Why is the cure to cancer illegal?

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Quote-"The Guzman study is very important according to Dr. Ethan Russo , a neurologist and world authority on medical cannabis: "Cancer occurs because cells become immortalized; they fail to heed normal signals to turn off growth. A normal function of remodelling in the body requires that cells die on cue. This is called apoptosis, or programmed cell death. That process fails to work in tumors. THC promotes its reappearance so that gliomas, leukemias, melanomas and other cell types will in fact heed the signals, stop dividing, and die."

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Here is a video that shows the THC killing the cancer cells-

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Kalie

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Here is another video that shows THC killing cancer cells-

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Without even having to read that it has something to do with thc and all that jazz, I can give you the obvious answer. Pharmaceutical companies don't make money on cures, just treatments to keep you alive longer. If your cured, you won't be paying them to keep you alive.

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The original reason was to get back at Americans, for daring to change the alcohol back to regulation vs. prohibition. Add a couple of severe racists to that train of thought, and poof - A natural recurring plant that used to be currency here is no illegal.

Now, Punnchy pretty much sums it up. We can't have big pharma not making the billions of dollars a year.
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yes thee is a cure for cancer. the drug companys want to keep us all sick.

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To say "The cure to cancer is illegal" is simplistic at best, and flat out wrong at worst. THC has been show to stop the growth of cancer cells sure, but that is far from a cure. The problem with curing cancer has never been stopping cell growth, we know of thousands of ways to do that, the problem is stopping the growth of only certain cells in only certain areas with only a certain frequency, and being able to apply the treatment in a low enough dose that you don't poison the rest of the body.

We all know THC stops cell growth, isn't that what the after school specials have been telling us since we were little? Of course havn't all of the pro-marijuana advocates also been preaching about how THC really isn't very harmful? The reason that THC would make a poor cancer cure is exactly the reason why you can be a regular pot user and not be a total burn-out...because THC can kill cells, but is really shitty at doing it.

If just THC, extracted, purified, and applied clinicaly, cured cancer, then that is what we would be doing. It's not like multiple states don't already allow medical uses of the plant and its derivatives.

And the idea that the evil big bad pharmecutical companies want to keep us all sick is hogwash. Look there are 7 billion people on the planet, there is no risk of these companies running out of sick people to treat. There is no need to conspire in this way.

Not to mention that there are plenty of medical reasearchers out there who get their funding from government grants and liberal universities, not from the pocket of a pharmecutical company. The researcher who discovers an effective cure for cancer is guarenteed a Nobel Prize and their own chapter in the medical history books for eternity. There are plenty of researched who dream of that, and would leap at the chance to make that discovery.
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Mar 20, 2012
 
Check out the cancer therapies that are being employed in Europe. Lemon therapy, etc. etc. Think the FDA would ever allow anything that works to cure cancer in the United States? Yeah, right. It will never happen. The American Cancer Society, the FDA, hospitals, cancer centers, and pharmaceutical companies will never allow it.

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Usually Right wrote:
Check out the cancer therapies that are being employed in Europe. Lemon therapy, etc. etc. Think the FDA would ever allow anything that works to cure cancer in the United States? Yeah, right. It will never happen. The American Cancer Society, the FDA, hospitals, cancer centers, and pharmaceutical companies will never allow it.
Why do you suppose they would never allow it? They allow people to cure their broken limbs. They allow people to cure their colds. They allow people to cure their breaks, burns, scraps, bruises, sprains, and swellings. They allow people to cure their infections, virsus, cysts, and necrosis. They allow people to cure all manner of chronic illness, disorder, defect, and condition.

And oh yeah...they DO allow people to cure cancer. I know we think of cancer as being this terrible blight, but every single day, all over the country, hundreds of people are diagnoses early, and successfuly treated and cured. Sometimes, under the right conditions, these cancer cures can even be relativly simple and easy. There are far more cases of cancer that are caught early, or are benign, and are cured with little trauma, than there are tragic drawn out battles.

So if hospitals cure LOTS AND LOTS of things, including cancer, each and every day...why do you think there is some kind of conspiracy preventing the treatement of only specificialy late stage malignant cancer?(the kind we don't have a good cure for yet)Which isn't even the most common kind of cancer?

