William and Mary student raped near c...

William and Mary student raped near campus

There are 70 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Apr 29, 2008, titled William and Mary student raped near campus. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

A College of William and Mary student reported Monday that she was raped last week, and police are looking for a man suspected in the attack, officials said.

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hmmmm

Hustle, VA

#1 Apr 29, 2008
It's a tragedy that this woman was raped, but her whole story just ain't gellin'. There is something wrong here.
Yup

Virginia Beach, VA

#2 Apr 29, 2008
hmmmm wrote:
It's a tragedy that this woman was raped, but her whole story just ain't gellin'. There is something wrong here.
What part of her story don't you believe? Sounds perfectly plausible to me - that she'd be offered a ride and in the dark think it was someone she knew. So what part don't you think is "gellin'"?
David Garcia

Hampton, VA

#3 Apr 29, 2008
hmmmm wrote:
It's a tragedy that this woman was raped, but her whole story just ain't gellin'. There is something wrong here.
Where do we get such astute idiots. Blame the victim seems to work in the gateway to Appalachia but not out here.
Irritated

Norfolk, VA

#4 Apr 29, 2008
yeah something seems wrong in her story. she waited an entire week to report what had happened? and to go to the dr? How do you get in car with someone you THINK you know?
THJ

United States

#5 Apr 29, 2008
No doubt the rapist attended Gene Nichols "How to do sex show". The tragedy is the girl was raped. Something that she will have to live with for her entire life.
Clarice Starling

United States

#6 Apr 29, 2008
Yup wrote:
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What part of her story don't you believe? Sounds perfectly plausible to me - that she'd be offered a ride and in the dark think it was someone she knew. So what part don't you think is "gellin'"?
Why did she wait from Tuesday 4/22 until Monday 4/28 to report it? Sad this happened but victim needs to report it right away.
Gil Grissom

Virginia Beach, VA

#7 Apr 29, 2008
Clarice Starling wrote:
<quoted text> Why did she wait from Tuesday 4/22 until Monday 4/28 to report it? Sad this happened but victim needs to report it right away.
Having never been raped myself, I can't say what she was thinking that took her a week to report the incident. But knowing how traumatic an event it is, I can understand how it might. You don't know this girl, you don't know what kind of person she is. You can't doubt her story without KNOWING the whole story. Thank goodness you're not on this case, Agent Starling. I prefer to hold my judgement until all the facts are in.
Heather

Newport News, VA

#8 Apr 29, 2008
I agree the story doesn't quite convince me. "Studying at 3-4 am", "thinking that she recognized him"...it really sounds like she was drinking and her judgement was off. I'm not sure about this one. I hope that I eat my words. Nevertheless, it is a very sad thing that she went through this. I pray that she is able to find the stregth to make it through.
chev chelios

Moseley, VA

#9 Apr 29, 2008
Gil Grissom wrote:
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Having never been raped myself, I can't say what she was thinking that took her a week to report the incident. But knowing how traumatic an event it is, I can understand how it might. You don't know this girl, you don't know what kind of person she is. You can't doubt her story without KNOWING the whole story. Thank goodness you're not on this case, Agent Starling. I prefer to hold my judgement until all the facts are in.
PS you don't know this girl either
Chet

Norfolk, VA

#10 Apr 29, 2008
Here is how the story should have read:

William and Mary student PREVENTED rape near campus

The man reportedly drove to a parking lot and attempted to rape the young female. Realizing this was a life or death situation, the adult student drew her lawfully carried firearm and shot the rapist dead.

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Where were your police W&M Police Chief Don Challis? Sleep well tonight knowing full well that YOU have actively worked to PREVENT adult students from protecting themselves.

The Commonwealth of Virginia and it's citizens trust adults to lawfully carry firearm everywhere INCLUDING the campus of William & Mary. It is only school policy that prevents students and staff from carrying on college property.

If an adult student lawfully carried a concealed firearm on campus and were caught they would face nothing more than expulsion - they would not be in violation of any state law.

How many more rapes, robberies, and murders will it take for you to change your mind Chief? How many...

