Crown Hill prospect: Under roof or sky?

A bitter fight between developers and conservationists comes to a head today, as city officials gather to vote on the fate of one of Marion County's last remaining undeveloped chunks of land. Full Story
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Nunc pro tunc

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Mar 21, 2007
Drive two blocks east or north and determine for yourself if the area needs more tax paying property. Neither Butler nor IMA pay property taxes so they don't support the urban infrastructure necessary for their very existence. Butler just finished building student housing on wonderful empty land. Talk about hypocrisy. IMA has basically paved over most of what's east of it's main building.

These negative comments are the height of arrogance by Butler and IMA.
Woman Scorned

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Mar 21, 2007
Joe Smith sounds like an ex wife to me.
Dont Tread on Me

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Mar 21, 2007
Does CTS pay property taxes for that God awful ugly building of theirs?
joe smith

United States

#5 Mar 21, 2007
Woman Scorned wrote:
Joe Smith sounds like an ex wife to me.
Get a life you bum.
Robert Anderson

Belle Vernon, PA

#6 Mar 21, 2007
The Crown Hill property is special and a delight to the eyes. The strip mall is a "no" in that residential neighborhood.
The developers might study some of the inbuilding that has taken place on some of the DuPont family lands outside Wilmington, Delaware. Applecroft was put on inbuilt land on a DuPont family estate. It was built with environmental sensitivity and each home fits the contours of the land with minimal disturbance to woodland, trees, etc. It was not a typical "subdivision" with money as the goal.
If the cemetary built fewer, but more prestigious and "green" perhaps the bottom line could be maintained. The resulting homes would be in demand because of the statement they make and the quality of life in a natural setting.
Dr. Robert Charles Anderson
Lawrence
Jim

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Mar 21, 2007
I sounds like a good deal to me, build more home so more people will fill our streets & cause more traffic jams.
VOTE FOR THE PLAN

Lebanon, IN

#8 Mar 21, 2007
I agree, this would give much needed help to this area.
Nunc pro tunc wrote:
Drive two blocks east or north and determine for yourself if the area needs more tax paying property. Neither Butler nor IMA pay property taxes so they don't support the urban infrastructure necessary for their very existence. Butler just finished building student housing on wonderful empty land. Talk about hypocrisy. IMA has basically paved over most of what's east of it's main building.
These negative comments are the height of arrogance by Butler and IMA.
fwc

Michigan City, IN

#9 Mar 21, 2007
Hopefully the "endowment" will purchase the land. I enjoy that area when driving through the campus onto Michigan Rd. I am not connected at all with Butler, but there is NO comparision to the land that Butler used for dorms near the football field and this piece of property. Mann, go elsewhere to built, keep this place untouched by tearing down yet another stand of trees. Some of the same has happened in Broad Ripple and it is time to stop.
Stuck at 38th and MLK

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Mar 21, 2007
Josephine, is that you?
more dense housing

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Mar 21, 2007
Just what Indy needs. Take a look around . This is just another piece of high density crap that will probably get rubber stamped by the MDC.
logical thinking

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Mar 21, 2007
They could not find enough people who wanted to live in the MSA sight so why more housing on this beautiful piece of land? There is no way to save the wetlands if you build anything in that area. Its impossible and anyone who says different is lying. Plenty of areas where there is already housing that could be fixed up. Keep the space green and I mean natural not money green.
Childhood memories

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Mar 21, 2007
fwc wrote:
Hopefully the "endowment" will purchase the land. I enjoy that area when driving through the campus onto Michigan Rd. I am not connected at all with Butler, but there is NO comparision to the land that Butler used for dorms near the football field and this piece of property. Mann, go elsewhere to built, keep this place untouched by tearing down yet another stand of trees. Some of the same has happened in Broad Ripple and it is time to stop.
No comparison to the now departed but famous "Butler Hill"?
Nayrb