What is the incentive? What is the motive?

You are just being baselessly conspiratorial.
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Mar 21, 2012
 
I found Mrs Trish again ,highjacking another thread to talk about her obsession.So as promised I'm taking it back to talk about polygamy.It's every creepy guy's dream,just ask Warren Jeffs.
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Mar 21, 2012
 
i have never heard of pot killing cancer cells. i have seen on t.v doctors injecting the cells and freezing them in one certain spot. this is why people go to other countries for there cure. drug companies do not want a cure for anything ever.
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Mar 21, 2012
 
hensatri wrote:
To say "The cure to cancer is illegal" is simplistic at best, and flat out wrong at worst. THC has been show to stop the growth of cancer cells sure, but that is far from a cure. The problem with curing cancer has never been stopping cell growth, we know of thousands of ways to do that, the problem is stopping the growth of only certain cells in only certain areas with only a certain frequency, and being able to apply the treatment in a low enough dose that you don't poison the rest of the body.
We all know THC stops cell growth, isn't that what the after school specials have been telling us since we were little? Of course havn't all of the pro-marijuana advocates also been preaching about how THC really isn't very harmful? The reason that THC would make a poor cancer cure is exactly the reason why you can be a regular pot user and not be a total burn-out...because THC can kill cells, but is really shitty at doing it.
If just THC, extracted, purified, and applied clinicaly, cured cancer, then that is what we would be doing. It's not like multiple states don't already allow medical uses of the plant and its derivatives.
And the idea that the evil big bad pharmecutical companies want to keep us all sick is hogwash. Look there are 7 billion people on the planet, there is no risk of these companies running out of sick people to treat. There is no need to conspire in this way.
Not to mention that there are plenty of medical reasearchers out there who get their funding from government grants and liberal universities, not from the pocket of a pharmecutical company. The researcher who discovers an effective cure for cancer is guarenteed a Nobel Prize and their own chapter in the medical history books for eternity. There are plenty of researched who dream of that, and would leap at the chance to make that discovery.
You seem really intelligent, might want to actually study up, beyond those afternoon specials. Start with the cannaboid system. Move on to the lung cancer study showing that cannabis doesn't cause cancer. Fact is, in some cancers, thc keeps the cancer cells from eating, without the horrible side effects of chemo and radiation. If they would relax the laws in schedule one drugs allowing open testing, we might just have the cure. Problem is the federal govt is hogtied by its own rules. Once a study comes out showing that cannabis has a medical use, they by law, cannot allow anymore studies. PS- thc killing cells is reefer madness.
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Mar 21, 2012
 
hillbilly wrote:
I found Mrs Trish again ,highjacking another thread to talk about her obsession.So as promised I'm taking it back to talk about polygamy.It's every creepy guy's dream,just ask Warren Jeffs.
Maybe you need to actually read the thread, before jumping to conclusions. This thread is about cannabis.

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Mrstrish wrote:
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You seem really intelligent, might want to actually study up, beyond those afternoon specials.
Why are people so eager to assume that if somone disagrees with them they must be an idoit who doesn't know anything about the topic?

I am aware of many of the medical benefits of marijuana. My Sister-in-law was on medical pot through the last 6 months of her life as she died of cancer. I support the medical use of any drug or plant derivative, especialy when dealing with something like cancer.

What did I say that gave you any other impression?

What I said was that THC can be used to stop cell growth, but so can lots of things. The problem with cancer treatment has never been halting the growth or replication of cells, but halting the growth and replication of very specific targeted cells, and doing so with a chemical that can be administered in a low enough dose that you don't poison the rest of the body while doing it.

Pot, as we all know, CAN kill cells and halt cell growth, but it takes a shit load of it over a long period of time. THC, compared to many other chemicals, is just not very good at this. If THC was very good at halting cell growth or killing cells, then Pot would be a MUCH more dangerous drug.

Now there are some studies that show THC halting cell growth, but the hurdle in that research is the same hurdle faced when trying to cure cancer with any one of the 20,000 other chemicals we've experimented with: Chemicals have a hard time telling cancer cells from normal cells. If you find a chemical that CAN kill cells, but isn't very potent or dangerous (THC) then it is hard to make it effective without using so much that you poison a person, or run the risk of missing cells. If you find a checmical that is very good at killing cells, then you have a hard time administering it in a way that is focused enough that you wont just kill the patient outright or cause major damage to the rest of them. This is exactly the reason Chemo-Therapy sucks so bad, it damn near kills the rest of the body while trying to kill the cancer.

