If a teacher sees students fighting, ...

If a teacher sees students fighting, what should they do?

Created by Brown Eyed Teacher on Aug 8, 2012

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Walk away, quickly.

Try to break the fight up

Call the school police officer

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History Teacher

Richmond, KY

#1 Aug 8, 2012
I will leave quick and say, "boys will be boys" or girls, if it may be the case. I figure the general public dont give a rats azzz about me any way.
DONT CALL SCHOOL POLICE

Richmond, KY

#2 Aug 9, 2012
Why would you call the school police/safety officer? He obviously was of no help when the two boys killed Mr. Bunch.

Since: Jun 11

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#3 Aug 9, 2012
I will say based on recent events, let them have at it.
Ditto

Richmond, KY

#4 Aug 9, 2012
Answering Machine wrote:
I will say based on recent events, let them have at it.
i agree 100% I wonder if one of the little punks got hurt or killed like Mr. bunch did if the judge would give the teacher a slap on the wrist? I bet the teacher would serve time, lose their certification, be liable to the families, etc. I know my teacher friends have said they will never again try to break up fights and frankly, I dont blame them. This whole episode just shows how little the judge respected a teacher and a state representative's life.
Teacher in Training

Corbin, KY

#5 Aug 9, 2012
I wouldn't do anything. Apparently kids can kill teachers without any serious consequences. My husband is a high school teacher, and I don't want him anywhere near these angry teenagers during a fight. Personally, I think the punishment for fighting in school should be far more severe now, so maybe there won't be as many.
I agree

Corbin, KY

#6 Aug 9, 2012
Kids fight all the time in my school. It's becuz they just get suspended for a few days (big punishment, 3 free days off school). The kids that r dumb enough to fight don't care about the effect suspension has on their grades anyway. So really, how are they being punished? I think a night in jail should be the punishment for high school fighters. A real slap on their legal records, instead of their wrists, would prolly prevent more fights.
Run For Your Life

Wartburg, TN

#7 Aug 10, 2012
If you are a teacher run like hell and don't look back. It is better that they kill each other than you being the one to lose your life.

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE !!!
Jeff Boomhauer

Williamsburg, KY

#8 Aug 10, 2012
People! Stop blaming the judge in this case. His hands were tied! These kids did NOT COMMIT MURDER! Murder requires INTENT. Their reckless actions caused Mr. Bunch's death. Reckless Homicide in Kentucky is a Class D felony which carries a minimum/maximum sentence of 1 to 5 years for ADULTS! These were juveniles and they couldn't be charged as adults for a Class D felony. This judge acted in accordance with the law which is his JOB! If he had sentenced them any more harshly, they would have been overturned on appeal.

It may not be right but it's the law.

To answer this thread's question... we should all do what our conscience tells us to do. If you can stand by and watch two kids physically damage each other, then fine. Live with that cowardice.

Mr. Bunch gave his life trying to protect these two boys from each other. Had he not intervened, maybe one of the kids would have fallen and hit HIS head and died. I don't understand how any of you can say you would stand by and watch something like this happen. But then again, you're not all as brave as Dwayne Bunch, are you?

As William Shakespeare wrote in "Julius Ceasar,"
"Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Since: Jun 11

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#9 Aug 10, 2012
All of these "slap on the wrist" penalties is what is wrong with society today.
problem

Williamsburg, KY

#10 Aug 10, 2012
I have broken up many fights and will continue to do so. The problem I have is that if in the process of breaking up a fight, you happen to bruise 1 of the kids, you will be sued. That's why we have to spend time and money training teachers on non-aggressive holds, etc. There is no doubt that if 1 of thouse kids was hurt, or God forbid killed, Mr. Bunch would have sued. So, since the judge followed the law, is the Bunch family allowed to file civil suit against these boys? Because as I said, if the outcome was reversed, litigation would ensue. Heck, I've had kids try to bait me into physically contacting them knwoing that their ultimate goal was $$$. Our litigous society, created by lawyers that advertise "you don't have to pay us a cent, we'll just keep 40% of what we get for you," and perpetuated by lazy people that don't believe that you should have to work and earn your money...The billboards, the ads on TV, the lazy that just want to sit back, make babies, and draw a check. We educators, and other professions, always have the fear of a law suit in the back of our minds. disgusting.
Really

Corbin, KY

#11 Aug 11, 2012
Jeff Boomhauer wrote:
People! Stop blaming the judge in this case. His hands were Atied! These kids did NOT COMMIT MURDER! Murder requires INTENT. Their reckless actions caused Mr. Bunch's death. Reckless Homicide in Kentucky is a Class D felony which carries a minimum/maximum sentence of 1 to 5 years for ADULTS! These were juveniles and they couldn't be charged as adults for a Class D felony. This judge acted in accordance with the law which is his JOB! If he had sentenced them any more harshly, they would have been overturned on appeal.
It may not be right but it's the law.
To answer this thread's question... we should all do what our conscience tells us to do. If you can stand by and watch two kids physically damage each other, then fine. Live with that cowardice.
Mr. Bunch gave his life trying to protect these two boys from each other. Had he not intervened, maybe one of the kids would have fallen and hit HIS head and died. I don't understand how any of you can say you would stand by and watch something like this happen. But then again, you're not all as brave as Dwayne Bunch, are you?
As William Shakespeare wrote in "Julius Ceasar,"
"Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once."
I understand your point. But reckless homicide, what the boys were charged with, is still in fact, homicide. Homicide as in murder. It was by their hands and actions that a teacher/war vet/state rep is dead. If the kids didn't want anyone to be hurt or possibly kids, then they should have not been physically fighting.

