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#84 Oct 25, 2006
Folks, lets concentrate on the real issues. So ending the MLK name at a certian point isn't respectful to Dr. King? Well why stop at 96th St? Perhaps 421 up to MI should be renamed MLK. Where do you draw the line? Worrying about this takes everyone's time away to real meaningful things that bridge the racial gap in this country.
#85 Oct 25, 2006
"Where the white ladies at?"
- Dr. Martin Luther King, 1962
#86 Oct 25, 2006
I apologize fo my outburstesses. I'm just tryin to come to grips with my homosexuality and I be a little stressed out rights now.
#87 Oct 25, 2006
Not even...the stadium will generate revenue for the city and state so from an economic standpoint it proves to be an investment. As far as buying all of these new street signs and changing of addresses, I can't visualize any return on that investment. I do love the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. but I don't think that the legacy involves spending money naming miles of road after himself.
#88 Oct 25, 2006
#89 Oct 26, 2006
Here's a link if you're AGAINST the name change.
#90 Oct 26, 2006
What a stupid idea. If they're so concerned about MLK being confined to a bad area, why don't they put some of that effort into improving that area??
#91 Oct 26, 2006
Whoa, you have the wrong perception of me. Oh well - form whatever view of me that you wish.
I may be lilly white or darker than the darkest night.
I may speak a language of our Kings or speak with hands that silence brings.
I may be a male with roots to sew or a woman who considers herself "in the know"
I may be tall and fit to run or short and squat or lacking fun.
I may be poor and living in the streets or I may have riches with no friends to greet.
I may be religous and bless you as you sneeze or perhaps I am anthiest and no prayers to my knees.
I may be frightened of this crazy world or I may be brave for a simple girl.
I may be talented and have a literary mind or I may be challenged, mute, deaf or blind.
I may be anyone beyond this screen. Do not take these words beyond what they mean.
I exist as more than Times New Roman text. But for you to see that, I do not expect.
You mold my views and others too to match the views that are held by you.
We're different colors, backgrounds and stories. Some have silver spoons while others, nothing but worries.
Renaming a street...a name doesn't dress up who we are. Doesn't bring peace, doesn't heal any scar.
"What's in a name" Juliet once did ask while on her balcony and in love, she did bask.
I may be anyone but I'm not who you think you view. I'm just a simple person - just as simple as you.
I hold no hate over centuries ago. I wasn't on that stage, I wasn't in that show.
I've not repeated what the forefathers have done. We've created equal rights to right the wrong.
Reparations paid out and apologies sent coast to coast. Why play Ouija with Memory's ghost?
What answers are we seeking? What's the future finish line? When will we cease to be foolish and see we're out of time.
Violence off the charts this year - comitted by colors of all kind. I'm afraid of everyone - fear is colorblind.
Hamilton Avenue the sight of a grisley scene and the couple in Kentucky who murdered for a baby.
Drive bys in Indy and break-ins in suburbia. Crime crosses all borders and fuels its own phobia.
Good deeds are done every day - but the news will never show. You'll only hear of murder and promises riding incognito.
So walk the streets if you feel safe and unlock that car door. In every neighborhood, I'll keep locks on for Man in not human anymore...
Perhaps, one day, we'll see past hate and see past needs and want. And no reason to rob, beg, steal nor borrow and finally Memory's ghost shall cease it haunt.
İOctober 26th, 2006 LSM "C.P."
#92 Oct 26, 2006
I do vote in Indiana, thanks.
And by the way, I would be willing to bet that I know more about our city's history than you. I've made the point over and over that native Hoosiers are getting the short shrift at the expense of people like MLK, who have no connection to the city whatsover.
I think that it is a tragedy that our city's greatest native sons--people like Booth Tarkington, James Whitcomb Riley (though not technically native to Indy--born in Greenfield--he lived here most of his life; we'll count him), or Kurt Vonnegut, Jr., are forgotten footnotes to most people in this city. Likewise, other native Hoosiers--like Eugene Debs or Ernie Pyle--are also left behind in the dustbin of history while folks who have given little or nothing to our city continue to be honored.
You want a history debate? Fine--let's compare MLK's direct contributions to the city of Indianapolis versus those of Booth Tarkington or James Whitcomb Riley, both of whom are street-less.
#93 Oct 26, 2006
^^Those two didnt do shit for Indianapolis. Besides, they each have entire schools named after them, IPS 43 and 92.