I feel like I just repeated a lot of what I said earlier...but apparently it got mis-construed the first time.

Medical Marijuana is legal in several states, I don't by the "Damn Govn't and Drug Companies are blocking the cure" arguments. There are enough places where it is perfectly legal to use and research. Not to mention plenty of other countries have no hang ups about Pot at all, and THC isn't the miracle cure to their cancer is it?

This isn't an anti-pot conspiracy. The simple fact is that malignant late stage Cancer is hard to cure, and THC has some potential, but isn't there yet, and just might not be up to the task at all. That is true regardless of what legistaltion says about the material.

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I wasn't trying to be insulting, most medical professionals do not understand how schedule 1 drugs are treated when it comes to finding out if they have medical benefits. It is actually unlawful, for the DEA to attempt to do anything that would help "legalize" them. Research teams have to get permission from them to do studies. Do I think it's some huge conspiracy to keep pharm companies profits secure? Yes, because of who holds the patents on medical cannabis- The Fed Gov't.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser...

I do not know if thc is the cure to cancer, however if given a choice between radiation and chemotherapy, or THC and expecting the same outcome, I would choose THC because the side effects. Fact is, in over 2,500 years of documents recreational use of cannabis, not one person has ever died from it.

http://www.americanindependent.com/175499/fed...
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Mar 22, 2012
 
That would be great! If they would legalize pot for medical purposes, then you could get stoned without breaking the law. Dude!

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MrsTrish wrote:
I wasn't trying to be insulting, most medical professionals do not understand how schedule 1 drugs are treated when it comes to finding out if they have medical benefits. It is actually unlawful, for the DEA to attempt to do anything that would help "legalize" them. Research teams have to get permission from them to do studies. Do I think it's some huge conspiracy to keep pharm companies profits secure? Yes, because of who holds the patents on medical cannabis- The Fed Gov't.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser...
I do not know if thc is the cure to cancer, however if given a choice between radiation and chemotherapy, or THC and expecting the same outcome, I would choose THC because the side effects. Fact is, in over 2,500 years of documents recreational use of cannabis, not one person has ever died from it.
http://www.americanindependent.com/175499/fed...
There is no evidence for the "big pharm keeping us sick" theory. What about the millions of people that are cured or successfully treated for a wide variety of life threatening or chronic illnesses every single day.....every minute...right this second. The fact is that many many medicines and treatments developed by "big evil pharma" do....go figure...cure people. The fact that there are a handful of chronic, difficult or treat, and complex illnesses out that there still stump the medical community is not evidence of a massive conspiracy.

Cancer for example.....far more cases of cancer are successfully treated and cured than cases that lead to prolonged chronic illness. If there was a conspiracy to NOT cure cancer....then explain that?

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Mar 22, 2012
 
There is no evidence for the "big pharm keeping us sick" theory.

Not my claim. I do however, believe the gov't helps big pharma profits by keeping cannabis illegal. Intentional or not, I have no idea.

Again, the federal gov't rules on schedule one drugs, prevent adequate testing of those to see if they have medical value.

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This is baseless conspiracy. You think that cannibals is illegal so that pharmaceutical companies can make money dodging the cures that may be available from the plant?

I agree that our government isn't that friendly towards cannibals, although it is permitted for several uses, but nine of that has anything to do with pay offs and bed-mating with big pharma.

Our nations history with that drug is a storied one, but has nothing to do with Pizer. Pizer didn't even exist back when pot was vilified.

What the hell are you talking about?

And, again, there is a LOT of medical marijuana use in different states. It's not as universal as maybe it ought to be, but we are moving in a pot- friendly direction as a culture, and the medical benefits of the plant were at the forefront of that change.
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Mar 22, 2012
 
I do not know if it is intentional or not, but it is what it is. That leads to the conspiracy theories if today.
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Mar 26, 2012
 
This video explains how marijuana kills cancer cells and protects healthy cells. A doctor explains it for you, just listen and learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch... #!

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