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Mar 21, 2007
I'm really split on this. If it were not a strip mall (maybe buildings fronting the street with parking behind) and they actually connected to and respected the urban grid street system, then I'd be much more for it. Curvilinear streets and strip malls don't make much sense when they're plopped right in the middle of a good urban street grid.
Kablammy

United States

#16 Mar 21, 2007
Bart Peterson is throwing huge money at the 38th street corridor by improving the streets and trying to lure more businesses into the 38th & Meridian area. Why build a development that would directly compete with that area? It is hard enough to try to get businesses down there but if prospective businesses have a closer geographic alternative I think they would choose the new development. If the city is really concerned about tax income then why don't they drive around Indianapolis and look at the dozens of abandoned shopping centers that are generating little or no tax revenue. Why not do something with those properties before you mow down a 200 year old stand of trees to build a new one?
ARB

Westland, MI

#17 Mar 21, 2007
Why do these idiot developers insist on covering everything with black top or concrete! That area does not need more buildings, turn it into a nature park and let the tree's make oxygen for us instead of $$$$$ for the developers and those in his pockets!
Pro Development

Fishers, IN

#18 Mar 21, 2007
Hold the property off the Market? Wow, I didn't know you could do that to someone elses ground.
CLOP

Indianapolis, IN

#19 Mar 21, 2007
Very disappointed that the article did not reference the opportunity to preserve this property as a park. Here is 70 acres that could connect with the tow path, IMA's Art Park, the International School, Butler and eventually the Cultural Trail leading to downtown. Here is an opportunity to preserve land in the middle of our city - an opportunity for all of us to enjoy nature and wildlife and learn about our environment. What happened to that side of the story?
neighbor

Fishers, IN

#20 Mar 21, 2007
You should look at the plan. You have described what the developer is doing. It looks like a good plan.
Robert Anderson wrote:
The Crown Hill property is special and a delight to the eyes. The strip mall is a "no" in that residential neighborhood.
The developers might study some of the inbuilding that has taken place on some of the DuPont family lands outside Wilmington, Delaware. Applecroft was put on inbuilt land on a DuPont family estate. It was built with environmental sensitivity and each home fits the contours of the land with minimal disturbance to woodland, trees, etc. It was not a typical "subdivision" with money as the goal.
If the cemetary built fewer, but more prestigious and "green" perhaps the bottom line could be maintained. The resulting homes would be in demand because of the statement they make and the quality of life in a natural setting.
Dr. Robert Charles Anderson
Lawrence
Kablammy

United States

#21 Mar 21, 2007
This is a great suggestion but unfortunately as with most developers Mann wants to develop this property on the cheap. Brenwick was looking at something more exclusive but ultimately chose to dump the project using wetlands as an excuse but I bet the true reason is that they felt they would not be able to generate enough profit to justify going through with the project. Housing sales are down and foreclosure rates are skyrocketing (especially in high density subdivisions such as the one they are proposing) so why add more homes now? The answer: several people at Crown Hill and Mann properties stand to make alot of money if this deal goes through. I really hope the council looks at what is the greater good for that community over the next 50 years because I bet it will not be another strip mall or subdivision.
Robert Anderson wrote:
The Crown Hill property is special and a delight to the eyes. The strip mall is a "no" in that residential neighborhood.
The developers might study some of the inbuilding that has taken place on some of the DuPont family lands outside Wilmington, Delaware. Applecroft was put on inbuilt land on a DuPont family estate. It was built with environmental sensitivity and each home fits the contours of the land with minimal disturbance to woodland, trees, etc. It was not a typical "subdivision" with money as the goal.
If the cemetary built fewer, but more prestigious and "green" perhaps the bottom line could be maintained. The resulting homes would be in demand because of the statement they make and the quality of life in a natural setting.
Dr. Robert Charles Anderson
Lawrence
taxpayers

Indianapolis, IN

#22 Mar 21, 2007
Plz put taxpayers there instead of global warming trees. Bartie Bart needs tax dollars for street lights. Algore is fixing global warning with carbon offsets. Build the houses!

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