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Old Guy

Mason, OH

#28692 May 24, 2014
Professor wrote:
That means there has never been a legal President of the United States ever.
How did you reach that conclusion? I see nothing in Article II Section I to support it.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#28693 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Nope.
Democrats have long realized they have a huge voting base in the lazy and irresponsible. These people are prime candidates for government dependency. Democrats are hell bent on expanding this base. So how could Democrats do that? By making as many people government dependent as they possibly can.
Hillary had the first plan with HillaryCare. Citizens strongly rejected it which led to the first Republican led Congress in over 40 years. Along comes DumBama and he did the exact same thing, except he succeeded.
Most working citizens depended on their employer for their healthcare coverage. So the plan had to include removing employers for this huge benefit and replacing it with government. Commie Care had that in mind. In fact, in the 2010 National Registry, DumBama's administration wrote that they predicted up to 80% of people will lose their coverage because of Commie Care thus giving that power to the government. It's what won DumBama Lie Of The Year award.
Fast forward to today, and over 6 million people lost their healthcare coverage while (according to the Communist) 8 million people now have it through Commie Care; 8 million more government dependents.
See, you sheep don't understand the ultimate plan. And that is if the Democrats can make most people depend on government, they believe they will keep leadership forever. Think the expansion of welfare, Obama Phones, SS disability, unemployment extensions and food stamps was a fluke? Think again. You DumBama supporters are leading us to a state of government dependency. And every time one of you sticks up for DumBama or the Democrats, I picture you like a bunch of frogs in a pot of cold water under the fire on the stove.
You just don't understand yet. By the time you do, it will be all over.
Wait. So you don't have insurance because you couldn't be bothered to complete the application. And this means that all these other people are lazy. And that it's their fault you don't have insurance?

You could stand to have a long think about personal responsibility
xxxrayted

Berea, OH

#28694 May 24, 2014
tranpsosition wrote:
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Wait. So you don't have insurance because you couldn't be bothered to complete the application. And this means that all these other people are lazy. And that it's their fault you don't have insurance?
You could stand to have a long think about personal responsibility
Comprehension problems I see. Don't feel bad, comprehension problems are very common with liberals. So let's try this again:

I lost my healthcare because of DumBama and the Democrats. That's it. I can't make it much simpler than that. If not for DumBama, I would still have healthcare insurance today, and so would the other 6 million that lost their insurance as well.

Liberals have this false belief that money and goodies appear out of nowhere by just voting for it. There is no truth to that. Government doesn't have anything because government doesn't produce anything. Therefore, if government gives you a television set, they first had to take that television from somebody else. Government can't give you something that they don't have.

Government cannot force somebody or some people to give you something they don't have either. Want free government cell phones, then somebody has to pay for those cell phones and 250 anytime minutes per month. Cell phones just don't magically appear. Those free cell phones come from paying cell phone customers. We have to pay for those phones and time through our cell phone bill.

Government healthcare no different. You want a plan that costs half as much as an individual plan before? Somebody has to pay for those plans. Government taxpayers have to pay for those plans. People with individual plans (not on Commie Care) have to pay for those plans. Employers that provide health insurance to their employees have to pay for those plans. Insurance companies do not have a money machine to pay for all those people that have cheaper insurance and preexisting conditions.

When that happens, insurance companies get that money by increasing premiums on people that are not on Commie Care. The result of that is individuals and employers dropping those plans because they are no longer affordable. That's what happened to me and millions of others.
Professor

Cincinnati, OH

#28695 May 24, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
How did you reach that conclusion? I see nothing in Article II Section I to support it.
No President has been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. That means he has to have lived in Washington D.C. for 14 years. None have ever lived there for 14 years.
They don't even obey their own laws. Apparently you don't know what the Constitution means, it was for the people living in and officials in D.C.(The United States).

