This is only my "Opinion" but this man knew what he was doing, they say he hasn't been the same for 6 years and has never been in trouble with the law other than a moving violation for no seat belt. There was an agenda, I don't think drugs, he knew this man would be there, he pulled up and Crum rolled his window down and he walked up and shot him TWICE and he KNEW to flee the scene because he knows right from wrong! When the police officer was chasing him, he knew they were gonna shoot, so he got out of his car aiming him gun! He was supposed to have made a comment to EMT's but I haven't heard what he was supposed to have said?
IKNOW2

Knoxville, TN

#20 Apr 9, 2013
Well wrote:
It will be tried in Mingo County.
There is not really a question of guilt at this point.
There is overwhelming proof that he did it.
You maybe correct,but as for the outcome of this man??? It may not be what one thinks.
Do any of you honestly think he can find an impartial Jury in the State of WV anywhere? Let alone even find an unbiased Public Defender in the whole State of WV.? I see a Pro-Bono Lawyer picking this up from no doubt up North in WV. some where for nothing other than the publicity this Trial shall bring.And as for being tried in Mingo County??? I really don't think so.But time will tell,and I still have hope that the Judicial System will give this man what he deserves for this Terrible crime,Mentally Ill or not..He chose to pick up a Gun and do this terrible deed and one would think at the time he did it he knew what he was doing,and it played out just as this man expected too...He is and always will be a Murderer and as bad as it may be all people are doing is making this man famous with all the Publicity he is getting and will continue to get till this is finally over..RIP Sheriff Crum praying for the ones you left behind...

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