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#12 Aug 12, 2012
Really wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand your point. But reckless homicide, what the boys were charged with, is still in fact, homicide. Homicide as in murder. It was by their hands and actions that a teacher/war vet/state rep is dead. If the kids didn't want anyone to be hurt or possibly kids, then they should have not been physically fighting.
100% correct
TRUE

Wartburg, TN

#13 Aug 12, 2012
Really wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand your point. But reckless homicide, what the boys were charged with, is still in fact, homicide. Homicide as in murder. It was by their hands and actions that a teacher/war vet/state rep is dead. If the kids didn't want anyone to be hurt or possibly kids, then they should have not been physically fighting.
Thank You ! I agree 100%.
blah

Ripley, TN

#14 Aug 13, 2012
fighting in school has been going on since the begining of schools, Mr. Bunch was A fine man nobody can argue any differant but what happend was A freak accident yes caused by those kids actions but the key word here is kids it is very sad but they should still be treated as kids.It is our governments fault children are getting out of hand many parents who try to raise there kids to know how to act end up spending there life savings just to stay out of jail on crumped up child abuse charges people now days want to put parents in jail for disciplining there kids but when the kids are raised with out discipline you want to destroy there life when they mess up. these boys have to live with what happend if Dewayne Bunch was the kind of man I beleived him to be he would not want those boys lives destroyed.
agree with part

Middlesboro, KY

#15 Aug 13, 2012
I agree with part of the post of "blah"-the part about Dewayne being a good man and this being a freak accident, also that Dewayne would not want these boys' lives destroyed. I hope they have had to do lots of community service, getting counselling related to anger management, and that they will be on probation for a long time. The law was followed in their sentencing on involuntary homocide, and they will have to live with what they have done the rest of their lives. Hopefully they will learn from it and go on to live productive lives. The part I don't agree with is that it's the government's fault that children are so out of control. My opinion on that is-the parents are at fault, and many times the home environment is just as chaotic and the kids have no better example to follow. Charges are not often trumped up felated to child abuse. Abuse and discipline are two completely different things, and good parenting skills are something lacking in so many families today. The ultimate fault lies with the boys who made a poor decision to fight that morning, probably to "save face" because that is what they knew (and the only way they knew) to solve problems.
CAN NOT AGREE

Middlesboro, KY

#16 Aug 13, 2012
agree with part wrote:
I agree with part of the post of "blah"-the part about Dewayne being a good man and this being a freak accident, also that Dewayne would not want these boys' lives destroyed. I hope they have had to do lots of community service, getting counselling related to anger management, and that they will be on probation for a long time. The law was followed in their sentencing on involuntary homocide, and they will have to live with what they have done the rest of their lives. Hopefully they will learn from it and go on to live productive lives. The part I don't agree with is that it's the government's fault that children are so out of control. My opinion on that is-the parents are at fault, and many times the home environment is just as chaotic and the kids have no better example to follow. Charges are not often trumped up felated to child abuse. Abuse and discipline are two completely different things, and good parenting skills are something lacking in so many families today. The ultimate fault lies with the boys who made a poor decision to fight that morning, probably to "save face" because that is what they knew (and the only way they knew) to solve problems.
The fact that these two young men have to live with this for the rest of their lives would be enough for Dewayne's family if the death of their loved one affected these young men at all! The Canada boy doesn't care what so ever---that is more than obvious by his cockiness in the court room. The fact is, if he has no remorse for committing wreckless homicide, do you think he is going to think twice about committing other violent crimes---that would be NO! He will not be on the streets for long. This young man you all keep referring to as a kid will be 18 in less than a month and you can bet your bottom dollar some other family will have their lives destroyed by his actions and when that happens he won't be able to hide behind his age.
Both

Paris, KY

#17 Aug 14, 2012
I walk away. Let them have at it!
wowser

Williamsburg, KY

#18 Aug 15, 2012
Give me a freakin' break already! WC has how many elementary schools, plus the middle school, I guess the majority of the teachers working there are "scared to break up a fight" LOL

A HUGE part of a teacher's job is maintaining order and discipline to provide a SAFE environment for learning. IF you can't handle your job step aside and find a "safer job" or career. You'll be history anyway IF you really just walk away , may as well toss in the towel now.

ONE tragic accident and even though tens of thousands of fights have been broken up by school personnel over many decades without incident some act like doing their job is now a "death sentence"
Although perhaps it needs saying to stay off tables when hurrying to break up a fight in the lunch area, it's not like "every fight" that ever went on in school had any similar results.
seen it believe it

Chicago, IL

#19 Aug 16, 2012
Those fights never last long as long as its fists let em go
Both

Paris, KY

#20 Aug 16, 2012
I will not see it or i was scared for my life. That's my plan... Union will take care of it.

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