Further more the laws the President makes only applies to Washington D.C. Porto Rico, Guam and the territories they own like Federal parks in the states. In fact the laws of the State of Ohio only apply on Federal property. The people believe they apply to them but it does not. Please tell me where you live.
A.) In The State of Ohio
B.) In Ohio State
C.) In The United States

You can learn more if you read "The Organic Laws" , they are in the 1st law book that the attorneys do not get, it is "The Unites States Code" book Title 1-General Provisions to Title5.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#28696 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Comprehension problems I see. Don't feel bad, comprehension problems are very common with liberals. So let's try this again:
I lost my healthcare because of DumBama and the Democrats. That's it. I can't make it much simpler than that. If not for DumBama, I would still have healthcare insurance today, and so would the other 6 million that lost their insurance as well.
Liberals have this false belief that money and goodies appear out of nowhere by just voting for it. There is no truth to that. Government doesn't have anything because government doesn't produce anything. Therefore, if government gives you a television set, they first had to take that television from somebody else. Government can't give you something that they don't have.
Government cannot force somebody or some people to give you something they don't have either. Want free government cell phones, then somebody has to pay for those cell phones and 250 anytime minutes per month. Cell phones just don't magically appear. Those free cell phones come from paying cell phone customers. We have to pay for those phones and time through our cell phone bill.
Government healthcare no different. You want a plan that costs half as much as an individual plan before? Somebody has to pay for those plans. Government taxpayers have to pay for those plans. People with individual plans (not on Commie Care) have to pay for those plans. Employers that provide health insurance to their employees have to pay for those plans. Insurance companies do not have a money machine to pay for all those people that have cheaper insurance and preexisting conditions.
When that happens, insurance companies get that money by increasing premiums on people that are not on Commie Care. The result of that is individuals and employers dropping those plans because they are no longer affordable. That's what happened to me and millions of others.
Spreading bull makes you as happy as a oppossum eatin' cowcrap:

www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/

www.azcentral.com/news/politics/azfactcheck/f...

www.benefitspro.com/2014/05/09/killing-employ...
xxxrayted

Berea, OH

#28697 May 24, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
Comprehension problems I see. Not to worry, comprehension problems are very common among liberals. From your article:

"The companies often charge customers to fund their contributions in the form of a universal service fee you might see on your monthly phone bill. The fund is then parceled out to companies, such as América Móvil, that create programs, such as SafeLink, to provide telecommunications service to rural areas and low-income households."
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#28698 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Comprehension problems I see. Don't feel bad, comprehension problems are very common with liberals. So let's try this again:
I lost my healthcare because of DumBama and the Democrats. That's it. I can't make it much simpler than that. If not for DumBama, I would still have healthcare insurance today, and so would the other 6 million that lost their insurance as well.
Liberals have this false belief that money and goodies appear out of nowhere by just voting for it. There is no truth to that. Government doesn't have anything because government doesn't produce anything. Therefore, if government gives you a television set, they first had to take that television from somebody else. Government can't give you something that they don't have.
Government cannot force somebody or some people to give you something they don't have either. Want free government cell phones, then somebody has to pay for those cell phones and 250 anytime minutes per month. Cell phones just don't magically appear. Those free cell phones come from paying cell phone customers. We have to pay for those phones and time through our cell phone bill.
Government healthcare no different. You want a plan that costs half as much as an individual plan before? Somebody has to pay for those plans. Government taxpayers have to pay for those plans. People with individual plans (not on Commie Care) have to pay for those plans. Employers that provide health insurance to their employees have to pay for those plans. Insurance companies do not have a money machine to pay for all those people that have cheaper insurance and preexisting conditions.
When that happens, insurance companies get that money by increasing premiums on people that are not on Commie Care. The result of that is individuals and employers dropping those plans because they are no longer affordable. That's what happened to me and millions of others.
As per the Benefits Pro article- Employers with less than 50 employees are EXEMPT. The other mandates are delayed also. Another lie shot down.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#28699 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Comprehension problems I see. Don't feel bad, comprehension problems are very common with liberals. So let's try this again:
I lost my healthcare because of DumBama and the Democrats. That's it. I can't make it much simpler than that. If not for DumBama, I would still have healthcare insurance today, and so would the other 6 million that lost their insurance as well.
Liberals have this false belief that money and goodies appear out of nowhere by just voting for it. There is no truth to that. Government doesn't have anything because government doesn't produce anything. Therefore, if government gives you a television set, they first had to take that television from somebody else. Government can't give you something that they don't have.
Government cannot force somebody or some people to give you something they don't have either. Want free government cell phones, then somebody has to pay for those cell phones and 250 anytime minutes per month. Cell phones just don't magically appear. Those free cell phones come from paying cell phone customers. We have to pay for those phones and time through our cell phone bill.
Government healthcare no different. You want a plan that costs half as much as an individual plan before? Somebody has to pay for those plans. Government taxpayers have to pay for those plans. People with individual plans (not on Commie Care) have to pay for those plans. Employers that provide health insurance to their employees have to pay for those plans. Insurance companies do not have a money machine to pay for all those people that have cheaper insurance and preexisting conditions.
When that happens, insurance companies get that money by increasing premiums on people that are not on Commie Care. The result of that is individuals and employers dropping those plans because they are no longer affordable. That's what happened to me and millions of others.
But you didn't even complete the application to get a quote!