You know deep down inside you have never prevented a single one but you sure as hell can write some traffic tickets!
ol school

Somerville, VA

#11 Apr 29, 2008
Truth is that most sexual assaults, particularly rape, go unreported. Women have said that they do not want to have to face their rapist again in court and have to relive the nightmare and suffer the humiliation all over again. I was living in Williamsburg in the mid-70's and during that time there were a series of rapes on the W&M campus. I came to know one of these young ladies through our working together, and I can tell you that the trauma she experienced while being forces into a car a gunpoint and then raped ruined her life. She never overcame the psychological damage inflicted on her by rapist.
Willow Oakie

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#12 Apr 29, 2008
Chet wrote:
Here is how the story should have read:
William and Mary student PREVENTED rape near campus
The man reportedly drove to a parking lot and attempted to rape the young female. Realizing this was a life or death situation, the adult student drew her lawfully carried firearm and shot the rapist dead.
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Where were your police W&M Police Chief Don Challis? Sleep well tonight knowing full well that YOU have actively worked to PREVENT adult students from protecting themselves.
The Commonwealth of Virginia and it's citizens trust adults to lawfully carry firearm everywhere INCLUDING the campus of William & Mary. It is only school policy that prevents students and staff from carrying on college property.
If an adult student lawfully carried a concealed firearm on campus and were caught they would face nothing more than expulsion - they would not be in violation of any state law.
How many more rapes, robberies, and murders will it take for you to change your mind Chief? How many...
You know deep down inside you have never prevented a single one but you sure as hell can write some traffic tickets!
Wow, you gun nuts never quit. You can take any tragedy and turn it into another tawdry attempt at bringing back a Wild West that only existed in the movies.

The dynamics of a college campus just don't mix well with the notion of everyone running around armed to the max. You say it will prevent crime on campus, and potentially save people who might be in jeopardy. The odds are that it will increase crime, especially when you mix in fragile relationships and the arguments and breakups that come with so many of them and then add alcohol on top of it.

For many, the years on a college campus are the last little piece of innocence left before the ugly real world invades. Sometimes, tragedies like this happen. However, it is insane to suggest compounding the problem.

Maybe you should stop letting the axe-grinders on the radio spoon-feed ideas into your head, and stop repeating the dogma that is doled out to you in the form of "simple ideas for simple people", and come up with a few original, and, dare I say... sane thoughts.
Pat Henry

Virginia Beach, VA

#13 Apr 29, 2008
Willow Oakie wrote:
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Wow, you gun nuts never quit. You can take any tragedy and turn it into another tawdry attempt at bringing back a Wild West that only existed in the movies.
The dynamics of a college campus just don't mix well with the notion of everyone running around armed to the max. You say it will prevent crime on campus, and potentially save people who might be in jeopardy. The odds are that it will increase crime, especially when you mix in fragile relationships and the arguments and breakups that come with so many of them and then add alcohol on top of it.
For many, the years on a college campus are the last little piece of innocence left before the ugly real world invades. Sometimes, tragedies like this happen. However, it is insane to suggest compounding the problem.
Maybe you should stop letting the axe-grinders on the radio spoon-feed ideas into your head, and stop repeating the dogma that is doled out to you in the form of "simple ideas for simple people", and come up with a few original, and, dare I say... sane thoughts.
clueless... you don't comprehend, can never comprehend until it occurs to you.
Gun Crazy

Yorktown, VA

#14 Apr 29, 2008
Chet wrote:
Here is how the story should have read:
William and Mary student PREVENTED rape near campus
The man reportedly drove to a parking lot and attempted to rape the young female. Realizing this was a life or death situation, the adult student drew her lawfully carried firearm and shot the rapist dead.
----------
Where were your police W&M Police Chief Don Challis? Sleep well tonight knowing full well that YOU have actively worked to PREVENT adult students from protecting themselves.
The Commonwealth of Virginia and it's citizens trust adults to lawfully carry firearm everywhere INCLUDING the campus of William & Mary. It is only school policy that prevents students and staff from carrying on college property.
If an adult student lawfully carried a concealed firearm on campus and were caught they would face nothing more than expulsion - they would not be in violation of any state law.
How many more rapes, robberies, and murders will it take for you to change your mind Chief? How many...
You know deep down inside you have never prevented a single one but you sure as hell can write some traffic tickets!
Is that all you have to say on every forum? Carry a gun, carry a gun!! We all know you don't even pee without being armed but it doesn't mean everyone feels that way. And yes, I do own a gun but I don't feel a need to preach ot everyone that they should.
Yeah that would be smart