#95 Oct 27, 2006
And the school has what to do with the fact that these gentlemen are streeless?
More importantly, are you serious? Or do you think people that do something as lowly as write for a living can't contribute to society? Two of the greatest authors that the United States has ever produced--both natives and life-long residents of the Indianapolis area, each of whom wrote countless works about Indiana, including very relevant social commentary, and your response is that they "didn't do [crap] for the Indianapolis."
Brilliantly reasoned. While I understand that people of your ilk are accustomed to spending their free time in such places like bowling alleys, you should be aware that there is a society beyond your world of vulgarity and crassness.
In this society, of which I understand you have no comprehension, people like authors and artists, often acting as social commentators, have tremendous influence on the world as a whole, even creeping--dare I say--into the cosmopolitan reaches of your neighborhood bowling alley or the cozy seats of the Working Man's Friend.
I think it is a sad commentary that there are people, such as yourself, "Bob," who presumably have spent some time in Indianapolis, that live entirely oblivious to the fact that our city and state has produced a not insignificant number of the greatest minds of the past two centuries.
Trivial, you say! Yes, of course; you're right. Let's continue, as a city, to pay tribute to a man, so far as I am aware, who never even set foot in Indianapolis.
#96 Oct 27, 2006
^^You, sir, are an idiot for not recognizing sarcasm. Calm the fock down.
#97 Oct 28, 2006
Renaming the street is a very fitting way to Honor a man who stood for mankind and the will of God.
#98 Nov 5, 2006
The March to the Long View
Upon reading the editorial (Let's take long view of street of dreams, 10/26/06) this morning, I was astounded that the Star (who you keep talking about being more responsive to the community and educating your readership on all sides of issues) editorialized that the proposed name change of Michigan Road to MLK Street is a GREAT idea and stating with certainty that "No great American legacy will be erased by retiring 'Michigan Road' to the archives." Did you contact Historic Landmarks Foundations and research its history? Did you contact the local Michigan Road Historic Committee and get their view? These people who have lived here for half a century (plus) and have dedicated much of their lives to restoring 100 year old (plus) homes and documenting the history of Michigan Road. Did you contact the community group that represents the area's residents? Did you contact the National Park Service to inquire of the status of Michigan Road as a stop along the Underground Railroad? You certainly polled numerous businesses, such as Michigan Road Animal Hospital, or Michigan Road Liquors (I suppose MLK Liquors is acceptable)? I'm sure you contacted Councilor Mansfield to inquire about her proposal to REALLY make a statement about MLK and respect all stakeholders (even sounds like Dr. King). Did you consider the feelings of now 80 year old plus community leader Hal Kunz (suffering with Parkinson's, who led this effort to preserve our local history 20 years ago), how he feels about the Star supporting Glen Howard as "right" -- even tho he can't accept the community's wishes and is an ELECTED OFFICIAL (good lesson for our kids). A compromise is just that... everyone's not completely happy.
I don't think Dr. King would want anything to do with this arrogant "end run" around the community. I was a kid with my mom (and CNN's Jeff Greenfield, then cousin through marriage) when I watched Bobby Kennedy announce Dr. King's death. I was deeply impacted when I watched The March on Washington on TV as a kid. Dr. King is a personal hero of mine -- I share his dream. He would want to preserve the local history and would embrace Councilor Mansfield's broader proposal to honor him through a win-win situation that brought people together rather then wedge them apart. The Star bought right in! This is representative of what makes our City great? The leading paper dismisses dialog and the stakeholders most impacted... oh, but you did mention "building an inclusive future." I suppose that means the Star's Editorial Board will rush to support the proposed Crown Hill development over the legitimate concerns of neighboring communities that have (in C4's case) spent almost a decade working to revitalize retail on Michigan Road between 60th & 56th Streets (hey, we're finally getting a Starbucks). Others have environmental, drainage, density and quality of life issues.
No, our concerns are of little value. Our history, homes, businesses and values that comprise the quality of our lives are not "in the right place." I suppose that... "municipal and state leaders should join the march." The march down the "street of dreams" -- right over the common citizens of Indianapolis. I guess it's the "long view."
Is it possible that you would retract this editorial and support dialog and common ground, just like Dr. King would advise? I doubt it!
#99 Nov 5, 2006
why not call it "Malcom X" street it suites the city better for its violent acts.
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