Claiming that Obama cost you your health insurance seems a bit bold. It sounds like any change with your existing plan that required you to fill out a form would have also left you lacking insurance as the only thing that kept you from being insured was filling in the application.

Just, wow. The gall of someone who couldn't be bothered finishing an application wanting to blame others.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#28700 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Comprehension problems I see. Not to worry, comprehension problems are very common among liberals. From your article:
"The companies often charge customers to fund their contributions in the form of a universal service fee you might see on your monthly phone bill. The fund is then parceled out to companies, such as América Móvil, that create programs, such as SafeLink, to provide telecommunications service to rural areas and low-income households."
I'm not the idiot that keeps calling it the Obamaphone. You've proved time and time again at using selective memory and comprehension problem as you constantly skip the facts that you don't like. That's an every day occurrence with teabaggers like you. Tell us again how the ACA lost you health insurance when the mandates aren't even in effect and the little company you work for is EXEMPT. Throw us another lie.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#28701 May 24, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> I am Honest enough to point out what is an opinion of mine as compared to stating 'pretend facts' like others.
I don't post B.S. that I know nothing or little about as Fact & that should give me some credibility.
On this particular subject, part of my point was/is that I disagree with the Birthers & I told why. And why I didn't follow all of the 'details'/allegations.
The Birthers made no good sense. Even Sheriff A from Arizona OR Don Trump.
But it was their money & time to waste
If you don't know what the facts are, what possible good does it do for you to post what you think the facts might be? An incorrect statement of facts isn't an opinion.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#28702 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Comprehension problems I see. Don't feel bad, comprehension problems are very common with liberals. So let's try this again:
I lost my healthcare because of DumBama and the Democrats. That's it. I can't make it much simpler than that. If not for DumBama, I would still have healthcare insurance today, and so would the other 6 million that lost their insurance as well.
Liberals have this false belief that money and goodies appear out of nowhere by just voting for it. There is no truth to that. Government doesn't have anything because government doesn't produce anything. Therefore, if government gives you a television set, they first had to take that television from somebody else. Government can't give you something that they don't have.
Government cannot force somebody or some people to give you something they don't have either. Want free government cell phones, then somebody has to pay for those cell phones and 250 anytime minutes per month. Cell phones just don't magically appear. Those free cell phones come from paying cell phone customers. We have to pay for those phones and time through our cell phone bill.
Government healthcare no different. You want a plan that costs half as much as an individual plan before? Somebody has to pay for those plans. Government taxpayers have to pay for those plans. People with individual plans (not on Commie Care) have to pay for those plans. Employers that provide health insurance to their employees have to pay for those plans. Insurance companies do not have a money machine to pay for all those people that have cheaper insurance and preexisting conditions.
When that happens, insurance companies get that money by increasing premiums on people that are not on Commie Care. The result of that is individuals and employers dropping those plans because they are no longer affordable. That's what happened to me and millions of others.
Now explain why your premiums went up every year before the enactment of the ACA. Dumb people believing they are smart is a dangerous thing.