Yorktown, VA

#15 Apr 29, 2008
Chet wrote:
Here is how the story should have read:
William and Mary student PREVENTED rape near campus
The man reportedly drove to a parking lot and attempted to rape the young female. Realizing this was a life or death situation, the adult student drew her lawfully carried firearm and shot the rapist dead.
----------
Where were your police W&M Police Chief Don Challis? Sleep well tonight knowing full well that YOU have actively worked to PREVENT adult students from protecting themselves.
The Commonwealth of Virginia and it's citizens trust adults to lawfully carry firearm everywhere INCLUDING the campus of William & Mary. It is only school policy that prevents students and staff from carrying on college property.
If an adult student lawfully carried a concealed firearm on campus and were caught they would face nothing more than expulsion - they would not be in violation of any state law.
How many more rapes, robberies, and murders will it take for you to change your mind Chief? How many...
You know deep down inside you have never prevented a single one but you sure as hell can write some traffic tickets!
Yes, let's allow 18-25 year olds tote guns around to frat parties etc. Trouble waiting to happen. Yes, some are mature and responsible enough but in that setting I'd say the majority shouldn't be packing. Alcohol, stress, college romance drama..........
Pat Henry

Virginia Beach, VA

#16 Apr 29, 2008
Yeah that would be smart wrote:
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Yes, let's allow 18-25 year olds tote guns around to frat parties etc. Trouble waiting to happen. Yes, some are mature and responsible enough but in that setting I'd say the majority shouldn't be packing. Alcohol, stress, college romance drama..........
clueless
Pat Henry

Virginia Beach, VA

#17 Apr 29, 2008
Gun Crazy wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that all you have to say on every forum? Carry a gun, carry a gun!! We all know you don't even pee without being armed but it doesn't mean everyone feels that way. And yes, I do own a gun but I don't feel a need to preach ot everyone that they should.
semi-clueless
Clarice Starling

United States

#18 Apr 29, 2008
Gil Grissom wrote:
<quoted text>
Having never been raped myself, I can't say what she was thinking that took her a week to report the incident. But knowing how traumatic an event it is, I can understand how it might. You don't know this girl, you don't know what kind of person she is. You can't doubt her story without KNOWING the whole story. Thank goodness you're not on this case, Agent Starling. I prefer to hold my judgement until all the facts are in.
Forencics are not concluded in a hour like your CSI show predicts. I am a woman and you will never know what my previous circumstances were. I am not judging this woman. It is a travesty what happened. I use behavior as a tool. That determines a lot. I am quite sure this young lady is very intelligent so that should help her make decisions that other young women of her age would not necessarily possess. Time is of the essence with a crime of this nature. So please, do not belittle my thoughts. They are of a inquisitive nature as opposed to a condecending one. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas..Right Gil?
College Kid

Newport News, VA

#19 Apr 29, 2008
Chet wrote:
Here is how the story should have read:
William and Mary student PREVENTED rape near campus
The man reportedly drove to a parking lot and attempted to rape the young female. Realizing this was a life or death situation, the adult student drew her lawfully carried firearm and shot the rapist dead.
----------
Where were your police W&M Police Chief Don Challis? Sleep well tonight knowing full well that YOU have actively worked to PREVENT adult students from protecting themselves.
The Commonwealth of Virginia and it's citizens trust adults to lawfully carry firearm everywhere INCLUDING the campus of William & Mary. It is only school policy that prevents students and staff from carrying on college property.
If an adult student lawfully carried a concealed firearm on campus and were caught they would face nothing more than expulsion - they would not be in violation of any state law.
How many more rapes, robberies, and murders will it take for you to change your mind Chief? How many...
You know deep down inside you have never prevented a single one but you sure as hell can write some traffic tickets!
You are making several assumptions that a concealed weapon would have stopped the rape:

1. The victim was 21 years old or over (she has to be 21 to carry, the article didn't menition her age). If she is under 21, being able to carry a weapon wouldn't have made a difference.

2. Assuming it was legal, she would even carry a gun. She had no other legal weapons - mace, stick, taser, etc. If she doesn't carry what she currently is allowed to carry legally, I doubt she would have had a gun with her.

Allowing concealed carry on campus probably would have not prevented this attack. But then again if students started carrying concealed, maybe these attackers wouldn't look at college students as such soft targets.

If I was a criminal, I would surely go where I knew my victims were going to be unarmed.
Det Friday

Candler, NC

#20 Apr 29, 2008
hmmmm wrote:
It's a tragedy that this woman was raped, but her whole story just ain't gellin'. There is something wrong here.
I'd check out the women's field hockey team. maybe it was one of them.

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