Give educating yourself a try:
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/09/obamacare-my...
Canton

Canton, OH

#28703 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
* George Bush started the Iraq war to get even for his father.
* George Bush got a DUI 20 years before he ran for his first term as President.
* Mitt Romney tied his dog cage to the roof of his car when he went on vacation.
* Mitt Romney forcibly gave a kid a haircut in high school.
* George Bush used cocaine which is why he didn't turn over his medical records.
* George Bush was AWOL from his military service.
Anything else you would like? How about the several books written against GW? Or what about a cartoon show about GW? How about a million dollar internet site against GW? A video game of GW where the object was to shoot and kill him?
Those are known as documented facts. Now give us a few George Bush MIGHT have had a DUI. Give us a couple "Some folks are saying..." You know. Typical sleazeball GOP Fox News stuff. Also, why did we go to war in Iraq? That free war that no one will ever have to pay for.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#28704 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Comprehension problems I see. Not to worry, comprehension problems are very common among liberals. From your article:
"The companies often charge customers to fund their contributions in the form of a universal service fee you might see on your monthly phone bill. The fund is then parceled out to companies, such as América Móvil, that create programs, such as SafeLink, to provide telecommunications service to rural areas and low-income households."
Thanks Obama!

"The president has no direct impact on the program, and one could hardly call these devices "Obama Phones," as the e-mail author does. This specific program, SafeLink, started under President George Bush, with grants from an independent company created under President Bill Clinton, which was a legacy of an act passed under President Franklin Roosevelt, which was influenced by an agreement reached between telecommunications companies and the administration of President Woodrow Wilson."
xxxrayted

Berea, OH

#28705 May 24, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are known as documented facts. Now give us a few George Bush MIGHT have had a DUI. Give us a couple "Some folks are saying..." You know. Typical sleazeball GOP Fox News stuff. Also, why did we go to war in Iraq? That free war that no one will ever have to pay for.
Oh, it's documented facts you're worried about:

Hillary Clinton's latest health update -- cerebral venous thrombosis -- is a rare and potentially "life-threatening" condition, according to medical experts, but one from which the globe-trotting secretary of state is likely to recover from.

In an update from her doctors, Clinton's brain scans revealed a clot had formed in the right transverse venous sinus, and she was being successfully treated with anticoagulants.

"She is lucky being Hillary Clinton and had a follow-up MRI -- lucky that her team thought to do it," said Dr. Brian D. Greenwald, medical director at JFK Johnson Rehabilitation Center for Head Injuries. "It could have potentially serious complications."

The backup of blood flow could have caused a stroke or hemorrhage, according to Greenwald.

"Imagine this vein, where all the cerebral spinal fluid inside the head and spine no longer flows through this area," he said. "You get a big back up and that itself could cause a stroke. In the long-term … the venous system can't get the blood out of the brain. It's like a Lincoln Tunnel back up."

A transverse sinus thrombosis is a clot arising in one of the major veins that drains the brain. It is an uncommon but serious disorder.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/hillary-clinton-...
xxxrayted

Berea, OH

#28707 May 24, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not the idiot that keeps calling it the Obamaphone. You've proved time and time again at using selective memory and comprehension problem as you constantly skip the facts that you don't like.
And your liberal mind puts things in there that are not so.
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Government cannot force somebody or some people to give you something they don't have either. Want free government cell phones, then somebody has to pay for those cell phones and 250 anytime minutes per month. Cell phones just don't magically appear. Those free cell phones come from paying cell phone customers. We have to pay for those phones and time through our cell phone bill.
Now where do you see ObamaPhone in this post?
xxxrayted

Berea, OH

#28708 May 24, 2014
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>
But you didn't even complete the application to get a quote!
Claiming that Obama cost you your health insurance seems a bit bold. It sounds like any change with your existing plan that required you to fill out a form would have also left you lacking insurance as the only thing that kept you from being insured was filling in the application.
Just, wow. The gall of someone who couldn't be bothered finishing an application wanting to blame others.
Maybe it's because you don't know WTF you're talking about. When you go to the site, it gives you a list of plans. You choose a plan you are interested in, fill out some preliminary questions such as your income, and it quotes you a price without applying for anything. Also, many of the plans are Kaiser. That means I wouldn't get much coverage going to the Cleveland Clinic where I've been treated since a baby. Kaiser wants you to use their facilities rather than them paying somebody else.

Once you do apply, they adjust the premium to the exact dollar amount; something I didn't do. But it will only be larger than the quoted price and not smaller. The base price for a really crappy plan with a $6,500 deductible was $270.00 a month and it doesn't cover anything. The next plan up was $450.00, and that too had a $1,800 deductible. The better plans cost more than $600.00 per month, and still, I may not be able to keep my doctor or health facility.
xxxrayted

Berea, OH

#28709 May 24, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>As per the Benefits Pro article- Employers with less than 50 employees are EXEMPT. The other mandates are delayed also. Another lie shot down.
Boy Toy, you really have a bad habit of reading things that are not there. Where did I say my company was under the employer mandate? We have way less than 50 people, but companies that fall under the employer mandate will be affected. Why do you think DumBama postponed the employer mandate? Because it was going to help business? Why until after the next election?
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#28710 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
And your liberal mind puts things in there that are not so.
<quoted text>
Now where do you see ObamaPhone in this post?
You have got to be kidding me. If you weren't talking about "Obamaphones", then why don't you share with us what an "Obamaphone" is?
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#28711 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe it's because you don't know WTF you're talking about. When you go to the site, it gives you a list of plans. You choose a plan you are interested in, fill out some preliminary questions such as your income, and it quotes you a price without applying for anything. Also, many of the plans are Kaiser. That means I wouldn't get much coverage going to the Cleveland Clinic where I've been treated since a baby. Kaiser wants you to use their facilities rather than them paying somebody else.
Once you do apply, they adjust the premium to the exact dollar amount; something I didn't do. But it will only be larger than the quoted price and not smaller. The base price for a really crappy plan with a $6,500 deductible was $270.00 a month and it doesn't cover anything. The next plan up was $450.00, and that too had a $1,800 deductible. The better plans cost more than $600.00 per month, and still, I may not be able to keep my doctor or health facility.
Your boss was a real dick for dumping you. You are a real rube for believing it was because of Obama and not because of your boss and your insurance company.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#28712 May 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe it's because you don't know WTF you're talking about. When you go to the site, it gives you a list of plans. You choose a plan you are interested in, fill out some preliminary questions such as your income, and it quotes you a price without applying for anything. Also, many of the plans are Kaiser. That means I wouldn't get much coverage going to the Cleveland Clinic where I've been treated since a baby. Kaiser wants you to use their facilities rather than them paying somebody else.
Once you do apply, they adjust the premium to the exact dollar amount; something I didn't do. But it will only be larger than the quoted price and not smaller. The base price for a really crappy plan with a $6,500 deductible was $270.00 a month and it doesn't cover anything. The next plan up was $450.00, and that too had a $1,800 deductible. The better plans cost more than $600.00 per month, and still, I may not be able to keep my doctor or health facility.
So you never got a complete quote, couldn't be bothered to follow through with it and you're not willing to change anything or make any effort to keep essential services?

Thanks, Obama! You've clearly ruined this young go getter. He could have made something of his life if only you didn't demand absurd things like filling out an application to participate in programs.

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Let me guess, everything in your life that doesn't work out for you is someone else's fault? And everything that did is your own skill and drive?

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